
Critics say President Trump's second-term pardons have a price tag. The pardon is the one presidential power that needs nobody's permission. No court reviews it, and Congress can't limit it. This week, Brendan Fischer of the Campaign Legal Center sorts Trump's pardons into three categories: reward pardons for donors and supporters who broke the law on his behalf, corrupt pardons for officials who abused their office and stayed loyal, and brokered pardons bought through lobbyists and political fixers. From the January 6th clemency to crypto billionaire Changpeng Zhao and banker Julio Herrera Velutini, he walks through who got pardoned and what they gave. Constitutional law professor Brian Kalt explains why the framers gave the president this power, what they expected to check its abuse, and why that check hasn't held.
Featuring:
Brendan Fischer, Director of Strategic Investigations, Campaign Legal Center; Brian Kalt, Professor of Law, Michigan State University
Archival audio:
Donald Trump, President of the United States; Becca Balint, U.S. Representative (D-Vt.); Don Beyer, U.S. Representative (D-Va.); Jamie Raskin, U.S. Representative (D-Md.); Merrick Garland, former U.S. Attorney General; Michele Fiore, former Las Vegas City Council member and Nevada justice of the peace
Credits:
* Host: Casey J. Adler
* Executive Producer and Editor: Ace Estwick
* Staff Producer: Dan Pavlish
Music:
* Pixabay
Learn More:
* https://makingcontactradio.org/2025/03/the-supreme-court-under-trump/
* https://campaignlegal.org/cases-actions/abuse-presidential-pardon-power
* https://campaignlegal.org/document/campaign-legal-centers-proposed-solutions-corruption-presidential-pardon-power
* https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/BILLS-119s5212is
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