Coming Out After Divorce with Zoe Lister-Jones

Growing up in a Persian family presents unique challenges around cultural identity and acceptance. Mal's friend Mahtub shares her experience of feeling like an outsider growing up with a single mom in Ohio, not knowing who her father is, and struggling to come out. She reflects on her understanding of sexuality and how the Iranian women's movement affected her coming out journey.  ⁠Follow our guest ⁠@persianlikethepup⁠, follow the channel ⁠@madeitout⁠ and follow Mal @malglowenke Check out our new show, Out For A Drive, and please remember to subscribe, engage, like, comment, show us some love babyyyy! ⁠ 👉 Subscribe, like & comment to support queer content! For all other inquiries, please email ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, Mal sits down with exotic dancer and ASL interpreter, Caroline Blaike, to discuss her work in nightlife and the complexities of queerness in the industry. The two discuss the concept of "whorephobia" and how they strip the shame out of sex work and its intersection with feminism. Follow our guest @the.blaike, follow the podcast @madeitout and follow Mal @malglowenke Thanks to this episode’s sponsor! -Paired: Head to ⁠https://www.paired.com/MADE⁠ and download the #1 app for couples to start maintaining your lasting love today. 👉 Subscribe, like & comment to support queer content! Check out our new show, Out For A Drive, and please remember to subscribe, engage, like, comment, show us some love babyyyy! ⁠⁠https://youtu.be/Kk8c-SYuxpI?si=VU0CV9CTisXB4dro⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, Mal sits down with Survivor legend and recent author Parvati Shallow. We dive into how being born into a commune made her “good at suffering”  and how it became her secret weapon in the game of Survivor. Parvati also opens up about her journey of coming out - the fears, freedom, and the joy of choosing authenticity. It’s a conversation about resilience and learning to thrive in the spaces that once tried to confine you. ⁠Follow the guest ⁠⁠@parvatishallow,⁠⁠ follow the channel @madeitout and follow Mal @malglowenke Order Parvati's book: https://parvatishallowbook.com Thanks to this episode’s sponsors! -Mint Mobile: Get our new customer offer and a 3-month Unlimited wireless plan for just $15 a month at https://mintmobile.com/made   -Paired: Head to https://www.paired.com/MADE and download the #1 app for couples to start maintaining your lasting love today. 👉 Subscribe, like & comment to support queer content! Check out our new show, Out For A Drive, and please remember to subscribe, engage, like, comment, show us some love babyyyy! ⁠⁠https://youtu.be/Kk8c-SYuxpI?si=VU0CV9CTisXB4dro⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Musician Betty Who discusses her experiences of being a bisexual woman married to a cis straight man. Betty opens up about facing biphobia, gender expression, and maintaining her queer identity within a heteronormative relationship. The discussion delves into her upbringing in Australia, navigating her sexuality, and the importance of allowing oneself to grow and change. Settle in for a heartfelt and topical conversation that explores love, acceptance, and identity. Thanks to this episode’s sponsor! -Mint Mobile: Get our new customer offer and a 3-month Unlimited wireless plan for just $15 a month at https://mintmobile.com/made   ⁠Follow the guest @bettywho, follow the show @madeitout and follow Mal @malglowenke 👉 Subscribe, like & comment to support queer content! Check out our new show, Out For A Drive, and please remember to subscribe, engage, like, comment, show us some love babyyyy! ⁠⁠https://youtu.be/Kk8c-SYuxpI?si=VU0CV9CTisXB4dro⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Actor, writer & director Ashly Burch (Horizon series, Life Is Strange, Tiny Tina, Mythic Quest) joins Mal to chat about mental health. Ashly shares her mental health journey with OCD and anxiety, reflecting on childhood experiences and coping mechanisms like video games. The two discusses the importance of addressing personal issues, the role of joy, and the impact of relationships.  Watch "I'm Happy You're Here" at: ⁠https://youtu.be/h5SavjMFRLg?feature=shared ⁠Follow our guest @ashlyburch, follow the show @madeitout and follow Mal @malglowenke 👉 Subscribe, like & comment to support queer content! Check out our new show, Out For A Drive, and please remember to subscribe, engage, like, comment, show us some love babyyyy! ⁠⁠https://youtu.be/Kk8c-SYuxpI?si=VU0CV9CTisXB4dro⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Actor, Writer and Director Zoe Lister-Jones (New Girl, Life In Pieces, Whitney) joins Mal on the couch this week to share her coming out story - from growing up in Brooklyn with two artist parents, to getting married in her early 20's, exploring polyamory and coming out as queer during COVID.  Follow our guest @zoelisterjones, follow Made It Out Media @madeitout and follow Mal @malglowenke 👉 Subscribe, like & comment to support queer content! Check out our new show, Out For A Drive, and please remember to subscribe, engage, like, comment, show us some love babyyyy! ⁠https://youtu.be/0T_a9veJZHA?si=G_u7EJoABSgLlPpKv For all other inquiries, please email ⁠⁠[email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Musician and Content Creator Sarah Lugor joins Mal to chat about queer dating and discuss Hinge's 2025 LGBTQIA+ D.A.T.E. Report findings. The two discuss the growing wave of label fatigue that today's daters feel and how gen-z is pushing back on defining their sexuality in fixed terms. #HingePartner Check out Hinge’s 2025 LGBTQIA+ D.A.T.E. Report for tips, real stories, and advice on exploring love beyond labels: https://hinge.co/newsroom/2025-LGBTQ-... Follow our guest @sarahlugor, follow the show @madeitout and follow Mal @malglowenke Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Comedians and podcast hosts Two Dykes And A Mic join Mal for a very fun episode about QUEER FRIENDSHIPS!!!! The good, the bad and the sex!!! Watch Two Dykes and a Mic:  https://open.spotify.com/show/2C6AVB2V8OL35sH6XtbIpk?si=eff668f2ed1a4869 Follow our guests @twodykesandamic, @McKGoodwin and @rachelscanloncomedy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Pitt's Ayesha Harris joins Mal this week to discuss her upbringing, coming out, and opening a barbershop run entirely by queer women in Los Angeles. The conversation explores some of the separation between white and black queer communities and how these can be brought together. Follow Ayesha @ayesharaasheed, follow Made It Out @madeitout and follow Mal @malglowenke 👉 Subscribe, like & comment to support queer content! Check out our new show, Out For A Drive, and please remember to subscribe, engage, like, comment, show us some love babyyyy! ⁠https://youtu.be/Kk8c-SYuxpI?si=VU0CV9CTisXB4dro⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode is a hoot and a half!!! Tune in for Mal and Syd pre-brunch conversation centered around bisexuality and weeeeeirdly close friendships we all had with our girl friends growing up. Were they a little gay? You tell us! (yes).  Follow Syd @sydrose___ and check out her podcast, Are We Flirting? here: https://open.spotify.com/show/4jmwsHdeU2D1W1pPhfUX1C Follow Made It Out Media @madeitout and follow Mal @malglowenke Check out our new show, Out For A Drive, and please remember to subscribe, engage, like, comment, show us some love babyyyy! https://youtu.be/Kk8c-SYuxpI?si=VU0CV9CTisXB4dro Season 1 guests include: Olivia Tiedemann, Robby Hoffman, Victoria Paris, Jonica Booth, and many more! For all other inquiries, please email ⁠⁠[email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices