Hosts CJ and Reimy talk with singer-songwriter Debra Fotheringham about building emotional equity in relationships, giving honest feedback with care, and practicing vulnerability. Debra shares her family’s history with mental health, her own bouts of depression, and how therapy helped her accept life’s “ebb and flow” rather than seeing happiness as a constant default. She performs “Ebb and Flow” live, discusses her love of poetry and folk influences through her band The Lower Lights, and explains how a sincere compliment from a junior high friend gave her the confidence to sing publicly. The episode also features “Blue West,” a love letter to Utah inspired by time living in Ireland and Vermont, and “Protagonist,” about not assuming you’re the main character in someone else’s life, all from her album Valley of Annihilation.
00:00 Feedback And Trust
34:38 Love Sandwich Communication
35:29 Mental Health And Therapy
37:48 Live Ebb And Flow
42:56 Poetry And Songwriting
46:14 Finding Her Voice
49:09 Blue West And Utah
55:58 Defining Success As An Artist
59:06 Why Music Keeps Calling
01:00:48 Final Song Protagonist
01:06:20 Wrap Up And Where To Listen
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