Sisterhood and creativity continued…

In this episode of It Doesn't Work That Way, hosts Kalisha Zachery and Kachelle Zachery examine the complicated intersection of ambition, representation, and integrity through the lens of Netflix's America's Next Top Model documentary. What begins as a conversation about a nostalgic television phenomenon quickly becomes something much deeper: a discussion about the hidden costs of chasing opportunity in systems that were never fully designed for everyone's well-being. The documentary reveals uncomfortable contradictions—from a Black contestant being encouraged to close the gap in her teeth while a white contestant's gap was celebrated as editorial and high fashion—to broader questions about what happens when leaders from underrepresented communities inherit institutions built on unequal standards. When are you truly disrupting a system, and when are you slowly conforming to it just to survive? It Doesn’t Work That Way – This podcast is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”⁠⁠ ⁠⁠ The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! ⁠⁠WATCH NOW HERE!⁠⁠ Join us on Patreon! A unique creative hub curated by tastemakers in culture, entertainment, literature, art, conversations and beyond. Join the WATZS Dome for exclusive behind the scenes content. ⁠SUBSCRIBE HERE⁠ Check out the WATZS Podcast Network ⁠HERE ⁠and drop us a line. Follow us on socials:  ⁠@thewatzspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of It Doesn't Work That Way, hosts Kalisha Zachery and Kachelle Zachery examine one of the most debated forces in the creative industries: gatekeeping. Gatekeeping is often presented as a way to protect standards, preserve quality, and safeguard culture. But what happens when protection becomes restriction? Where is the line between thoughtful curation and limiting access to opportunity? Drawing from their experiences as independent filmmakers, producers, and entrepreneurs, Kalisha and Kachelle explore the motivations that often drive gatekeeping—from maintaining control over information and access to preserving exclusivity, and, at times, protecting status in an evolving industry. It Doesn’t Work That Way – This podcast is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”⁠⁠ ⁠⁠ The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! ⁠⁠WATCH NOW HERE!⁠⁠ Join us on Patreon! A unique creative hub curated by tastemakers in culture, entertainment, literature, art, conversations and beyond. Join the WATZS Dome for exclusive behind the scenes content. ⁠SUBSCRIBE HERE⁠ Check out the WATZS Podcast Network ⁠HERE ⁠and drop us a line. Follow us on socials:  ⁠@thewatzspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this new episode Kalisha Zachery and Kachelle Zachery are diving into a reality many independent creatives know all too well: the net-60 payout. Whether you’ve worked on an indie film, freelance production, or small creative project, you’ve likely encountered the experience of being paid long after the work is complete. In this episode, we unpack why net-60 payment structures exist, how delayed payouts impact creatives trying to sustain themselves, and the difficult balance between passion, professionalism, and cash flow. From independent productions to major companies, we explore the financial realities of creative labor and ask an important question: How do you stay grounded when the work moves faster than the payment? It Doesn’t Work That Way – This podcast is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”⁠⁠ ⁠⁠ The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! ⁠⁠WATCH NOW HERE!⁠⁠ Join us on Patreon! A unique creative hub curated by tastemakers in culture, entertainment, literature, art, conversations and beyond. Join the WATZS Dome for exclusive behind the scenes content. ⁠SUBSCRIBE HERE⁠ Check out the WATZS Podcast Network ⁠HERE ⁠and drop us a line. Follow us on socials:  ⁠@thewatzspod⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Part 2, the conversation goes deeper as we challenge the idea of whether family is automatically meant to be your built-in support system—or if purpose sometimes requires navigating misunderstanding, distance, or unexpected paths to fulfillment. Through honest reflections on partnership, creativity, and calling, Yvonne and Yolanda share what it means to build individually and collectively while protecting vision, identity, and alignment. This episode is a thoughtful exploration of ambition, sisterhood, and the reality that support doesn’t always look the way we expect—but purpose remains the assignment. It Doesn’t Work That Way – This podcast is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”⁠ ⁠ The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! ⁠WATCH NOW HERE!⁠ Join us on Patreon! A unique creative hub curated by tastemakers in culture, entertainment, literature, art, conversations and beyond. Join the WATZS Dome for exclusive behind the scenes content. SUBSCRIBE HERE Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Follow us on socials:  @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the latest episode of "It Doesn't Work That Way," hosts Kalisha Zachery and Kachelle Zachery are diving into the powerful intersection of passion and assignment—what it truly means for women to discern their calling, honor their purpose, and keep building even when the spaces around them don’t always offer the support they need. Joined by special guests Yvonne Wilson, creator of YVONNE4EYES eye chart maker, stationery, and sketch artistry, alongside her sister Yolanda Wilson, interior designer and creative force behind 2AFROBLUE, this conversation explores sisterhood, vision, entrepreneurship, and the courage it takes to pursue purpose with intention. Together, we begin unpacking a critical question: Does having a strong support system automatically make the journey easier? It Doesn’t Work That Way – This podcast is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”⁠ ⁠ The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! ⁠WATCH NOW HERE!⁠ Join us on Patreon! A unique creative hub curated by tastemakers in culture, entertainment, literature, art, conversations and beyond. Join the WATZS Dome for exclusive behind the scenes content. SUBSCRIBE HERE Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Follow us on socials:  @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the latest episode of "It Doesn't Work That Way," hosts Kalisha Zachery and Kachelle Zachery explore TEN activities you can enjoy this holiday season without picking up your phone. Indeed… they emphasized it. Without. The. Phone.” The Zachery sisters aim to foster a more intentional approach this holiday by promoting greater real-world interactions, reduced doom scrolling, and an increased focus on spending quality time with your loved ones. It Doesn’t Work That Way – This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.” WATCH NOW The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Join us on Patreon! A unique creative hub curated by tastemakers in film, literature, art, podcast and beyond. Join the WATZS Dome for exclusive behind the scenes content. SUBSCRIBE HERE Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Head over to our YouTube and subscribe HERE. Follow us on socials @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the most recent episode of "It Doesn't Work That Way," hosts Kalisha Zachery and Kachelle Zachery delve into fraud, shortcuts, the “Hollywood Hustle” documentary from Prime Video, the scheme-to-success pipeline, AND why doing things the right way still wins. If you’ve ever looked at somebody who seems ten steps ahead and thought, Dang... Am I behind? — this episode is for you.  It Doesn’t Work That Way – This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.” WATCH NOW The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Join us on Patreon! A unique creative hub curated by tastemakers in film, literature, art, podcast and beyond. Join the WATZS Dome for exclusive behind the scenes content. SUBSCRIBE HERE Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Head over to our YouTube and subscribe HERE. Follow us on socials @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the most recent installment of "It Doesn't Work That Way," hosts Kalisha Zachery and Kachelle Zachery welcome special guest Kimbia Robbins to explore the dynamics of power within the entertainment and fashion industries, as well as across any industry USA if we're being truthful. The trio offers their frank opinions on figures such as Sean Combs, Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, and the former CEO Mike Jeffries of Abercrombie & Fitch, among others. They engage in a thorough discussion about values, understanding one's desires, exactly what you want to gain for every opportunity, and ensuring the safeguarding of personal safety, talents, and gifts. It Doesn’t Work That Way – This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.” WATCH NOW The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Be sure to grab a copy of “The Word of God” HERE Join us on Patreon! A unique creative hub curated by tastemakers in film, literature, art, podcast and beyond. Join the WATZS Dome for exclusive behind the scenes content. SUBSCRIBE HERE Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Head over to our YouTube and subscribe HERE. Follow us on socials @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this special episode of "It Doesn't Work That Way," hosts Kalisha Zachery and Kachelle Zachery welcome special guest God Shammgod as they explore his latest book, “The Word of God.” They discuss why vision, intention, and purpose are some of the most challenging objectives to achieve but also among the most rewarding. The team engages in a lively conversation with Shammgod over basketball, film and more during this special episode!  It Doesn’t Work That Way – This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.” WATCH NOW The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Be sure to grab a copy of “The Word of God” HERE Join us on Patreon! A unique creative hub curated by tastemakers in film, literature, art, podcast and beyond. Join the WATZS Dome for exclusive behind the scenes content. SUBSCRIBE HERE Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Head over to our YouTube and subscribe HERE. Follow us on socials @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the latest episode of "It Doesn't Work That Way," Kalisha Zachery and Kachelle Zachery is joined by special guest Kimbia Robbins as they investigate how originality acts as a powerful antidote — and why they think that is?  They are talking about “Individual authenticity, how important is it, and when did you recognize its importance?” Originality empowers individuals to become agents of change rather than passive observers, giving them the confidence to act on values and contribute to a more just and positive society. It Doesn’t Work That Way – This show is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.” WATCH NOW The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! Join me on Patreon! A unique creative hub curated by tastemakers in film, literature, art, podcast and beyond. Join the WATZS Dome for exclusive behind the scenes content. SUBSCRIBE HERE Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line. Head over to our YouTube and subscribe HERE. Follow us on socials @thewatzspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices