How Executives and HR Leaders Can Adapt to Change, with Jim Frawley

In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Loren Greiff about how to deal with being told you’re overqualified and how to flip the conversation. Loren Greiff is the founder of PortfolioRocket, a career consultancy dedicated to helping executives over 40 break free from outdated job search systems and land roles that match their worth. After being PIP’d (to be placed on a Performance Improvement Plan) at 54 for being “too enthusiastic” at one of the world’s top executive search firms, she saw firsthand how the traditional system marginalizes experienced talent. Instead of shrinking, she launched a mission to flip the script—and a business that’s now helped over 430 leaders land faster and earn more by doing it differently, not traditionally. Her work unapologetically challenges age bias, toxic hiring practices, and the myth of "playing it safe." At PortfolioRocket, she helps VP-level and above executives reignite their value, stand out in crowded markets, and reclaim control of their careers. In addition to having an active LinkedIn community of followers, and a seat on Fast Company’s Executive Board, Loren is the host of the Top 100 Ranking podcast, Career Blast in a Half, where listeners get simple, powerful and actionable career fuel to keep their success track, no matter where they are in their. Loren has been featured in online publications such as Forbes and Business Insider as well as named Top Job Search Strategy Voice and listed as a Top Career Coach by JobScan, three years running. Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!

In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Lisa M. Sanchez about how leaders can positively impact employee experience. Lisa M. Sanchez is an author, life coach, and the vice president for Employee Experience and Engagement (HR) at ArtCenter College of Design in Pasadena, CA. She leads a team dedicated to enriching the experiences and engagement for faculty and staff. Critical to this work is Sanchez’s direct work in ABIDE (or access, belonging, inclusion, diversity, and equity) and organizational culture. Born and raised in Los Angeles, CA, Sanchez received her bachelor’s degree in Communication Studies from California State University, Northridge, a master’s degree in Organizational Management from the University of Phoenix, and is a Certified Professional Life Coach. Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!

In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Sarah Smart and Sofia Whelan about how AI and automation are reshaping the way companies think about talent. Sarah Smart has over 20 years of leadership experience in Talent Acquisition at companies like Hilton Worldwide, Accenture, and JPMorgan Chase. She is also the co-founder of HorizonHuman. During her career, Sarah has led global teams in the adoption of Generative AI-enabled technologies, new HCMS, and new processes that transform and align organizations to the new expectations in HR. In her most recent role, Sarah led the Product Organization for Talent Acquisition at JPMorgan Chase as well as leading the Chase Recruiting Organization. Sarah is also a founding member of the Human Centric AI Council, launched in 2025, shaping what human-centric AI looks like in HR. Sofia Whelan brings over 16 years of global HR transformation experience. She has a strong passion and deep focus on translating HR trends into programs that drive business value. During her time at Deloitte as a Human Capital consultant, she excelled at providing advice and implementation services related to HR Technology Strategy, Operating Models/ Org Design and Vendor Selections, as well as Transformation Execution and Change Management for a wide range of companies, including Google, Disney, Ab- Inbev, Pfizer and more. Prior to starting HorizonHuman Sofia led the design and delivery of a Product Operating Model and Skills Strategy at JPMorgan Chase.  Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!

In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Jim Frawley about how executives and HR leaders can adapt to change. Jim Frawley is an expert in change management and organizational development, and the founder of the Bellwether Method. Jim is a renowned keynote speaker, the host of Jim's Take the podcast, a big-time reader, small-time triathlete, and full-time father and husband. Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!

In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Christian Muntean about his new book, "Train to Lead."  Christian Muntean has helped hundreds of businesses rapidly grow, increase profitability, and expand impact. He primarily works with entrepreneurial business leaders who are scaling their businesses or preparing for exit or succession. He partners with owners, boards, and executive teams as they make game-changing decisions. Christian is the author of three popular books, with the most recent being Train to Lead. He is a frequent guest on podcasts and has been a contributor to Forbes.com. Christian lives in Anchorage, Alaska with his wife and three active children. He enjoys woodworking and practices Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. https://www.linkedin.com/in/christianmuntean/  Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!

In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Stella Ioannidou about the new report, AI-First Hiring Is the New TA Reality. Stella Loannidou is the Senior Director of Research and Global Workforce Intelligence Project leader at The Josh Bersin Company. In this role, she conducts empirical research on a variety of topics related to the skills economy, talent intelligence, and HCM solutions. Stella has almost 20 years of experience across several industries, including banking. Prior to joining The Josh Bersin Company, Stella was the HR transformation leader for Deloitte, where she led large-scale HCM implementations and designed frameworks for talent acquisition and performance management for the public sector. Stella holds master’s degrees in engineering, information systems management, business administration, and lifelong learning. She is a certified project manager, change management practitioner, lean six sigma green belt, and ICAgile HR professional.    https://joshbersin.com/talent-acquisition-revolution/   Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!

In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Rich Braden and Dr. Tessa Forshaw about their new book, Be Innovation-ish. Rich Braden is the founder of People Rocket LLC, a strategic innovation firm based in San Francisco. With over 15 years of academic experience, Rich is a recognized thought leader in design thinking, leadership, and innovation. He is a design educator teaching at renowned institutions including Harvard University, Stanford University, Aalto University, and London Business School, helping shape future leaders. As CEO of People Rocket, he works with clients such as Airbnb, Google, the United Nations, Microsoft, Coca-Cola, Starbucks, and the Red Cross to drive strategic innovation and responsible AI solutions. Rich holds degrees in Computer and Electrical Engineering from Purdue University and resides in the San Francisco Bay Area. As a co-founder of the Next Level Lab at Harvard University, Tessa specializes in using cognitive science to explore how people best work, learn, and innovate. She draws upon her academic research as a cognitive scientist and extensive background as a former designer at IDEO CoLAb and Accenture to turn the cognitive processes involved in design, creativity, and innovation into practical insights that can be applied in the flow of work. These insights are also the foundations of what she teaches as a design educator at Stanford University and now Harvard University. Recognized for her impactful design projects, Tessa is the recipient of multiple design awards: a Fast Company Design Award for General Excellence, two Core77 Industrial Design Magazine Design Awards, and the Australian American Chamber of Commerce Innovation Awards. Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!

In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Kyle Samuels about diversifying your talent pipeline. Kyle Samuels is the founder and CEO of Creative Talent Endeavors (CTE), a retained executive search firm known for helping organizations identify and hire the leadership talent that drives growth, transformation, and long-term value. Under Kyle’s leadership, CTE has been recognized twice on the Inc. 5000 list of fastest-growing private companies and was named the #4 fastest-growing company in Charlotte. What sets Kyle apart is a deep commitment to authenticity, candor, and alignment. Whether he’s partnering with a founder making their first executive hire or a global enterprise reshaping its leadership bench, Kyle brings a direct, empathetic, and values-driven approach to every search. His work is grounded in the belief that hiring the right leader isn’t just about a resume — it’s about long-term fit, trust, and shared purpose. Kyle is also the creator of Fairantee™, a value-based pricing search algorithm that uses data to determine the price of a search, not an arbitrary percentage like most search firms use. This makes using executive search more transparent and equitable. Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!

In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Andy Lange about the evolving role of HR leaders. Andy Lange, MBA, PMP®, SHRM-SCP, is the Senior Vice President of People at Take Command, bringing over 15 years of combined HR, executive leadership, and operational experience. Prior to his current role, Andy served as CEO for seven years and as a partner and general manager, where he led business operations, talent strategy, and organizational growth. His career blends hands-on HR leadership with executive-level insight, enabling him to build scalable people programs that align with business objectives. Andy’s practical, real-world approach to helping HR leaders elevate their strategic impact through modern benefits strategies has been shared through speaking and editorial opportunities for BenefitsPro, HRSouthwest, business.com and SHRM. Check out his new e-book here: https://www.takecommandhealth.com/hr-leader-e-book Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!

In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Ab DeWeese about collaborative AI in the workplace.  Ab DeWeese is a a serial entrepreneur, AI educator, and author of Essential AI: Your All-in-One QuickStart to Using AI in Business and the Workplace. He’s also the creator of CollabChat AI, a platform designed to help teams work with AI—and each other—to produce better, more reliable results. In this conversation, we’re diving into what HR leaders need to know about collaborative AI: how it reduces risk, strengthens decision-making, and helps people stay at the center of innovation.  Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!