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In this episode, Julia and Sofia talk to plant ecologist Sara Lil Middleton about seeing beyond the “green carpet” to understand grasses and climate change and her work to promote equality and diversity in the biological sciences. The transcript for this episode is available here: https://conservationoptimism.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Good-Natured_S02E02_Sara-Lil-Middleton.pdf
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