[Classic Episode] Erik Torenberg: Upstream of the Revolution

Find Ari and Jon:https://www.thenewatlantis.com/authors/ari-schulmanhttps://x.com/arischulmanhttps://x.com/jonaskonasMentioned in the Episode:https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/09/opinion/ivf-debate.html  https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/open-wallets-empty-heartshttps://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/who-is-the-new-atlantis-forhttps://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/the-paradox-of-conservative-bioethics https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/for-whom-shall-we-buildhttps://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/rational-magichttps://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/welcoming-our-new-robot-overlordshttps://x.com/xenocosmography/status/1843120642402767069 This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.fromthenew.world/subscribe

Find Noah Smith: https://x.com/Noahpinion From the New World Dinner:https://lu.ma/cn34w8ddMentioned in the episode: https://www.amazon.com/We-Were-Burning-Entrepreneurs-Electronic/dp/0465091180 https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/09/26/1104516/three-mile-island-microsoft/https://www.amazon.com/How-Asia-Works-Joe-Studwell/dp/0802121322 https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w29126/w29126.pdf This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.fromthenew.world/subscribe

[Interview republished in the main section so that it appears on the regular podcast feed]Find Tyler:https://marginalrevolution.com/https://x.com/tylercowenFind me:AI Meetup / SB 1047 is Over Party:https://lu.ma/sa5q2tkoAlliance for the Future: https://www.affuture.org/donate/ https://x.com/psychosortMentioned in the episode:Chuck Schumer reporthttps://www.schumer.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Roadmap_Electronic1.32pm.pdfAI Safety is dead:https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-05-21/ai-safety-is-dead-and-chuck-schumer-faces-risksPelosi on SB 1047:https://pelosi.house.gov/news/press-releases/pelosi-statement-opposition-california-senate-bill-1047SB 1047 Timeline:https://reason.com/2024/08/16/california-lawmakers-face-backlash-over-doomsday-driven-ai-billGOAT bookhttps://goatgreatesteconomistofalltime.ai/enCSIS Report on Open Source and Defense:https://www.csis.org/analysis/defense-priorities-open-source-ai-debateChange in vibes post:https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2024/07/the-changes-in-vibes-why-did-they-happen.htmlElites:https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2024/09/a-simple-theory-of-which-thinkers-support-the-elites-or-not.htmlNoah US State Capacity:The Art of Power:https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Art-of-Power/Nancy-Pelosi/9781668048047 This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.fromthenew.world/subscribe

Find Eric:https://twitter.com/eriktorenberghttps://www.turpentine.co/Mentioned in the episode:https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/digital/the-flight-93-election/ This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.fromthenew.world/subscribe

Timestamps:1:57 Interview starts / Will there be an AI monopoly?5:33 The Bitter Lesson19:30 Government AI Scaling Projects25:09 AI Agents Versus Information Theory34:25 Little Tech and PoliticsFind Martin:https://a16z.com/author/martin-casado/https://x.com/martin_casadoMentioned in the Episode:William Perry and Martin’s course at Stanford: https://web.stanford.edu/class/msande91si/slides/msande91si_course_information.pdfUS Senate AI Roadmap: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000018f-79a9-d62d-ab9f-f9af975d0000Entropy bounds in Information Theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(information_theory)Martin and Ion Stoica on Little Tech and Open Source: https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2024/07/29/keep-the-code-behind-ai-open-say-two-entrepreneurs This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.fromthenew.world/subscribe

Find Beyang:https://x.com/beyanghttps://sourcegraph.com/ This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.fromthenew.world/subscribe

Find Max:https://arenamag.com/https://x.com/mualphaxiMentioned in the episode:https://arenamag.com/2024/06/03/ai-monopolies-not-so-fast/https://arenamag.com/2024/07/31/the-tinkerers-box-of-dreams/https://arenamag.com/2024/06/05/the-dream-of-speed/https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a12149389/robert-noyce-tom-wolfe/https://www.tabletmag.com/feature/american-vulcan-palmer-luckey-anduril This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.fromthenew.world/subscribe

Isaac Simpson is a former copywriter, writer at the American Mind, and author of The Carousel newsletter.Find Isaac:https://x.com/DisgracedPropMentioned in the episode:https://americanmind.org/features/a-matter-of-taste/politics-is-not-downstream-from-culture/https://americanmind.org/features/a-matter-of-taste/https://americanmind.org/features/a-matter-of-taste/tv-is-always-progressive/https://www.amazon.com/Managerial-Revolution-What-Happening-World/dp/1839013184https://www.amazon.com/Adventures-Screen-Trade-Hollywood-Screenwriting/dp/0446391174https://savethecat.com/ This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.fromthenew.world/subscribe

Find Jeremy:https://www.amazon.com/Unprotected-Class-Anti-White-Destroying-America/dp/1684514584https://twitter.com/realJeremyCarlhttps://www.claremont.org/bio/jeremy-carl/Mentioned in the podcast: This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.fromthenew.world/subscribe

Find Keegan:https://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/profiles/keegan-mcbride/https://twitter.com/KeeganMcBAlliance for the Future:https://www.affuture.org/contact/Email me:chau [at] affuture [dot] org This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.fromthenew.world/subscribe