#65 Being Different

Catherine and Roy talk about what being different means to each of them. Catherine describes growing up in a family that stood out from others in their village, the awkward moments that can come with being different, and a story about a neighbour who asked if she was a witch. Roy shares how he stood out in mechanical contracting in Ireland and at Toastmasters, where his evaluations and quirky table topics answers made him noticeable. Catherine adds two client stories showing that being different can work as a business strategy. They invite listeners to share their own experiences in the comments. What we Discussed 0:02 Welcome and today’s question: what does being different mean to you? 0:19 Catherine on being different as a way of life, growing up in a different family, and the “are you a witch” story 3:35 Roy on standing out in business and in Toastmasters speaking 4:47 Catherine on being hired because she was different 5:32 Catherine on a client introducing her to his board, and being different as a business strategy 6:21 Question for listeners and sign off Contact Roy and Catherine 🔗 Roy Coughlan, Podfather Network 🎙️ Explore more podcasts: Find all podcasts at the PodFather Network 🌐 Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ 👥 Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ 🤝 Connected Leaders Academy: A Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members: https://connectedleaders.academy 🧠 Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ 🌟 The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts, a community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ 🛡 EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ 🌿 Health and Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #BeingDifferent #Individuality #Authenticity #PersonalGrowth #Business

Catherine and Roy talk about how you know it is time for a change. Roy describes the point where a business stops giving him energy, using his experience managing and renovating property as an example. He suggests building something new on the side if you can’t leave straight away. Catherine explains that she looks for the moment when something takes more from her than it gives, or when the people around her no longer see how she has grown. They talk about changing a situation through conversation, and about when leaving is the better choice. They ask listeners to reflect on when they last felt it was time to change. What we Discussed 0:02 Welcome and today’s question: when do you know it’s time to change? 0:24 Roy on when a business stops giving you fuel, and building something on the side 2:12 Catherine on when life stops nourishing you, being boxed in by others, and making your own path Contact Roy and Catherine 🔗 Roy Coughlan, Podfather Network 🎙️ Explore more podcasts: Find all podcasts at the PodFather Network 🌐 Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ 👥 Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ 🤝 Connected Leaders Academy: A Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members: https://connectedleaders.academy 🧠 Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ 🌟 The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts, a community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ 🛡 EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ 🌿 Health and Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #PersonalGrowth #ChangeYourLife #Transition #Authenticity #CareerChange

Catherine and Roy ask what discomfort means to each of them. Catherine shares a story about praising a manager’s tie in a workshop and how uncomfortable people can feel when they are acknowledged. She explains how she now treats discomfort as a signal that a decision is needed or that she is out of line with herself. Roy talks about the discomfort of chasing late payments and keeping promises when others don’t keep theirs. They discuss how people can let others down without meaning to, and ask listeners what discomfort means to them. What we Discussed 0:03 Welcome and today’s question: what does discomfort mean to you? 0:25 Catherine on being praised, a workshop exercise, and discomfort as a signal to act 2:55 Roy on the discomfort of chasing payment 4:02 Catherine on agreeing payment terms and handling her own discomfort 5:32 Roy’s view on how people handle promises of payment 5:58 Catherine on people who let others down without meaning to 6:50 Question for listeners and sign off Contact Roy and Catherine 🔗 Roy Coughlan, Podfather Network 🎙️ Explore more podcasts: Find all podcasts at the PodFather Network 🌐 Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ 👥 Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ 🤝 Connected Leaders Academy: A Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members: https://connectedleaders.academy 🧠 Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ 🌟 The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts, a community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ 🛡 EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ 🌿 Health and Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #Discomfort #PersonalGrowth #Boundaries #Communication #Accountability

Catherine and Roy explore the question “where do you fit in?” Roy says he has never tried to fit in and has always done what he believed was right, from refusing to follow the crowd as a teenager to finishing his work properly on site in Ireland when others stopped early. Catherine describes growing up in a family that encouraged individuality, and her lifelong need to belong. They look at the balance between being yourself and belonging to a family, community or team, and why “fitting in” can mean compromising who you are. They ask listeners where they feel they belong, where they overcompromise, and what topics they would like covered next. What we Discussed 0:02 Welcome and today’s question: where do you fit in? 0:23 Roy on doing what he believes is right rather than fitting in 1:34 Catherine on growing up encouraged to be an individual, and her need to belong 5:14 Questions for listeners and thank you for the support Contact Roy and Catherine 🔗 Roy Coughlan, Podfather Network 🎙️ Explore more podcasts: Find all podcasts at the PodFather Network 🌐 Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ 👥 Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ 🤝 Connected Leaders Academy: A Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members: https://connectedleaders.academy 🧠 Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ 🌟 The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts, a community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ 🛡 EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ 🌿 Health and Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #FittingIn #Belonging #Individuality #PersonalGrowth #Authenticity

In this episode, Roy asks Catherine who she is trying to prove herself to. Catherine says she wishes she knew. She describes a program of meditations where she traced back through her life and found people and ideals she was still trying to live up to, including her parents, her sister, her headmistress and some of her teachers. She explains that even when she knows consciously that she has nothing to prove, the programming is still there. The best she can do is notice it, give herself some slack, shake it off and move on. Roy says he holds himself accountable more than anyone else. He talks about being a good son to his mother, making sure she knows he is okay and can be proud of him, and about proving himself as a father by acting rather than talking, wanting his kids to be more successful and happier than he is. They finish by asking listeners whether they are proving themselves to others, or just chugging through life. Timestamps 0:03 — Welcome & today’s question: who are you trying to prove yourself to? 0:19 — Catherine: the people and ideals she is still living up to, and letting them go 2:14 — Roy: being a good son and a good father 3:40 — Closing thoughts and sign-off Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #ProvingYourself #SelfWorth #Family #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan

In this episode, Catherine asks Roy what he doesn’t know, and the two explore why not knowing is a theme worth embracing. Roy says the more he reads and the further down the rabbit holes he goes, the more he realises how much he didn’t know. Catherine says what she truly knows is what she has lived through herself. She explains why, when asked if she believes in energy work, she answers that she doesn’t need to believe in it because she has experienced it directly. She then covers the Dunning-Kruger effect, where people who know very little tend to feel very sure, and confidence drops to accuracy as real expertise grows. She applies it to economics, politics, health and world events, where most of us hold strong opinions on things we know little about. She describes a game from her workshops where people practise saying “I don’t know” and find it surprisingly hard. They leave listeners with questions: what are you pretending to know, what do you really know, and are you willing to own it? They also invite comments, questions and topic requests. Timestamps 0:02 — Welcome & today’s theme: not knowing 0:23 — Roy: the more I know, the more I realise I don’t know 0:52 — Catherine: lived experience vs belief, the Dunning-Kruger effect, and practising “I don’t know” Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #NotKnowing #DunningKruger #Beliefs #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan

In this episode, Roy and Catherine look at when helping helps and when it gets in the way. Catherine describes the moment of saying “please stop helping”, when someone assumes you are incapable and steps in to coach you through something you were doing your own way, sometimes as a deliberate experiment. She says we often jump in because we assume the other person does not know what they are doing, when they are doing it that way because they want to. She compares it to backseat drivers and backseat cooks. She also talks about the other side: learning to ask for help in a culture where you are expected to be self-sufficient. Roy agrees on the cooking, then shares what it means in relationships, where a man’s instinct is to jump in with solutions and the other person often just wants to be heard. He suggests simply saying what you need, whether that is to listen or to solve, because nobody can read your mind. They finish by asking listeners what comes to mind when they hear helping and hindering. Timestamps 0:02 — Welcome & today’s question: helping and hindering 0:21 — Catherine: “please stop helping”, backseat cooks and learning to ask for help 3:40 — Roy: cooking, wanting to be heard rather than fixed, and saying what you need 5:17 — Closing thoughts and sign-off Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #HelpingAndHindering #AskingForHelp #Relationships #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan

In this episode, Catherine asks Roy what he really needs, and the two explore the difference between wanting and needing. Roy shares the question he asks people when they are shopping: is it a want or a need, and do you have the money for it? He talks about how putting a dollar value next to the tasks on his list helped him focus on the work that brings in money, rather than just the things he enjoys getting done. Catherine looks at it from her coaching work, where the honest answer to “why do I need a coach?” is that you don’t, but you may want one. She separates practical needs, like worn-out towels, from needs that come from a place of lack, where we feel we are not enough until we have more money, status or approval. She reflects on a life spent following what she wanted to do rather than what she thought she needed to do, and shares how a small section on emotional needs became the theme of a whole workshop. They leave listeners with the question: what do you want, and what do you really need? Timestamps 0:02 — Welcome & today’s question: what do you really need? 0:21 — Roy: is it a want or a need, and putting a dollar next to your goals 1:40 — Catherine: needing a coach vs wanting one, needs that come from lack, and emotional needs 5:15 — Closing thoughts and sign-off Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #WantingAndNeeding #Needs #Coaching #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan

In this episode, Roy and Catherine take on the question of who gets to define you. Catherine says nobody does. She tells the story of a marketing coach who gave her good challenges but tried to tell her who she had to be to win clients, and why that never sat right. She explains how every time she looked to someone else to tell her who she is, it backfired, and the only definition that has worked is the one she finds by going inside herself, sometimes as a feeling or a colour rather than words. Roy shares a similar experience of being told how to come across to attract coaching clients, and why he refuses to do it if it is not him. He talks about parents trying to mould you, how his mother was right about more than he gave her credit for, and how he takes feedback on board without letting it define him. He is happy with who he is, but never complacent, and is always working to be a better version of himself. They agree you can listen to other people’s points of view without having to conform to them, and ask listeners to share their own answer. Timestamps 0:02 — Welcome & today’s question: who gets to define you? 0:18 — Catherine: the coach who tried to define her, and defining yourself from the inside 2:45 — Roy: being told how to come across, his mother’s influence, and always improving 4:28 — Listening to others without conforming 4:34 — Closing thoughts and sign-off Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #WhoDefinesYou #Identity #SelfDefinition #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan

In this episode, Catherine and Roy ask what it means to be seen, and why it takes courage. Roy admits he never wanted to be seen. He ran big jobs in Ireland and was strong at negotiating and leading teams, but he was the one at the back of the class and the back of the meeting. He explains what changed when he wanted to get his message out and make the world a better place: nobody follows you if you are hiding at the back. He also talks about not letting attacks come in. Catherine describes growing up wanting to be expressive while being vulnerable to being mocked, and how she became very visible at school as a way to get through it. She says her visibility online, in her coaching business, comes down to the goal. If the goal is to enjoy life, be truthful and put out something helpful, the fear of being seen reduces. If the goal is to impress and win approval, that is where fear and exhaustion come in. They close by asking listeners what being seen means to them, what their goal is, and what matters most to them about it. Timestamps 0:02 — Welcome & today’s question: what does it mean to be seen? 0:26 — Roy: the guy at the back, and why he chose to stand out 1:31 — Catherine: being mocked as a child, visibility online, and why the goal matters 5:00 — Sign-off Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #CourageToBeSeen #Visibility #Authenticity #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan