Richard Allen's Confession Got the Cause of Death Wrong. Indiana Doesn't Care

Abby Williams was thirteen. Libby German was fourteen. They were best friends who went to a bridge on a February afternoon in 2017 and never came home. Their families have been living inside this nightmare for over nine years.Richard Allen was convicted. He’s serving a hundred and thirty years. And his defense team just told the Indiana Court of Appeals that the jury only heard half the story.Your questions about this case are the kind that keep people awake. You’re asking what it means that Allen confessed to shooting girls who were never shot. You’re asking why the jury heard a psychologist call his confessions logical but never heard the audio of what his attorneys describe as confused screaming in solitary. You’re asking why investigators allegedly recorded over an interview with a potential suspect and never took his weapon.You’re asking about Kegan Kline — whose catfish account was reportedly the last to contact Libby — and why that was ruled a separate investigation. You’re asking about a composite sketch that was shown to the public for years but never shown to the jury. And you’re asking the question that nine years of waiting has earned these families the right to have answered: did the investigation follow every lead, or did it stop when it found Richard Allen?Robin Dreeke and I sit with these questions. Not because the answers are comfortable, but because Abby and Libby’s families have waited long enough for someone to ask them out loud.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#AbbyAndLibby #DelphiMurders #RichardAllen #JusticeForAbbyAndLibby #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #ListenerQA #DelphiIndiana #Appeal #NeverForget

He confessed to killing them. He told his prison psychiatrist he shot Abby Williams and Libby German. They were not shot. They were killed with a blade. And in ninety-four pages, the Indiana Attorney General's response to Richard Allen's appeal does not explain why a man supposedly confessing to the murders he committed described a method of killing that did not happen.That is not a minor inconsistency. That is the foundation of a 130-year sentence — because without the confessions, there is no case. No DNA links Allen to the crime scene. No murder weapon was recovered. No direct eyewitness placed him with the victims. The confessions were everything. And the confessions contain a cause of death that is factually wrong.The AG's response follows the same pattern on every issue the defense raised. The search warrant built on alleged omissions — the State says it still establishes probable cause. The confessions extracted after more than thirteen months of pretrial solitary confinement — the State says the conditions were not coercive and offers a religious conversion as the explanation. The evidence excluded at trial — the eyewitness sketch the jury never saw, the firearms expert who would have challenged the bullet evidence, the phone calls where Allen questioned his own sanity before and after confessing, the alternative suspects with documented ties to the case — the State calls all of it speculative, hearsay, or improperly preserved.Harmless error. Over and over. On everything.Defense attorney Bob Motta breaks down the full response across a three-part panel — the procedural strategy designed to prevent the appeals court from reaching the substance, the two factual problems the State cannot answer, and what comes next. The defense has filed its reply brief and requested oral arguments. Three judges will decide whether the conviction stands.The families of Abby and Libby were told a verdict meant it was over. If the State's evidence is as overwhelming as the AG claims, the question that will not go away is the one Bob keeps asking — why did they need to keep so much of it from the jury to get there?Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RichardAllen #DelphiMurders #AbbyAndLibby #DelphiAppeal #LibbyGerman #AbbyWilliams #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #JusticeForAbbyAndLibby #MononHighBridge

The Indiana Attorney General's response to Richard Allen's appeal was supposed to shut down the defense's arguments. It didn't. If anything, the State's brief — filed in March 2026 — raises more questions about what Indiana is willing to do to protect this conviction than it answers about whether the conviction was fairly obtained.Allen's appellate attorneys laid out a detailed, sourced case: a search warrant affidavit where a detective changed witness descriptions and omitted information that undercut probable cause, confessions made during a psychotic break after over 13 months in solitary confinement at a facility where no pretrial safekeeper had ever been placed before, and a trial where the defense was blocked from presenting a composite sketch, a firearms expert, solitary confinement audio, exculpatory phone calls, evidence of ritualistic crime scene features, and documented alternative suspects whose investigations were abandoned, whose interviews were recorded over, whose weapons were never collected, and whose phones were never searched.The AG's response to this record: harmless error, waived, speculative. The same words, applied to every issue, as though repetition equals rebuttal.This episode pulls apart the State's brief and asks the question the Attorney General seems determined to avoid. When the detective alters witness statements, when a psychologist destroys her notes, when law enforcement records over interviews with alternative suspects and declines to verify alibis, when a predator's catfish account is the last contact with the victim and his entire criminal case grows out of this investigation but gets walled off as "separate" — at what point does the pattern stop looking like incompetence and start looking like something worse?Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#Delphi #RichardAllen #DelphiMurders #AbbyAndLibby #DelphiCoverup #DelphiAppeal #TrueCrime #RichardAllenAppeal #DelphiCase #JusticeForAbbyAndLibby

They used the word "irrefutable." The Indiana Attorney General filed 94 pages telling the appeals court that the case against Richard Allen is so strong, so complete, so beyond question that nothing the defense raises could change the outcome. We read every page. And we found what they left out.This week we look back at the most important development in the Delphi case since the verdict. The man who confessed to killing Abby Williams and Libby German told his prison psychiatrist he shot them. They were not shot. They were killed with a blade. That detail — documented in the defense's appeal brief — appears nowhere in the State's 94-page response. They call the confessions voluntary, credible, and the product of free will. They never explain how a man confessing from memory described the wrong method of death.The composite sketch witness Betsy Blair reportedly rated her identification a perfect ten. She described a man in his twenties with curly hair. It looks nothing like Richard Allen. The jury never saw it. The bullet comparison, according to trial testimony, initially came back without a match before a different methodology was applied. The prison videos documenting Allen's deterioration in solitary confinement were played for the jury on mute — they could see him but couldn't hear a word. And surveillance footage, according to the defense, shows the van that allegedly corroborates Allen's confession arriving significantly later than the State's witness said it did.The State's answer to all of it: harmless error.No DNA tied Allen to the scene. No murder weapon was recovered. No eyewitness directly identified him. The confessions were the entire case. And the State's response asks the court to accept them without addressing the factual error at their core.Defense attorney Bob Motta walks through every major argument in the brief, what it means for the appeal, and what comes next. The defense reply is due soon. Oral arguments may follow. Richard Allen is in a prison in Oklahoma. Three judges are reading. This is not over.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RichardAllen #DelphiMurders #AbbyAndLibby #DelphiAppeal #LibbyGerman #AbbyWilliams #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers #FalseConfession #WrongfulConviction

You've been inside these documents. You know the warrant. You know the confessions. You know what the jury never heard. Now the State has filed their formal answer to the appeal — and we're going through every argument they make, and every argument they avoid, in this complete three-part panel with defense attorney Bob Motta.The frame: 94 pages from the Indiana Attorney General calling this conviction "conclusive and irrefutable." Not one of those pages addresses the documented fact from the defense's brief that Allen told his psychiatrist he shot the girls. They were not shot.Session one covers the State's strategy — procedural waiver to front-load the shutdown before substance is ever reached, the coercion standard as applied to 13 months of solitary confinement, the religious conversion argument, and harmless error as a universal cover for every ruling that went against the defense.Session two covers the two factual problems. The van — surveillance footage and FBI cell phone data suggesting it arrived after Libby German's phone stopped registering movement, met in the State's brief by a procedural objection to the paperwork rather than a dispute of the data. And the wrong cause of death — documented, in the record, and answered by the State with complete silence across 94 pages.Session three covers what happens now — the reply brief, oral arguments, what partial reversal means in practical terms, what this does to the families of Abby and Libby, and what the five percent reversal rate actually tells us about a case with these specific constitutional questions in front of these specific judges.For anyone who has been tracking every development in this case — this is the full analytical picture.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RichardAllen #DelphiMurders #DelphiAppeal #AbbyAndLibby #LibbyGerman #AbbyWilliams #MononHighBridge #WrongfulConviction #BridgeGuy #DelphiCase

The State has filed their response. The defense gets a reply. Three appellate judges will evaluate whether this conviction can stand.In this final session of our three-part panel, defense attorney Bob Motta goes forward. Not backward through the evidence — forward through the process. What does the reply brief need to land on to give the Court of Appeals a reason to move? Where did the State leave the most daylight? What does oral argument change when you have a case this factually complicated and this constitutionally dense?We get into what reversal actually looks like — not the single dramatic moment people picture, but the range of outcomes the court can reach. Error found on one issue. Specific proceedings on remand. Narrow reversal versus full retrial. Bob maps all of it in plain terms.We also go into the harder questions. What does this mean for the families of Abby Williams and Libby German, who were told a verdict was finality? What does the five percent reversal rate on direct appeal actually tell us about this case — and what does it miss about what the defense is specifically arguing?Richard Allen is in a prison in Oklahoma right now. The reply brief is coming. Three judges are going to decide whether what happened in Carroll County met the constitutional standard. For anyone who has been inside these documents — who knows what was excluded, what was muted, what was never put in front of that jury — this conversation is about whether that standard was actually met.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RichardAllen #DelphiMurders #DelphiAppeal #AbbyAndLibby #LibbyGerman #AbbyWilliams #IndianaCourtOfAppeals #WrongfulConviction #MononHighBridge #DelphiCase

You know the van timeline. You know the cause of death discrepancy. Now get the legal analysis.The prosecution's most important argument was that Richard Allen's confession contained something only the killer could know — that he saw a van drive past during the attack on Abby Williams and Libby German. They traced it to a real neighbor. They called it corroboration. They called it proof the confession was genuine, not psychotic.According to the defense's brief, surveillance footage shows that van arriving significantly after Libby German's phone stopped registering movement at 2:32 pm. FBI cell phone data points to an even later arrival. The State's response to the appeal doesn't dispute the footage or the data. Their answer is that the defense's paperwork wasn't filed with the correct evidentiary foundation at trial. If you've been inside these documents, you understand exactly what that means — and what it doesn't say.And the State says nothing — zero — about the documented fact in the defense's brief that Allen told his psychiatrist he shot the girls. They were not shot.Defense attorney Bob Motta goes through both of these problems with the precision they deserve. The legal implications of a wrong cause of death in a confession. The evidentiary significance of a timeline that doesn't match the State's witness. Dr. Wala's credibility after admitting she may have been wrong and destroying her notes. And what it means for an appellate court evaluating a conviction with no DNA, no murder weapon, and no direct eyewitness identification of the defendant specifically.This is the detail-level breakdown the Delphi case deserves.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RichardAllen #DelphiMurders #DelphiAppeal #AbbyAndLibby #LibbyGerman #AbbyWilliams #FalseConfession #VanTimeline #MononHighBridge #WrongfulConviction

You've read the headlines on the State's response brief. Here's what they actually mean.The Indiana Attorney General filed 94 pages telling the Court of Appeals that Richard Allen's conviction is solid and the trial was fair. The brief calls the evidence "conclusive and irrefutable." It leans on procedural waiver to shut down most of the appeal before the court ever has to evaluate the substance. It describes Allen's solitary confinement conditions as something less than the coercion standard requires. It offers his religious conversion as the explanation for the confessions. And it attaches "harmless error" to every evidentiary ruling that went against the defense.What it never does — across all 94 pages — is address the documented fact from the defense's brief that Allen told his psychiatrist he shot the girls. They were not shot.Defense attorney Bob Motta goes through the State's strategy argument by argument in this session — what Indiana is hoping the Court of Appeals accepts, where the brief is strongest, where it's thinnest, and what the decision to stay silent on the wrong cause of death tells you about how the AG's office actually views the vulnerability of this case on appeal.If you've been inside these documents, this conversation gives you the analytical framework to understand what the appellate court is actually going to weigh.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RichardAllen #DelphiMurders #DelphiAppeal #AbbyAndLibby #LibbyGerman #AbbyWilliams #MononHighBridge #WrongfulConviction #BridgeGuy #DelphiCase

You've been following every development in the Richard Allen appeal. This is the one you've been waiting for.Indiana's Attorney General just filed the State's formal response brief — their full argument for why Allen's 130-year conviction should stand without any intervention from the Court of Appeals. They call the evidence "conclusive and irrefutable." They say the trial was fair. They say the confessions were voluntary. They say everything the jury never heard was properly kept from them.We go through every major argument. And we show you the cracks.The one the State never answers: according to the defense's brief, Richard Allen told his prison psychiatrist that he shot the girls. Abby and Libby were not shot. They were killed with a blade. The State's response is silent on this. Ninety-four pages, and not one addresses why the man they say was confessing from memory got the cause of death wrong.We also walk through the van timeline in detail — the surveillance footage and FBI data the defense obtained showing Brad Weber's van arriving significantly later than his testimony suggested, and the State's answer that the paperwork wasn't filed correctly, not that the data is wrong. The sketch Betsy Blair rated a perfect ten that the jury never saw. The bullet methodology that, according to trial testimony, initially came back without a match. The 15 prison videos played muted at trial.And we break down what "harmless error" actually means in this context — and whether the State is using it as a legal doctrine or a way to avoid harder questions.The defense reply brief is coming. This appeal is not over. This episode is essential.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RichardAllen #DelphiMurders #DelphiAppeal #AbbyAndLibby #LibbyGerman #AbbyWilliams #MononHighBridge #BridgeGuy #DelphiCase #WrongfulConviction

The judge who controlled what the jury saw and heard in Richard Allen's trial just announced her retirement. Frances Gull will step down from the bench at the end of 2026 after nearly thirty years. Her press release talks about Drug Court, veterans, and "second chances." It says nothing about Delphi. Nothing about Abby and Libby. Nothing about Richard Allen.But the 113-page appellant's brief filed last month says plenty.According to the defense, Gull excluded Betsy Blair's composite sketch—the one where Bridge Guy is described as young, in his twenties, with poofy brown hair. Allen was 44 with short hair. The jury never saw it. She excluded William Tobin, a forensic expert with nearly 300 cases who could have challenged the bullet methodology the State relied on. She made the defense mute the audio on videos showing Allen screaming, delusional, and psychotic in solitary confinement. The jury saw strange behavior but never heard the context.She excluded Dawn Perlmutter's testimony explaining the crime scene as a possible ritual killing—even though law enforcement investigated that theory from day one. She excluded all evidence of Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall, alternative suspects with documented ties to pagan rituals and the victim herself. She excluded evidence that police recorded over interviews and ignored tips.But she admitted a Google search conducted during trial to rehabilitate the prosecution's timeline.Now she's walking away. The appeals court will decide if what she built can stand.#JudgeGull #FrancesGull #Delphi #DelphiMurders #RichardAllen #AbbyAndLibby #LibbyGerman #AbbyWilliams #DelphiTrial #DelphiIndianaJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.