163: The clean beauty backlash | clean cosmetic chemist Krupa Koestline

“I think it's also important to distinguish the difference between appearance and beauty. Those are two very separate things,” says esthetician and beauty curator Natasha Glasgow. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, host and beauty director Alexandra Engler chats with Glasgow about how she curates a routine for her top-level clientele, dropping the “hustle culture” mindset, and how to talk to your kids about beauty.  Show notes: -New customers of Vuori enjoy 20% off your first purchase when you visit vuori.com/beautyschool. Along with that, you’ll get free shipping on any U.S. orders over $75 and free returns.  -You can’t find a softer, more sustainable towel. MicroCotton® towels are cloud-like on the skin—and uses 90% green energy, cotton farmed through the Better Cotton Initiative, and is OEKOTEX® MADE IN GREEN certified. Shop at: https://www.macys.com/shop/product/hotel-collection-ultimate-microcotton-bath-towel-collection-created-for-macys -Follow our guest: @the.nvg -Learn more about her work: https://nvgbeauty.com/  -Shop products mentioned in this episode: La Mer Creme de la Mer, Aura Beauty Healing Balm, Biologique Recherche masques, HigherDOSE Red Light Face Mask, Iris & Romeo Weekend Skin SPF 50, Westman Atelier Vital Skin Foundation Stick, Rye Beauty Brow Grooming Serum, Jones Road Miracle Balm, The Deweffect Eye Balm Follow the host: @alex_blair_ Call in: sayhi.chat/cleanbeautyschool Comments: [email protected] Sponsorship inquiries: [email protected]

“There’s so much noise out there. Right now every influencer is recommending the Rhode Blush, but what about the blush you recommended two weeks ago?” says clean cosmetic chemist Krupa Koestline, founder of KKT Innovation Labs. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, host and beauty director Alexandra Engler chats with Koestline about what MoCRA gets right and wrong, the clean beauty backlash, and the most exciting beauty trends on the horizon. Show notes:  -New customers of Vuori enjoy 20% off your first purchase when you visit vuori.com/beautyschool. Along with that, you’ll get free shipping on any U.S. orders over $75 and free returns.  -Follow our guest: @KKTlabs -Learn more about your work: https://kktlabs.com/  -Shop products mentioned in this episode: NOPALERA shampoo and conditioner bars, Youth To The People 10% AHA + Yerba Matte Smoothing Energy Body Scrub, The Ordinary Hyaluronic Acid 2% + B5, The Ordinary Soothing & Barrier Support Serum,  Le Prunier Plum Beauty Oil, May Lindstrom The Blue Cocoon, Obagi Vitamin C Serum, Peach & Lily Retinal For All  Follow the host: @alex_blair_ Call in: sayhi.chat/cleanbeautyschool Comments: [email protected] Sponsorship inquiries: [email protected]

“Our skin is a reflection of what is within. How can you be rubbing all of these antioxidants on the surface, but then not matching that same energy from within?” asks holistic esthetician Katey Kristabelle. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Kristabelle about the benefits of facial massage, improving skin’s overall oil quality, and her best acne tips. Show notes: -New customers of Vuori enjoy 20% off your first purchase when you visit vuori.com/beautyschool. Along with that, you’ll get free shipping on any U.S. orders over $75 and free returns.  -You can’t find a softer, more sustainable towel. MicroCotton®️ towels are cloud-like on the skin—and uses 90% green energy, cotton farmed through the Better Cotton Initiative, and is OEKOTEX®️ MADE IN GREEN certified. Shop at: https://www.macys.com/shop/product/hotel-collection-ultimate-microcotton-bath-towel-collection-created-for-macys -Follow our guest: @facesbykatey -Learn more about her practice: https://www.facesbykatey.com/  -Products mentioned in this episode: Osmosis Correct Preventative Retinal Serum, Apoterra Vetiver Illuminating Oil Cleanser, Apoterra Vitamin C Regenerative Balm -Follow the host: @alex_blair_ -Call in: sayhi.chat/cleanbeautyschool -Comments: [email protected] -Sponsorship inquiries: [email protected]

“We believe that  anyone can have great skin—regardless of your age, skin tone, or type—if you focus on the things that really work,” says scientist Daniel Isaacs, Chief Product Officer & Co-founder of Medik8. UK-based Medik8 is a science-driven, clean, and sustainable beauty brand founded by Isaacs and his brother. “And there are some ingredients out there that visibly improve the health and condition of people's skin.” In this episode of Clean Beauty School, host and beauty director Alexandra Engler chats with Isaacs about what to look for in a vitamin C serum, retinol’s stability problem, and the best ingredients to use for great skin. This episode was made in partnership with Medik8. For our listeners, you get a special offer: For first time customers visit Medik8.us for 20% off your first order with code CLEANBEAUTY20 at checkout.  Show notes: -Follow Medik8: @officialmedik8 -Learn more about Medik8: https://us.medik8.com/  -Shop products mentioned in this formula: Medik8 C-Tetra, Super C Ferulic, Crystal Retinal 24, Liquid Peptides, Oxy-R Peptides, Total Moisture Daily Facial Cream, Toners, Micellar Mousse, Advanced Ceramide Night -Follow the host: @alex_blair_ -Call in: sayhi.chat/cleanbeautyschool -Comments: [email protected] -Sponsorship inquiries: [email protected]

“Wrinkles are a sign of life. Wrinkles are earned. Wrinkles do not make people look bad,” says aesthetic specialist Lisa Goodman, MPAS, founder of Goodskin Clinics. Welcome to a bonus drop episode of Clean Beauty School! Today we're re-sharing one of our all-time favorite (and best performing) episodes that covered everything from the five elements of facial aging to what we’re getting wrong about Botox use. Upon listening to it a second time, we picked up so many more tidbits about how you can support your skin as you age—and we know you will too. Show notes: -For listeners of Clean Beauty School, enjoy 20% off your first purchase at Vuori when you visit vuori.com/beautyschool. Along with that, you’ll get free shipping on any U.S. orders over $75 and free returns.  -Learn more about Lisa Goodman and Goodskin Clinics -Follow Goodskin Clinics -Learn more about The Good Skin Method -Follow the host: @alex_blair_ -Call in: sayhi.chat/cleanbeautyschool -Comments: [email protected] -Sponsorship inquiries: [email protected]

“I have worked with so many women who, at one point in time, felt that their voice was not being heard—so instead, it was their skin that started to visibly shout. The body wanted to be heard in one way another,” says board-certified and mindbodygreen collective member dermatologist Keira Barr, M.D. “I cannot tell you how many times I have seen that experience where there is a connection between unmet needs and what is showing up on the surface.”  In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Barr about the brain-skin connection, how the nervous system influences our appearance, and how trauma can trigger skin concerns.  Show notes: -Follow our guest: @drkeirabarr -Learn more about her practice: https://drkeirabarr.com/  -Read more about the skin-brain connection and psychodermatology Follow the host: @alex_blair_ Call in: sayhi.chat/cleanbeautyschool Comments: [email protected] Sponsorship inquiries: [email protected]

“I remember a manager of mine before I went out on my own, she was like ‘You’re never going to be successful because all your clients look so natural when they leave—it looks like you didn’t even do anything.’ I was just like, sorry, this is just what I do!” says celebrity colorist Jenna Perry, whose clients include Bella Hadid, Kendal Jenner, and Chloe Sevigny. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Perry about hair color trends, how to avoid damage when transitioning hair color, and how to go back to your natural hue.  Show notes: -Follow our guest: @JennaPerryHair and @jennaPerryHairStudio  -Learn more: https://www.jennaperryhair.com/  -Shop products mentioned in this episode: Olaplex No. 3 Hair Perfector, No. 4D Clean Volume Detox Dry Shampoo, No. 7 Bonding Oil, Roz The Foundation Duo, iS Clinical, MAKE Beauty Subverse Plumping Peptide Serum, Sephora Sheet Masks, Byredo Technical Black Eyeliner, Charlotte Tilbury Pillow Talk Lipstick, Westman Atelier Follow the host: @alex_blair_ Call in: sayhi.chat/cleanbeautyschool Comments: [email protected] Sponsorship inquiries: [email protected]

“When I started getting into skin care myself, I was like ‘I have this texture, these bumps, and I’m starting to develop fine lines, what are the things I can buy?’ It’s always been very problem-solution focused. If we understand how to get these concerns, then we can understand what ingredients to look for in a product and then we can find the right products to really help with that,” says board-certified dermatologist Muneeb Shah, D.O., who is sometimes better known as the face behind the YouTube, TikTok, and Instagram sensation Doctorly. Shah is now the founder of the results-oriented skin care brand Remedy Science.  In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Shah about retinol use, dealing with dark spots, and finding reputable information on social media. Show notes: -Follow our guest on Instagram and Tiktok: @Doctorly -Watch their YouTube videos: https://www.youtube.com/@Doctorly  -Follow Remedy Science: @Remedyskin -Shop products mentioned in this episode: Remedy Science Remedy for Dark Spots and Remedy for Pore Size Follow the host: @alex_blair_ Call in: sayhi.chat/cleanbeautyschool Comments: [email protected] Sponsorship inquiries: [email protected]

“Any issue that becomes a lighting rod means it’s powerful. ‘Clean’ is a term that people now debate. Some people love it. Some people hate it. But to me, clean living is just about making choices that are good for people and the planet. Simple as that. And I don’t think there’s any superiority to the term, either,” says sustainability and consumer protection expert Lindsay Dahl, Chief Impact Officer at Ritual. In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen beauty director Alexandra Engler chats with Dahl about her decades-long career fighting for consumer protection, how to spot greenwashing red flags, and why radical traceability is the future of the well-being space.  This episode is sponsored by HyaCera. Start HyaCera to help minimize wrinkles without compromising on clean science. Get 30% off your first month at ritual.com/cleanbeautyschool. Show notes: -Follow our guest: @lindsay_dahl  -Learn more about Dahl’s work: https://lindsaydahl.com/about-lindsay-dahl/  -Follow Ritual: @ritual -Learn more about Ritual: https://ritual.com/  -Shop the products mentioned in this episode: Ritual Multivitamins, Prenatal vitamins, HyaCera, Daily Shake 18+, Osea body care, Beautycounter  *These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. †Based on a 12-week randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical study on 63 women and men ages 26 to 64 years old

“You can have the best products on the planet, but if your diet sucks you’re not going to look good. Diet is extremely important,” says Isfahan Chambers-Harris, Ph.D. “You don’t have to be overly controlling, but you should have leafy green vegetables, eat those fruits, consume lean means, and drink water.” In this episode of Clean Beauty School, mindbodygreen beauty director and host Alexandra Engler chats with Chambers-Harris about how nutrition influences hair growth, autoimmune disease and hair loss, and the role of chemical treatments on hair health.  Show notes: -Follow our guest:@drisfahan  -Learn more about Isfahan Chambers-Harris: https://alodiahaircare.com/pages/from-the-owner  -Shop Alodia: https://alodiahaircare.com/ -Follow the host: @alex_blair_ -Comments: [email protected] -Sponsorship inquiries: [email protected]