The Google People Analytics Co-Founder on What HR Gets Wrong

Michelle Volberg, Founder and CEO of TwillIf you want to know what is actually happening behind closed doors in Big Tech hiring, you do not ask a random resume guru on LinkedIn. You ask someone who has survived nine years inside Google, transitioned from Comms to People Operations, and literally trains Googlers on how to use internal AI tools.In this episode of Call HR, Michelle sits down with Camila Luis, Creative Strategy and AI Content Creation Lead at Google.Camila pulls back the curtain on how AI is actually reshaping work, why the panic around job hunting is missing the point, and the uncomfortable truths early-career professionals need to hear if they want to build a career that survives the next decade.🩷 Stream Call HR wherever you listen and watch podcasts🩷Call HR is brought to you by Twill — get paid to refer your friends to jobs at Google, Zapier, and the fastest-growing startups. Yes, really. withtwill.com

She's worked at Google, Dropbox, and was Chief People Officer at TripActions. Now she's a Partner at Bain Capital Ventures helping founders build companies that people actually want to work at. Leslie Crowe has seen hiring from every angle, and she's not holding back. We're talking about the perks that actually keep people from quitting (spoiler: it's not the snack wall), the one thing candidates do in interviews that secretly backfires, her #1 job search advice, and whether AI is about to replace your entire HR department.Follow Leslie & Check out the Bain Capital Ventures Page:• Linkedin: Leslie Crowe• Bain Capital Ventures: LinkedInFollow Call HR:Tik Tok: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Spotify: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Apple Podcasts: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠YouTube: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Instagram: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠🩷 Stream Call HR wherever you listen and watch podcasts 🩷Call HR is brought to you by Twill — get paid to refer your friends to jobs at Google, Zapier, and the fastest-growing startups. Yes, really. withtwill.com

He co-founded People Analytics at Google. Spent 11 years there pre-IPO. Ran people teams at Twitter (before it was X) and two Bay Area tech companies. Now he's the first-ever Chief People Officer at Bessemer Venture Partners. Todd Carlisle has seen it all—and he's not holding back on what's overhyped, where AI doesn't belong, and what most people leaders get wrong.

Jenna Craig is President of National Media at iHeartMedia, leading national product sales and partnerships. But what got her here started way before the title.In this episode, she shares the move that made hiring managers chase her, why the women in her life never feared asking for money (and how that shaped everything), and what most people get wrong when they're trying to stand out.In this episode, we cover:The backchannel move that makes hiring managers remember youWhat she looks for in a candidate that most people never think to doThe promotion advice no one gives recent gradsFollow Jenna & Check out the iHeartMedia Careers Page:Linkedin: Jenna CraigiHeartMedia: Careers PageFollow Call HR:Tik Tok: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Spotify: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Apple Podcasts: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠YouTube: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Instagram: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Call HR is brought to you by Twill — get paid to refer your friends to jobs at Google, Zapier, and the fastest-growing startups. Yes, really. withtwill.com

Amy Goldfinger spent 12 years placing CHROs at top companies, 6 years leading talent at Walmart, and now runs people strategy at Slice. She's seen what makes teams thrive, and what makes top talent walk out the door.In this episode:The real reason your best people leave (hint: it's not the money)Why most HR leader hires fail—and the red flags nobody talks aboutRetention strategies that work whether you have 50 employees or 2 millionHow to build a culture people don't want to escapeNo-bs career advice for anyone in talent and people opsFollow Amy & Check out the Slice Careers Page:• Linkedin: Amy Goldfinger• Slice: Careers PageFollow Call HR:Tik Tok: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Spotify: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Apple Podcasts: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠YouTube: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Instagram: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Call HR is brought to you by Twill — get paid to refer your friends to jobs at Google, Zapier, and the fastest-growing startups. Yes, really. withtwill.com

In this episode, Michelle Volberg, Founder and CEO of Twill, sits down with Kenzie Hoelscher, Lead Recruiter at AssemblyAI, whose unconventional path into talent is anything but typical. She works for an AI company and uses AI in everything she does.Listen to hear:What it’s really like to be a solo recruiter scaling a company, and the lessons she learned helping double headcountHer candid take on AI in hiring—from spotting bot-generated applications to where AI actually adds value (and where it doesn’t)The truth about startup life: who thrives, who struggles, and the tradeoffs most people don’t talk aboutWhy recruiters need to evolve from “inbox managers” to strategic talent partners—and how to break into recruiting at top AI companiesFollow Kenzie & Check out AssemblyAI’s Career Page:LinkedIn: Kenzie HoelscherAssemblyAI CareersFollow Call HR:Tik Tok: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Spotify: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Apple Podcasts: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠YouTube: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Instagram: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Call HR is brought to you by Twill — get paid to refer your friends to jobs at Google, Zapier, and the fastest-growing startups. Yes, really. withtwill.com

This week Kyle Hagge – Chief of Staff at Morning Brew Inc. joins Call HR to talk career. He breaks down:How to influence without authorityWhy 5-year career plans don’t workShould employees build personal brands—or notHis philosophy on building a career: collecting dots and when to connect themFollow Kyle & Check out Morning Brew’s Career Page:LinkedIn: Kyle HaggeMorning Brew Inc. CareersFollow Call HR:Tik Tok: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Spotify: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Apple Podcasts: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠YouTube: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Instagram: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Call HR is brought to you by Twill — get paid to refer your friends to jobs at Google, Zapier, and the fastest-growing startups. Yes, really. withtwill.com

Ronni Paradiso Johnson is the Head of Talent Operations & Strategy at Asana — and she's already working with AI teammates. We talked about:→ The hiring mistakes founders keep making (and how to stop)→ Why the future of TA is leverage, not headcount→ How to actually work with AI teammates (and who gets in trouble if they make a mistake?)Follow Ronni & Check out Asana’s Career Page:LinkedIn: Ronni Paradiso JohnsonAsana CareersFollow Call HR:Tik Tok: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Spotify: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Apple Podcasts: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠YouTube: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Instagram: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Call HR is brought to you by Twill — get paid to refer your friends to jobs. withtwill.com

Michelle Volberg, Founder and CEO of Twill, sits down with Phil Reese, Global Head of Talent Acquisition at Klaviyo — the guy who built Chewy's tech employer brand from nothing and survived hiring for Meta's most scrutinized teams. He's not holding back.Listen to hear:How to spot real TA leadership talentKnown everywhere vs. known by the right people — why it mattersWhat goes sideways in recruiting when a company goes publicSurviving high-volume recruiting — and teaching others to do itThe employer brand mistakes no one admits to makingFollow Phil & Check out Klaivyo’s Career Page:LinkedIn: Phil Reese Klaviyo CareersFollow Call HR:Tik Tok: ⁠@CallHRPodcastSpotify: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Apple Podcasts: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠YouTube: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Instagram: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Call HR is brought to you by Twill — get paid to refer your friends to jobs at Google, Zapier, and the fastest-growing startups. Yes, really. withtwill.com

Michelle Volberg, Founder and CEO of Twill, brings on Lea Stern, a senior HR leader and partner to the Head of AI at Stripe — now valued at over $100B. This week, she asks everything you wish you could: the culture, AI transformation, and what HR leaders never say out loud.Listen to hear:Why iconic consumer brands built the HR leader Stripe neededHow to stand out when everyone looks the same on paperThe red flag HR spots immediately — but rarely says out loudThe management mistake that's more common than anyone admitsHow to stay relevant as AI reshapes every role around youFollow Lea & Check out Stripe’s Career Page:LinkedIn: Lea SternStripe JobsFollow Call HR:Tik Tok: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Spotify: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Apple Podcasts: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠YouTube: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Instagram: ⁠@CallHRPodcast⁠Call HR is brought to you by Twill — get paid to refer your friends to jobs at Google, Zapier, and the fastest-growing startups. Yes, really. withtwill.com