#1323 – Pat Valentino, Chris LeMay
Pat Valentio Jr. (Sept 20th – Aug 2nd 2026)
Interview from Pat’s home in Sept 2012
Pat, a long time JFK researcher is a music arranger, Chris writes the BOR show notes
Pat’s interest began the day of the assassination, and with the murder of Oswald
Oswald was tried by the WC with no defense, Rush To Judgment (Lane 1966)
The evidence and testimony did not gel with the Commission’s report
Inquest (Epstein 1966), Pat tape recorded Mark Lane being interviewed on the radio in LA
Six Seconds in Dallas (Thompson 1976), Pat taped a debate with Lane and Louis Nizer
Pat knew and worked with Donald Freed and Steve Soter
Steve and Pat interviewed a chef at a restaurant frequented by JFK and Jack Ruby
The War Conspiracy (Scott 1972), Executive Action (Freed/Trumbo 1973)
Pat did a lot of taping off the TV, before the availability of video recording
9/11, the Bush Administration dodged valid questions and concerns
1993/94 Pat met regularly with Gary Aguilar at his home
Pat has given presentations of his JFK recording archive
BOR provides new research revelations and a historical perspective
Convoluted arguments by WC defenders, Robert Oswald in Lifton’s new book
Best Evidence (Lifton 1981), was ready to go to press, then came the HSCA releases
In 1975, Pat’s sister was dating David Lifton, David had a lot of rare books
David asked Pat to attend a lecture by Fred Newcomb, the body alteration theory
David read Sibert and O’Neill, “surgery of the head area, namely, in the top of the skull”
He showed it to professor and Warren Commission counsel Wesley Leibler
Leibler wrote a memo and sent it to many people in Washington
Katzenbach dismissed it saying, “Bobby Kennedy would have done something”
David questioned Allen Dulles at a UCLA lecture re: back and to the left
Patricia Lambert cooperated with, then fell out with David and Pat
Jim Garrison may have been gun shy, he was courageous
Patricia was a dedicated participant with David Lifton
Gary Aguilar on C-SPAN with Max Holland, re: Jim Garrison and Clay Shaw
Hal Lieberman, Harry Livingstone, Donald Freed, monthly meetings, William Turner
The 1993 ASK conference, Norman Mailer
David on his own and with Pat recorded many interviews with witnesses
1983, David a set of FBI Agent Fox’s autopsy photos, Pat invited David to Dallas
They interviewed several Parkland doctors, first, anesthesiologist Marion Jenkins
He was a Kennedy hater, shown the photos, he was noncommittal
Jenkins claimed he felt an unseen shoulder wound, but only 17 years later to the HSCA
Dr. Peters, Dr. Jones, Peters says, “Oh no…it’s occipital parietal“
Dr. Kemp Clark, though reluctant to talk to researchers, called David
In his office, Clark didn’t look at the photos, so he wouldn’t have to go record
1989, Pat and David filmed extensive interviews, including John Newman
Pat has the original draft of Newman’s JFK and Vietnam (1992)
Fletcher Prouty and John Newman, Oswald and the CIA (Newman 1995)
It’s the intelligence community, not a lone Marxist, deeper then the CIA, like ONI
John Kennedy handled the Bay of Pigs, finessed the Missile Crisis, greatest capacity for learning
He had the greatest capacity for learning, and the willingness to learn
Johnson, Nixon, Dealey Plaza compared to entering Oz, Nixon was assassinated by Watergate
Nixon’s criminality, paranoia, red-baiting, Helen Gahagan Douglas
The Hiss and Rosenberg cases, typewritten materials precede the typewriter manufacture
Hoover and Roy Cohn, 9/11, Dealey Plaza II, Building 7, Silverstein, “pull it”
A tremendous breakdown in security, George Tenet and David Boren, a pilot’s license
Hijackers in Las Vegas, a hubbub that disappeared, believers wouldn’t be visiting strippers
The Warren Commission did not invent suppressing documents for years, there was precedent
Richard Case Nagell, Mort Sahl, Garrison subpoenas denied by Governors
Garrison’s war service, this was not the country he fought for
Pat followed the Kennedy candidacy and his administration, the Best Evidence
Lifton’s work, body alteration is bizarre, then you hear the Bethesda witnesses
Jerrol Custer observing Jackie entering the lobby after x-raying JFK
Events in and surrounding Bethesda, Gerry Spence and Paul O’Connor in London (1986)
The helicopter lifting off from the right side of Air Force One, you can hear it
That casket does not have John Kennedy’s body, Lifton’s approach to evidence
Two sets of doctors, two lenses, the potential of interviewing David Lifton
