The Complexity of Betrayal Anger with Dr. Crystal Hollenbeck

In this episode of Betrayal Recovery Radio, Dr. Jake Porter and Carol Sheets discuss the complexities of infidelity and its distinction from compulsive sexual behavior. They explore the emotional impact of betrayal on relationships, the importance of rebuilding trust and values, and the role of empathy in the healing process. The conversation also delves into post-traumatic growth, emphasizing how couples can emerge stronger from their experiences. Practical tools and strategies for couples navigating recovery are shared, highlighting the importance of gratitude and meaningful connections in the healing journey.Carol Juergensen Sheets, ACSW, LCSW, CSAT, CCPS-C, PCC is a highly regarded social worker, personal life coach and a renowned self-help author who brings a variety of experiences to her clients and readers including having worked in schools, hospitals and in mental health for over 40 years. She has worked for 4 decades facilitating thousands of groups for women and teens. Additionally, Carol has devoted the last 2 decades to helping men and women manage their sex addiction and helping betrayed partners work through the trauma of sexual and relational betrayal. She is a well respected sex and relationship therapist to individuals and couples across the country and beyond. Carol completed her master's degree at the honorable institution, Indiana University School of Social Work. She is currently facilitating popular workshops on relationships both statewide and nationally. Carol does annual workshops for the International Institute for Trauma and Addiction Professionals. She is also a revered trainer for the Association of Partners of Sex Addicts Trauma Specialists and is a consultant for clinicians and coaches for APSATS. Carol believes in teaching people how to live their best lives in romance and in life in general.Links:⁠http://apsats.org⁠⁠http://drjakeporter.com/breakingbarriers⁠Find more on Carol:https://sexhelpwithcarolthecoach.comCarol's books!This podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.

In this episode of the Betrayal Recovery Radio podcast, Dr. Jake Porter speaks with Tabitha Westbrook, a licensed marriage and family therapist, about her personal journey as a survivor of childhood sexual abuse and domestic violence. They discuss the importance of understanding the body in the healing process, the impact of trauma, and how to listen to one's body. Tabitha shares insights on navigating betrayal and abuse, reconnecting with oneself and others, and defining healthy sexuality. The conversation emphasizes the need for compassion, understanding, and the importance of addressing both emotional and physical aspects of healing.APSATS.orgAPSATS.org/podcastdrjakeporter.comMore of Tabitha:https://www.tabithawestbrook.comhttps://thejourneyandtheprocess.comhttps://www.amazon.com/Body-Soul-Healed-Whole-Invitational/dp/1496490665This podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.

In this conversation, Dr. Crystal Hollenbeck discusses her book 'Betrayal, Trauma, Anger' with Dr. Jake Porter, focusing on the complex emotions surrounding betrayal trauma, particularly anger. They explore the unique nature of anger in betrayal situations, the impact of betrayal blindness and gaslighting, and the seven phases of managing anger. The discussion emphasizes the importance of self-care, awareness, and rebuilding trust in oneself, while also addressing the role of the betrayer in the healing process. The conversation concludes with words of hope for those navigating the aftermath of betrayal.Links:⁠http://apsats.org⁠⁠http://drjakeporter.com/breakingbarriers⁠Find more of Dr. Crystal Hollenbeck:Website: https://crystalhollenbeck.comFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DrCrystalHollenbeckBook: Betrayal Trauma Anger BookMore: SCIP ProtocolBetrayal Trauma Article in the Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy This podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.

In this episode of Betrayal Recovery Radio, Dr. Jake Porter interviews Jill Pool, a certified professional coach, about the complexities of emotional betrayal. They explore the definitions, dimensions, and impacts of emotional betrayal, including emotional neglect and the nuances of emotional affairs. Jill shares her insights on the importance of clear communication and understanding in relationships, as well as the significance of validation and hope in the healing process for both betrayed and betraying partners. The conversation emphasizes the need for awareness of emotional triggers and the steps necessary for recovery and rebuilding trust.As a Certified Professional Coach and APSATS Candidate, Jill Pool offers a unique blend of personal insight and professional expertise. With extensive personal experience, she's an invaluable resource for partners navigating betrayal recovery amidst challenges like homeschooling, special needs parenting, and the loss of a child. Driven by a passion to clarify emotional betrayal, she creates resources that help betrayed partners express themselves more effectively. As a Christian, Jill offers clients the chance to integrate their faith into their healing journey. Together with her husband Alonso, Jill co-owns and coaches at Hope in the Havoc, guiding individuals toward healing and restoration. She is also a contracted coach with Hope Redefined. As a homeschooling mom of 12, Jill knows the demands of balancing family life with recovery. When not coaching, she enjoys hiking and admiring sunsets along the tranquil Tennessee RiverLinks:⁠http://apsats.org⁠⁠http://drjakeporter.com/breakingbarriers⁠Find more of Jill:Website: hopeinthehavoc.com Facebook: Hope in the Havoc Instagram: @hopeinthehavoc Email:  [email protected] podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.

In this powerful and heartfelt episode of Betrayal Recovery Radio, Dr. Jake Porter is joined by returning guest Andrea Rogers for a conversation that is as historic as it is healing. Andrea makes a major announcement: the official launch of Intimate Partner Betrayal Awareness Day, a day dedicated to honoring the voices and validating the experiences of those impacted by intimate partner betrayal. This episode is filled with emotion, advocacy, and the unwavering belief that healing begins when truth is honored and justice starts with being heard. Whether you are a survivor, a clinician, or a loved one walking alongside someone in pain, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.APSATS.orgAPSATS.org/podcastdrjakeporter.comhelpafterbetrayal.comhttps://www.daringventures.com/andrea-rogershttps://www.fullyalivecoachingllc.comThis podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.

This episode tackles a tricky and often painful topic—one that leaves many couples feeling stuck: how to navigate attraction after betrayal. When trust has been shattered by infidelity, even something as seemingly harmless as noticing an attractive person can feel threatening. In this conversation, Jake Porter and Karla Summey unpack the difference between noticing and objectifying, examine the influence of cultural messages around beauty and desire, and offer guidance on how transparency, communication, and self-compassion can help couples move forward. For anyone who has felt confused, triggered, or unsure how to engage these moments without causing more harm, this episode offers clarity, validation, and a path toward healing.Karla Summey is a certified coach who specializes in supporting individuals and couples in the aftermath of sexual betrayal. With a background in nursing and certifications through the International Coaching Federation (ICF), APSATS, and as a Certified Disclosure Guide Coach, she brings both clinical insight and relational wisdom to her work. Karla is especially passionate about fostering shared reality and guiding couples through the Early Recovery Couples Empathy Model (ERCEM) and the Couple-Centered Recovery model. Her compassionate, honest, and partner-sensitive approach helps couples rebuild safety and trust in the face of deep relational wounds.APSATS.orgAPSATS.org/podcastdrjakeporter.com/breakingbarrierskarlasummey.com/This podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.

In part 2 of this talk, Maddie Corman joins Dr. Jake Porter and APSATS President, Jeanne Vattuone, for an honest and deeply moving conversation about her one-woman play-turned-film Accidentally Brave, which chronicles her experience of navigating the fallout of her husband’s public betrayal. Maddie shares the story behind the creation of the play, the emotional and relational aftermath of disclosure, and what it means to live with courage, compassion, and authenticity in the face of personal devastation. Together, they explore themes of trust, healing, and the power of storytelling as a path to connection and growth.APSATS.orgMaddieCorman.comAccidentallyBrave.comAPSATS.org/podcastdrjakeporter.comhelpafterbetrayal.comThis podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.

In this episode, Maddie Corman joins Dr. Jake Porter and APSATS President, Jeanne Vattuone, for an honest and deeply moving conversation about her one-woman play-turned-film Accidentally Brave, which chronicles her experience of navigating the fallout of her husband’s public betrayal. Maddie shares the story behind the creation of the play, the emotional and relational aftermath of disclosure, and what it means to live with courage, compassion, and authenticity in the face of personal devastation. Together, they explore themes of trust, healing, and the power of storytelling as a path to connection and growth.APSATS.orgMaddieCorman.comAccidentallyBrave.comAPSATS.org/podcastdrjakeporter.comhelpafterbetrayal.comThis podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.

In a world where trust can be a fragile commodity, betrayed partners find themselves at a crossroads. Confronted with the painful aftermath of betrayal, many feel stuck and confused. They don’t want to be defined by betrayal but feel traumatized, confused and isolated. In Betrayal Trauma recover they embark on a courageous journey to break free from the shackles of hurt and deceit. Through resilience and unwavering determination, they choose to heal the wounds, not just of their hearts but quite possibly their relationships as well. These individuals become living testaments to the power of interdependence, clarity and truth, proving that even the most shattered hearts can be mended with patience, understanding, and the choice to heal.Links: www.apsats.orgwww.apsats.org/podcastwww.drjakeporter.comwww.drjakeporter.com/breakingbarriersStacey Sadler Smith is a Licensed Professional Counselor, EMDR Certified Therapist and a Certified Sex Addiction Therapist Candidate. She is Chief Clinical Officer for Daring Ventures Counseling, Coaching and Consulting, LLC. Trainer for The Association of Partners of Sex Addicts Trauma Specialists (APSATS) Multi-Dimensional Partner Trauma Model (MPTM). In this 4-Day training she teaches coaches and clinicians how to ethically treat partners of sex addicts who are suffering from betrayal trauma. Stacey is passionate about advocating for partners of sex addicts by helping them to find their voice. Stacey Sadler Smith is a Licensed Professional Counselor, EMDR Certified Therapist and a Certified Sex Addiction Therapist Candidate. She is Chief Clinical Officer for Daring Ventures Counseling, Coaching and Consulting, LLC. Trainer for The Association of Partners of Sex Addicts Trauma Specialists (APSATS) Multi-Dimensional Partner Trauma Model (MPTM). In this 4-Day training she teaches coaches and clinicians how to ethically treat partners of sex addicts who are suffering from betrayal trauma. Stacey is passionate about advocating for partners of sex addicts by helping them to find their voice.This podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.

In PART 2 of this two-part episode of Betrayal Recovery Radio, Dr. Jake Porter is joined by Pam Blizzard and Steph Farnsworth to tackle one of the most frustrating challenges for betrayed partners: when the betraying partner isn’t doing the work. Together, they explore the emotional urgency of healing, the disconnect between partners' expectations, and the deeper psychological dynamics at play. They discuss why some betraying partners seem stuck, how betrayed partners can navigate the frustration, and what real progress in recovery actually looks like. Whether you're feeling hopeless or just seeking clarity, this episode offers validation, insight, and actionable steps to help you move forward on your healing journey.Links:⁠https://apsats.org⁠⁠https://drjakeporter.com⁠https://drjakeporter.com/breakingbarriers⁠⁠http://recoveredpeace.com⁠⁠http://recoveredpeace.com/about-steph⁠This podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.