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Toaster4u - Password Stealer, Trojans

11/11/2026
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Toast4U walks through building his own AOL password stealer called "Toast," getting the family account killed when he told AOL support exactly what it did, and graduating to Winsock Trojans he ran on his college dorm network.

Highlights Include:

  • Going from a Packard Bell running DOS to AOL chat rooms and ASCII art puntersFate 2.5, Hellraiser, and trading proggies in private rooms
  • Learning VB3 and building Magenta's password-stealer creator
  • Building and distributing his own password stealer, "Toast," in warez rooms
  • Getting the family AOL account killed after AOL support asked what "Toast" was
  • Password cracking with Sabotage over dial-up, one guess every two seconds
  • Moving to Winsock Trojans, IRC distribution, and a dorm-network attack in college
  • A government client's SQL injection and the lesson that escaping quotes isn't enough
  • Now a security-focused software engineer, 20+ years in, still shipping personal projects


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Guest: Toaster4u

Host: Steve Stonebraker

Audio Editor: Sam Fox ([email protected]⁠⁠)

CoverArt: Created by Broast (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://broast.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠), original idea by LampGold.

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