How Do I Get Over Imposter Syndrome? feat. Julian Shapiro-Barnum

Live at the Bell House, Jordan and Michelle turn UP as they welcome ICONS of the highest order, Afro-Electro-Disco-Space-Punks, The Illustrious Blacks! Michelle prompts a discussion on 'Yo Mama' jokes and the genre’s forgotten (aka cringe) pop culture moments, Jordan arrives to the chat with an Adulting question for Michelle who serves a WIN-WIN solution, and Manchildblack and Monstahblack graciously share the origin story of their 20+ year creative / romantic collab! Let the bass drop!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Michelle and Jordan are honored to be in conversation with costume designer, co-founder / co-conspirator of Black Trans Liberation, and Adulting kindred spirit, Qween Jean. Jordan “No Regrets Carlos” tells the tale of younger Jordan capturing the attention of a Hollywood bombshell, beyond college parties and her first taste of Alize, Michelle shares why Miami will always be in her heart, and through memories of childhood and the writings of James Baldwin, Qween Jean discusses the journey to living her truth—so you can live yours! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s an Adulting Homecoming at the Bell House when Jordan and Michelle bring it in with four-time Grammy-winning rapper / NYT best-selling author / co-founder of The Roots (THAT PART!), Tariq “Black Thought” Trotter. Jordan walks back in time to the fateful night he met his man crush in a bar (DENZEL!!!), in the midst of mistaken identity Michelle exemplifies going high with humor and class while seated in economy, and Tariq arrives, "Irk List" in hand, 1.) to hilariously go off on the surprising things that yuk his yum (shoelaces???), and 2.) to sound off on any and all things adulting including navigating jealousy in oneself and others. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Live from Brooklyn’s Bell House, Michelle and Jordan welcome Ted Lasso writer, actor, and podcast host of Conversations with People Who Hate Me, Dylan Marron. Jordan reflects on his adulting journey from BC (before Costco) to his present 40s form (doomsday pantry as the new stunting and flossing), Michelle shows her earliest receipts for preparedness when she details her intense, age 5 morning routine, and Dylan, married for 8 years now(!!!), explains why productive fights are essential to maintaining a healthy relationship. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Michelle and Jordan welcome a bucket list guest to the Bell House stage—the icon, the symbol, the legend, Grammy-awarded singer-songwriter, Norah Jones [AIRHORN!!!]. Jordan shares a harrowing story that sparks a family debate over the diff between a pet and a pest, Michelle recounts the dramatic transformation of her eccentric roommates cat from white to pink fur—an NYC tale (or is it tail?) as old as time, and Norah speaks candidly about developing intuition as an artist, powering through stage mishaps, and one hilarious meet-cute. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Live at the Bell House BK, Jordan and Michelle welcome internet sensation and host of the super viral "Recess Therapy," Julian Shapiro-Barnum (hold for applause!). Michelle’s toddler turns the tables when he R-E-A-D-S her during bedtime stories, Jordan perfectly times his edible kicking in to deliver his thesis on country music’s BLACK origins (FACTS Y’ALL - BIG FACTS!), and fresh from a break up with serial monogamy itself, Julian opens the floor for questions--he’s an open kids book, y’all!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Live from Brooklyn, Michelle and Jordan bow down to Black Hollywood Royalty, mother / daughter ICONS of the stage / screen, Jillian Hervey of "Lion Babe" and THE Vanessa Williams. Jordan delivers a convincing reason for NOT working with male trainers (i.e., unconfirmed whereabouts on Jan. 6), Michelle tells a cautionary tale for the front row seats at her future shows (the moral of the story—know your dosage!), Jillian shares how motherhood banished her inner critic and led to new heights as an artist, and Vanessa looks back on the powerful and the hilarious moments from her career—not to mention that long lost cassette of Prince demos (you gotta hear this!!!). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sound ALL the air horns!!! Jordan + Michelle are back and LIVE AF at Brooklyn’s Bell House, and this week they welcome to the stage actor / comedian / friend of the pod, Sydnee Washington. Michelle receives a full-on flower shower when she arrives fresh with not one but SEVEN NAACP nominations, Jordan shares hilarious / unsettling moments from a recent trip to Charleston (it was giving "Get Out," but those shrimp and grits tho!), and Sydnee revisits her twenties (literally last week!) to pluck a few gems of wisdom and realness. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Michelle and Jordan hit ALL the corners this week with author, activist, journalist, and media strategist, Raquel Willis. All is illuminated when Jordan (literal adult) reveals an early childhood hero, Michelle discusses the nuances of making requests of the service industry (it hits a little different at home!), and Raquel shares what it’s like to date as a visible and accomplished Black transgender woman (so many sweaty stans and chasers!!). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Jordan and Michelle bring out their bedazzled tambourines for triple threat (actor, director, producer!!!), Tasha Smith! Michelle arrives fresh from the billing panic room after waking up to no internet (autopay has entered the chat), Jordan comforts Michelle by singing his sonorous house cleaning spiritual, and Tasha shares why acknowledging all she's overcome motivates her to create JOY and LOVE—watch your step, she's dropping bars! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices