Sabbath Rest in a Chaotic World

How do we respond when what people think is happening differs from what is actually happening? In this episode of 2 Pastors 1 Calling, Fr. Brian and Pastor Chris explore perceptions, perspectives, opinions, and judgments—and how they shape our relationships.Through everyday examples and experiences in pastoral leadership, they discuss why we assume motives, how past experiences influence our reactions, and what it takes to understand another person’s perspective. They also reflect on making thoughtful decisions, communicating change, and addressing assumptions about pastors.The conversation invites us to ask questions before drawing conclusions, remain open to new information, and build trust through listening, honesty, and transparency. Understanding one another begins with recognizing that we may not have the whole story.

Season 3, Episode 1: “How Do We Talk About Our Differences?”Fr. Brian and Pastor Chris begin the new season with a question at the heart of their friendship: How can we talk honestly about our differences and still grow closer? They share how curiosity, careful listening, and a willingness to ask questions can turn a difficult conversation into a chance to understand someone better.Then they put that approach into practice, discussing Catholic and Protestant views on authority, salvation, and purgatory. They do not expect to settle every question in one episode. Their invitation is simpler: seek to understand the person in front of you, keep the conversation going, and let love shape the way you disagree.If you would like us to answer any questions on the podcast please email: [email protected].

As we wrap up Season 2 of 2 Pastors, One Calling, Pastor Chris, Fr. Brian, and Christen reflect on a question every Christian should ask: What is the one thing that could change everything?The conversation explores God's unconditional love, discovering our unique calling through Baptism, helping parents become the primary witnesses of faith in their families, and creating space to hear God's voice in the midst of life's busyness. They also discuss how churches can move from being places of comfort to communities of healing, why personal and spiritual growth are essential for leaders, and what gives them hope for the future of the Church.The episode concludes with a behind-the-scenes look at ideas for Season 3, including future conversations on evangelization, prayer, leadership, parenting, Christian unity, and living out our baptismal mission.Join us as we celebrate another season and look ahead to what God has in store. 

Podcast SynopsisIn this episode of 2 Pastors, One Calling, Fr. Brian and Pastor Chris are joined by Christian Aquino for an honest conversation about something every Christian, leader, parent, and disciple experiences: the feeling of coming up short.Together they explore perfectionism, fear of failure, anxiety about the future, and the temptation to define ourselves by our shortcomings. Through personal stories, ministry experiences, and reflections on Scripture, they discuss how God meets us not when we have everything together, but precisely in our weakness, uncertainty, and need.The conversation also explores the importance of community, the power of listening, discovering our God-given strengths, and learning to trust God's character more than our own performance. Whether you're struggling with expectations, leadership pressures, or simply wondering if you're doing enough, this episode offers encouragement, hope, and a reminder that God's grace is greater than our shortcomings.

Change happens all the time—but transition is what stretches us. In this episode, Fr. Brian and Pastor Chris explore how leaders can guide people through uncertainty, grief, vision, and growth as they embrace the new things God is doing.

In this episode of Two Pastors One Calling, Pastor Chris and Father Brian dive into the complicated reality of “dual relationships” in ministry—when pastors are not only spiritual leaders, but also friends, mentors, coworkers, and trusted confidants. Through honest conversation, they explore boundaries, expectations, trust, and the challenge of being both relational and responsible while caring for others. A candid look at the humanity behind pastoral leadership.

Welcome back friends.This week, we take on a topic that is tough for many people.  It is about taking what is called a Sabbath rest.  This is when we take one day a week, as God did when He created, to prepare for the next 6 days of work.  Resting like God did helps us heal, be restored, and prepare us for the next week.  Take a listen as we talk about how we try to rest in our chaotic world today.

This week, we discuss how we find support for ourselves and supporting those we lead.  We all need support.  As pastors, we need friends to help us decompress by talking and letting us be ourselves.  We also must trust those around us to carry the responsibility given to us as pastors as we wear many hats throughout the day, and sometines in the same meeting. 

Welcome to season 2.  This season, we will look at more practical things of being a pastor, which we hope to see how God works in the ordinary life.  We kick off this season with an episode about a day in the life of a pastor.  We talk about whether there really is a normal day, since we can experience the highs and lows of the human experience, and how God meets us in our own highs and lows.  We then discuss how our prayer lives help create the rule of life for us.

You see more clearly once the storm has passed.  The same is when we are discerning God's Hand in our lives.   This week, Pastor Chris and Fr. Brian discuss how we have understood God's Hand and guidance in our lives.  Through those moments of the greatest storms, we can look back and see where God was working.