Patient Zero

Taylor Swift has a message for the haters… and apparently, it involves a trip to Cleveland! This week, we're breaking down “Cleveland!” from The Life of a Showgirl Encore Songs, and there's a LOT more to this upbeat, cheeky love song than you might think!Is Taylor turning her harshest critics' own words against them? What's the significance of that exclamation point? And could Cleveland itself be the perfect metaphor for the way Travis Kelce loves Taylor?We're dissecting the lyrics, uncovering clever connections to some of Taylor’s other bops like “ME!,” “Blank Space,” and “Shake It Off,” and discussing why this might be one of Taylor's happiest, most unapologetic love songs yet. Plus, did Taylor really release a song about Cleveland just to get a privacy fence approved?! And of course, we're hearing from our favorite lobsters, including our one and only listener in Ohio (okay, maybe there's two), dreaming up a potential 13 Podcast tour, and tackling some hilarious listener questions!Love it or hate it, “Cleveland!” has us talking! Is this song finally getting the love it deserves, or are you still not convinced?Come for the Easter eggs, stay for the chaos. It's time to break down “Cleveland!”What did we miss? What would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to contact us!Contact the PodcastVoicemail: (689) 214-1313Email: [email protected]: @the13podcastTikTok: @the13podcastTwitter/X: @the13TSpodcastYouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan PodcastFollow the HostsAna – @anaszabo13Lacey – @laceygee13Amy – @amysnicholsNick – @heynickadamsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Swifties, we have officially celebrated 20 YEARS of Taylor Swift! But after all the excitement surrounding her debut album's 20th anniversary, we're left wondering… WHERE IS DEBUT (TAYLOR'S VERSION)?! And could something BIG be coming in November? We're celebrating two decades of Taylor Swift by looking back at the music, memories, and moments that turned us into the Swifties we are today. We share our Swiftie origin stories, remember the debut days of decoding hidden messages in lyric booklets, remember the era that changed it all for us… And we want to hear your memories too!But you know we can't celebrate Taylor without pulling out the clown makeup. 🤡We have a few important dates that stand out to Swifties this month.. It's the anniversary of Reputation, Meredith Grey's birthday, AND a date Swifties have been theorizing about for years. We're connecting some very interesting dots involving old Easter eggs, Taylor Nation, mysterious snakes, and the possibility of a Reputation or Debut surprise.PLUS, Taylor is returning to the CMA Awards this month for the first time in a decade! Could her return to country music's biggest stage be the perfect opportunity to announce something? We're discussing all the possibilities, including Debut (Taylor's Version), a 20th anniversary release, and what Taylor might have planned next.We also get into:✨ Taylor's emotional induction into the Nashville Songwriters Hall of Fame and the full-circle moments that made it so special.🐍 The Reputation, Karma, and Debut Easter eggs that have Swifties talking.🎀 Taylor's mysterious obsession with bows, infinity symbols, and what they could mean.🎬 The possibility of another Taylor Swift documentary that we're STILL not giving up on.Twenty years into her career, Taylor Swift is still keeping us guessing, and somehow we're more invested than ever!So tell us, Swifties: Are we getting Debut, Reputation, something completely unexpected… or are we clowning again? 🤡Grab your clown makeup, join the nostalgic conversation, and let's celebrate 20 years of Taylor Swift together!🎧 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast — made by Swifties, for Swifties. 💚What did we miss? What would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to contact us!Contact the PodcastVoicemail: (689) 214-1313Email: [email protected]: @the13podcastTikTok: @the13podcastTwitter/X: @the13TSpodcastYouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan PodcastFollow the HostsAna – @anaszabo13Lacey – @laceygee13Amy – @amysnicholsNick – @heynickadamsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift gave us four new songs on The Life of a Showgirl: The Encore, and we're kicking off our song-by-song breakdowns with "Patient Zero"!This song gets darker the more you listen, and naturally, we have LOTS of thoughts. There’s hidden vocals, clever double meanings, possible connections to Joe Alwyn, Sophie Turner, and some familiar Taylor Swift lyrics.. And we are dissecting it all!Plus, did Taylor hint at this song months before its release? Is that quote about the inspiration behind the song even real? And why does the bridge feel like an actual phone conversation?We also get into narcissistic relationships, share some personal stories, and discover a tiny detail in the song that gave us CHILLS.Grab your magnifying glass, Swifties. There's a lot to unpack, and we're just getting started!Next up: "Cleveland"! 🦞Call or text us: 689-214-1313What did we miss? What would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to contact us!Contact the PodcastVoicemail: (689) 214-1313Email: [email protected]: @the13podcastTikTok: @the13podcastTwitter/X: @the13TSpodcastYouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan PodcastFollow the HostsAna – @anaszabo13Lacey – @laceygee13Amy – @amysnicholsNick – @heynickadamsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift has been BUSY, and we've got a LOT of catching up to do! From her surprise performance at the Academy Museum Gala to her big night at the VMAs and surprise SNL appearance, Taylor has been everywhere lately. And you know what that means... time to clown and review all of the possibilities! We're talking about those two gorgeous blue dresses (1989? Debut? Something else?!), the Easter eggs that have us questioning everything, her incredible live performances, and whether all this activity could be leading to something even bigger.Plus, we finally get to talk about the Patient Zero music video, some very interesting celebrity interactions, and what might be coming next as we approach the 20th anniversary of Taylor's debut album.So clock in, grab your clown nose, and let's catch up on all things Taylor Swift!What do YOU think she's planning next? Call us at 689-214-1313 and let us know!What did we miss? What would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to contact us!Contact the PodcastVoicemail: (689) 214-1313Email: [email protected]: @the13podcastTikTok: @the13podcastTwitter/X: @the13TSpodcastYouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan PodcastFollow the HostsAna – @anaszabo13Lacey – @laceygee13Amy – @amysnicholsNick – @heynickadamsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We're handing the microphone over to YOU, our favorite lobsters! 🦞❤️It's a Crustacean Nation takeover, and we're catching up on your voicemails, emails, questions, and some pretty incredible episode suggestions!Could Taylor Swift be planning a return to her country roots? What songs would make Taylor's personal top five? And could the upcoming CMA Awards give us another clue about what's next for Debut (Taylor's Version)?We're talking Taylor Swift theories, unreleased songs, favorite podcast memories, some hilarious listener stories, and even an attempt at a geography lesson! From longtime Swifties to brand-new fans, we're reminded why this community is so special. And you might just inspire our next episode!Thank you for being part of our little corner of the Swiftie universe. We love our lobsters!Keep those voicemails, texts, and emails coming because we love hearing from you! 🦞💕Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan PodcastJoin the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13Contact the PodcastVoicemail: (689) 214-1313Email: [email protected]: @the13podcastTikTok: @the13podcastTwitter/X: @the13TSpodcastYouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan PodcastFollow the HostsAna – @anaszabo13Lacey – @laceygee13Amy – @amysnicholsNick – @heynickadamsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Four songs. Four hosts. Four different favorites. Somehow, we managed to disagree without even trying. 😂We’re ranking Patient Zero, Cleveland, Pink Clouding, and Babylon from Taylor Swift’s Encore… and somebody has to be fourth, even if we don’t like admitting it.Lacey is ready to defend Cleveland, Nick is going strictly off vibes, and Babylon has some of us dancing while others are crying. Plus, we get into the Pink Clouding/Tom Hiddleston theory and stumble into a Colin Farrell connection that we are absolutely choosing to make about ourselves. 🦞Listen, then tell us where we got it right… or very wrong.Recorded September 26, 2026, before we watched the Patient Zero music video. These are our first-impression rankings, and we reserve the right to change our minds!What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There’s tons of ways to reach us and we always like to hear from you!Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan PodcastJoin the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13Contact the PodcastVoicemail: (689) 214-1313Email: [email protected]: @the13podcastTikTok: @the13podcastTwitter/X: @the13TSpodcastYouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan PodcastFollow the HostsAna – @anaszabo13Lacey – @laceygee13Amy – @amysnicholsNick – @heynickadamsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Just when we thought we had Taylor Swift's next move figured out, she reminded us that we know absolutely nothing.The Life of a Showgirl: The Encore is officially here with four new songs, and naturally, we have questions. A lot of them.We're talking Patient Zero, Cleveland!, Pink Clouding and Babylon, the completely different Encore aesthetic, that mysterious third page, all the zeros, the Patient Zero music video clues and whether Taylor's masters announcement has secretly been giving us a roadmap this entire time.Then we get into the reaction to the new songs, why Cleveland! has Swifties so divided, and why maybe we all need to stop deciding how we feel about a Taylor Swift song after one listen.Plus, we revisit some suspicious old clues, somehow end up back at Karma, uncover an incredible Colin Farrell and Elizabeth Taylor connection… and one of us has been keeping a VERY big secret.Yeah. You're going to want to stay until the end.What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There’s tons of ways to reach us and we always like to hear from you!Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan PodcastJoin the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13Contact the PodcastVoicemail: (689) 214-1313Email: [email protected]: @the13podcastTikTok: @the13podcastTwitter/X: @the13TSpodcastYouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan PodcastFollow the HostsAna – @anaszabo13Lacey – @laceygee13Amy – @amysnicholsNick – @heynickadamsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift looked directly into the camera and told us what we’re looking for might be “hiding in plain sight.”So obviously, we handled that information calmly and rationally.Taylor’s surprise Emmy sketch with Mariska Hargitay sent Swifties straight back to the crime board, and somehow almost every theory is back in play. Debut. Reputation. Debutation. Karma. TS13. Even a possible Taylor’s Version documentary, SNL appearance, Sphere connection and more.We’re breaking down the mysterious phrase Taylor delivered herself, the November 10 connection, all those 2s and 13s, Aries, the vineyard, “hiding in plain sight,” and the clues that have us questioning whether Taylor is telling us exactly what comes next… or giving us the greatest red herring of all time.Grab your invisible red string. We have a case to solve.What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There’s tons of ways to reach us and we always like to hear from you!Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan PodcastJoin the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13Contact the PodcastVoicemail: (689) 214-1313Email: [email protected]: @the13podcastTikTok: @the13podcastTwitter/X: @the13TSpodcastYouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan PodcastFollow the HostsAna – @anaszabo13Lacey – @laceygee13Amy – @amysnicholsNick – @heynickadamsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift may technically only be the featured artist on Renegade, but let’s be honest... this feels like a Taylor Swift song.This week we're finally giving our persistent lovely lobsters what they have been asking for and that’s breaking down Big Red Machine's Renegade featuring Taylor Swift. And the deeper we get into these lyrics, the more brutally honest this song starts to feel.Was Taylor writing fictionally, or could Renegade have revealed something about what she was experiencing in her relationship at the time? We're talking anxiety, emotional baggage, trying to love someone who keeps pushing you away, the genius of “future history,” and that painfully direct question: is something really stopping you from loving me... or do you just not want to?Plus, crustation nation gives us a brilliant idea for a future episode involving where we can go next after The Life of a Showgirl… and our one listener from Ohio calls in on the defense. THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY BETTERHELP Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN.What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There’s tons of ways to reach us and we always like to hear from you!Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan PodcastJoin the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13Contact the PodcastVoicemail: (689) 214-1313Email: [email protected]: @the13podcastTikTok: @the13podcastTwitter/X: @the13TSpodcastYouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan PodcastFollow the HostsAna – @anaszabo13Lacey – @laceygee13Amy – @amysnicholsNick – @heynickadamsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You only get 13 songs to create your perfect Taylor Swift album. Sounds easy until you actually have to do it.This time, Amy and Lacey are taking on the challenge.. and apparently we had very different interpretations of the assignment.Amy created an entire emotional journey complete with acts, heartbreak, spiraling and healing. A true Female Rage: The Musical! Lacey heard “13 songs” and decided house rules applied, because why choose one Taylor song when you can make an Eras Tour Suprise Songs kind of mashup?!We’re sharing the songs we can never skip, defending some potentially controversial choices and realizing our perfect albums might reveal a little too much about us.Plus, listeners sent in their own versions, including one concept album that may have accidentally given us enough episode ideas to keep this podcast going forever.What 13 songs make your perfect Taylor Swift album?What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to reach us!💌 Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan PodcastJoin the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: 👉 station.page/13📲 Contact the Podcast 🎤 Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 📧 Email: [email protected] 📸 Instagram: @the13podcast 🎶 TikTok: @the13podcast 🐦 Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast ▶️ YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast👯 Follow the Hosts ✨ Ana – @anaszabo13 ✨ Lacey – @laceygee13 ✨ Amy – @amysnichols ✨ Nick – @heynickadamsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.