157. Trump Turmoil: Never Underestimate China

Influential economist Jim O’Neill tells Steph and Robert why a trade deal with the EU is more important to the UK then one with Trump, that it would be foolish to cut off trade and economic links with China, and how the government has to be more ambitions with its UK investments. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Visit: monzo.com/therestismoney Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert and Steph discuss Trump’s latest play to put tariffs on rare earth minerals, alongside the indefinite restrictions he’s put on Nvidia sending their H20 chips to China, in the latest acts of self-harm for America. Also, is the UK’s path to net zero undermining the competitiveness of British industry? And why does the UK government continue to refuse to invest in Great British growth prospects? Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Visit: monzo.com/therestismoney Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert explains how Trump is helping China and the EU while hurting America, what Trump’s dogma shares with the economically disastrous Soviet Union and how the US is on track for financial and fiscal Armageddon. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Visit: monzo.com/therestismoney Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert explains how the government’s decision to save British Steel is a massive change to its industrial policy, and a response to Trump, how the latest in Trump’s tariff U-turns just sows more confusion and why investors need to be more patriotic as the global economy is reconstructed. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Visit: www.monzo.com/therestismoney Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

President Trump believes a trade war with America’s biggest supplier and massive creditor, China, will be more damaging for China than for America. Steph and Robert think he may be dangerously wrong. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Vist: monzo.com/business-banking goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Is this America's Brexit? Robert and Steph explain why Trump's pause on the more extreme tariffs isn't a return to free trade and why the economic war between China and the US is like a nuclear one. Will anyone benefit or is it all bad news? Could the UK be in for cheaper prices? One big uncertainty is what Trump plans for the big drug companies. Steph and Robert dive in. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Visit: monzo.com/business-banking Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What are the similarities between the current economic crisis and the ‘Lehman Weekend’? Will global investors soon start dumping the dollar? Robert and Steph discuss. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Visit https://monzo.com/business-banking Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How long till markets stabilise? How crazy is Trump’s formula for calculating tariffs? What are the big dangers that lie ahead? Robert and Steph tell you what you need to know about Trump’s market mayhem. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Visit https://monzo.com/business-banking Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Steph and Robert speak to Zia Yusuf, Chairman of Reform UK to discuss his controversial role as a British Muslim running an anti-immigration party, why he won’t rule out merging with the Tories and whether Reform actually have some serious economic plans for the country. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Steph and Robert speak to Richard Hughes, head of the Office for Budget Responsibility, who has run scenarios on what will happen to the economy as Donald Trump imposes tariffs and the world responds. He also discusses whether the OBR has too much influence over government and stultifies growth, and how Rachel Reeves’ fiscal “headroom” may be wiped out again very shortly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices