Joe vs Carole | Kate McKinnon on Becoming Carole Baskin | S2-E12

At a time when we’re debating where policing is going, we’re going to tell you where the police came from. Guided by Peabody award-winning host Chenjerai Kumanyika, Empire City will provide the first accessible narrative history of the American police and its place in popular culture. Who are the police? And why were police departments created in the first place? To find answers, we’re going to tell the origin story of the largest police force in the world: The NYPD. We begin in the late 1800’s at a moment when the entire police force was on trial. It’s the biggest corruption scandal in the history of the NYPD, and it all plays out like a high stakes courtroom drama. What follows is the action-packed account of how the NYPD got to this point and what happened next. It involves Black abolitionists fighting slave patrols in the courts of Gotham; two rival police forces duking it out for power at City Hall; the origins of the true crime genre; and how the NYPD spread their tactics worldwide.Listen to Empire City wherever you get your podcasts: Wondery.fm/Empire_City.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jennifer Portman speaks to two experts with very different views of Denise. Former FBI profiler Candice DeLong, host of Killer Psyche, and Professor Jane Monckton-Smith, a leading researcher into coercive control.Listen to exclusive bonus episodes of Over My Dead Body exclusively and ad-free by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/over-my-dead-body/ now.Support us by supporting our sponsors!BetterHelp: Try BetterHelp.com/OverMy to get 10% off your first month!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The prosecution lay out their version of what happened to Mike Williams all those years ago. But can their star witness be trusted?Listen to exclusive bonus episodes of Over My Dead Body exclusively and ad-free by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/over-my-dead-body/ now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

As prosecutors close in, a desperate plot takes shape in prison.Listen to exclusive bonus episodes of Over My Dead Body exclusively and ad-free by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/over-my-dead-body/ now.Please support us by supporting our sponsors!BetterHelp: Visit BetterHelp.com/OverMy today to get 10% off your first month!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Denise has a terrifying encounter. It leads to a choice she never expected to face.If you or someone you know is struggling with mental health or domestic violence, here are some additional resources: National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 1-800-273-8255 National Alliance on Mental Illness: 1-800-950-6264National Domestic Violence Hotline call 1-800-799-7233Listen to exclusive bonus episodes of Over My Dead Body exclusively and ad-free by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/over-my-dead-body/ now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Mike’s wife Denise begins to move on with her life, but a friend from her past makes an unexpected appearance.If you or someone you know is experiencing intimate partner violence, here are some additional resources. For the National Domestic Violence Hotline call 1-800-799-7233 or visit thehotline.org to chat with someone live at any time. Listen to exclusive bonus episodes of Over My Dead Body exclusively and ad-free by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/over-my-dead-body/ now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A fisherman makes a disturbing discovery. Could it hold the key to what happened to Mike?Listen to exclusive bonus episodes of Over My Dead Body exclusively and ad-free by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/over-my-dead-body/ now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Mike and Denise Williams have a picture perfect life. Until one cold December day Mike goes hunting, and never returns. Now the authorities battle the elements to find him before it’s too late.Listen to exclusive bonus episodes of Over My Dead Body exclusively and ad-free by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/over-my-dead-body/ now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Robert Moor talks with Etan Frankel, the Executive Producer, showrunner, and writer, tasked with adapting “Joe vs. Carole” for the screen. The pair talk about class dynamics, what Gossip Girl, Friday Night Lights and Shameless have in common with Joe Exotic and how brie and champagne drew Etan to Carole Baskin. “Joe vs. Carole” the TV series based on the second season of Over My Dead Body is now out on Peacock.Listen to exclusive bonus episodes of Over My Dead Body exclusively and ad-free by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/over-my-dead-body/ now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Robert Moor talks with actor Kate McKinnon about what drew her to the role of Carole Baskin. The two discuss how she found humor in such a dark story and what makes a cat person a cat person. "Joe vs. Carole” the TV series based on the second season of Over My Dead Body is now out on Peacock.Listen to exclusive bonus episodes of Over My Dead Body exclusively and ad-free by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/over-my-dead-body/ now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.