The AI Movement with Brooke

What if Microsoft Office and Google Workspace were redesigned from the ground up for AI? Rohit Patel left his role as a director at Meta Superintelligence Labs after 8 years to launch Ndoc.ai, an AI-native workspace designed to bring spreadsheets, documents, presentations, and analysis into one connected experience.But his bigger concern goes beyond productivity. As AI takes on more of our work, how do we track where the information comes from and how decisions are made?We sit down during the Miami AI Summit to explore the thinking behind Ndoc, how he uses AI agents in his personal life, and why even someone who has helped develop advanced AI models doesn't trust them to do everything.If you're tired of moving between AI chats, spreadsheets, and presentations to get your work done, or you're curious about what the next generation of business software could look like, this conversation is for you.In this conversation:Why Rohit believes traditional office software needs to be redesigned for AIHow Ndoc connects analysis, documents, and presentations while keeping the underlying information traceableHow Rohit builds personal AI agents for everyday tasks and why not everything needs an agentWhere AI-generated code still falls short, even for experienced developersThe standard he uses to decide whether an AI product is worth releasingWhy transparency matters when AI becomes part of critical business decisionsPaid partnership: This episode is sponsored by Omnisend, an email and SMS marketing platform for e-commerce businesses. Connect your Omnisend account to ChatGPT or Claude to analyze marketing performance, review campaigns, and get answers without manually exporting reports between platforms.Explore Omnisend's AI integrationsAbout RohitRohit Patel is an AI researcher and founder of Ndoc. He spent eight years at Meta, most recently as a director at Meta Superintelligence Labs, where his work included AI model evaluation, reinforcement learning, and post-training.He also holds a PhD in game theory. His latest venture, Ndoc, is focused on reimagining how people create and share knowledge using AI.Connect with RohitExplore Ndoc and request accessRohit's websiteAbout the Miami AI Summit: Hosted by eMerge Americas, the Miami AI Summit brings together leading voices in artificial intelligence to explore how AI is being developed, adopted, and scaled across industries.Learn more: https://emergeamericas.com/ai/Timestamps00:00 A different future for office software03:02 Why Rohit started Ndoc after leaving Meta05:45 Reimagining spreadsheets and AI collaboration07:04 Keeping AI-generated work traceable09:50 How Rohit uses custom AI agents13:27 When you need an agent and when you don't15:22 Where AI-generated code still falls short17:18 What makes an AI product worth using21:30 The risk of letting AI filter business decisionsListener offerSave 5% on Leela Quantum Tech with code BROOKE. Affiliate disclosure: I may earn a commission if you purchase through this link, at no additional cost to you.Explore Leela Quantum TechThe AI Movement With Brooke is a weekly podcast exploring how AI is changing the way we build, create and make decisions.Follow on LinkedIn: Brooke GramerWebsite: TheAIMovementPodcast.comDisclaimer: This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute professional advice. Guest opinions are their own. Content is provided without guarantees of accuracy or results. Always verify information before acting. To the fullest extent permitted by law, Brooke Gramer, The AI Movement, and EmpowerFlow Strategies LLC disclaim liability arising from reliance on this content.

Have you noticed how easy it is to recognize an email written with ChatGPT? Lauren Mushro is researching something bigger: whether AI is starting to change the words we use, and what happens to local dialects when language models tend to favor the most predictable language.It's called "linguistic flattening," and it raises an interesting question: Are we starting to learn language from AI instead of just teaching AI our language?Lauren is the Responsible AI Human-Centered Design Lead at BMO and an AI ethics professor at CUNY. We talk about how AI is affecting language, why critical thinking matters more as we rely on these tools, and how smaller AI models could help preserve the expressions that larger models overlook.In this conversationWhy ChatGPT and other language models can make writing sound increasingly similarWhat linguistic flattening could mean for slang, regional dialects, and languages with less training dataThe difference between using AI to learn and losing skills by relying on it too muchWhy AI companies scan physical books for model training, and the questions this raises about copyrightThe dead internet theory and how AI-generated content is changing what we trust onlineWhy Lauren is building a small language model to better recognize Caribbean SpanglishAbout LaurenLauren Mushro, PhD, is the Responsible AI Human-Centered Design Lead at Bank of Montreal (BMO) and an Adjunct Associate Professor in AI Ethics at the City University of New York. She holds a PhD in Modern Languages from Johns Hopkins University and researches how AI systems affect language, culture, and the way we communicate.Connect with LaurenWebsite: https://laurenmushro.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenmushroMentioned in this episodeCenter for AI Safety: https://safe.ai/Machine Gods with Casey Newton and Kevin Roose: https://machinegods.fm/Shae O. Omonijo, Critical Thinking in the Age of AI: https://www.instagram.com/iamshaeo/PartnerPaid partnership: This episode includes paid promotional content from Omnisend.Omnisend helps ecommerce brands manage email and SMS marketing. By connecting Omnisend to ChatGPT or Claude, you can ask questions about campaign performance and get a clearer picture of what needs your attention.Learn more about Omnisend: https://your.omnisend.com/HOWAITimestamps00:00 Introduction: How AI Is Changing the Way We Think04:11 Responsible AI and the Impact on Language07:21 AI in Education and the Critical Thinking Crisis12:49 Why AI Companies Are Scanning Physical Books17:59 Linguistic Flattening: Is AI Changing Our Language?22:04 What Should We Stop Outsourcing to AI?25:04 The Dead Internet Theory and AI-Generated Content32:19 Final Takeaways and Building AI for SpanglishListener offerSave 5% on Leela Quantum Tech with code BROOKE: https://leelaq.com/?ref=BrookeAffiliate disclosure: I may earn a commission if you purchase through this link, at no additional cost to you.The AI Movement With Brooke is a weekly podcast exploring how AI is changing the way we build, create and make decisions.Follow on LinkedIn: Brooke GramerWebsite: TheAIMovementPodcast.comDisclaimer: This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute professional advice. Guest opinions are their own. Content is provided without guarantees of accuracy or results. Always verify information before acting. To the fullest extent permitted by law, Brooke Gramer, The AI Movement, and EmpowerFlow Strategies LLC disclaim liability arising from reliance on this content.

Krista is the founder and CEO of Authentic Audience, a full-service digital advertising agency, and the creator of Authentic Business Club. In our conversation, she shares how she is turning years of marketing and coaching experience into AI tools, from Mae, her morning AI executive, to KJ AI, the coach trained on hundreds of hours of her coaching, and her five-role AI Marketing Team using Claude Skills.We get into how to train AI with your own context, where to keep your judgment in the process, and whether AI is creating more room for meaningful work or simply more pressure to do more.Paid partnership: This episode includes paid promotional content from Omnisend.Omnisend partnershipOmnisend is an email and SMS marketing platform used by more than 200,000 brands. By connecting Omnisend's MCP directly with ChatGPT or Claude, you can review campaign performance, uncover what needs attention, create client-ready reports, and take action without manually moving data between tools.Learn more about OmnisendIn this conversationHow Krista uses about 2,000 hours of her work to inform KJ AIWhy KJ AI is designed to coach and review, not write everything for youHow Mae helps Krista sort her attention and decide what needs her that dayWhat Krista’s five AI Marketing Team tools do, from copywriting to ad supportHow AI can speed up reporting while leaving creative direction and judgment with peopleHow to use AI to expand your capacity without losing your voiceConnect with Krista on InstagramKrista’s AI Marketing Team OfferGet 50% off Krista’s Five AI coworkers trained on her frameworks with code BROOKE50:https://www.authenticbusinessclub.co/ai-marketing-teamTimestamps00:00 Turning Krista’s expertise into AI tools04:00 Where AI creates leverage for a founder07:46 Mae, the morning AI executive14:11 The five roles on Krista’s AI Marketing Team20:56 Omnisend sponsored message29:30 AI and paid advertising35:20 AI, pressure, and sustainable growth40:26 Krista’s closing advice for foundersListener offerSave 5% on Leela Quantum Tech with code BROOKE:https://leelaq.com/?ref=BrookeAffiliate link: I earn a commission if you purchase through my link, at no additional cost to you.The AI Movement With Brooke is a weekly podcast exploring how AI is changing the way we build, create and make decisions.Follow on LinkedIn: Brooke GramerWebsite: TheAIMovementPodcast.comDisclaimer: This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute professional advice. Guest opinions are their own. Content is provided without guarantees of accuracy or results. Always verify information before acting. To the fullest extent permitted by law, Brooke Gramer, The AI Movement, and EmpowerFlow Strategies LLC disclaim liability arising from reliance on this content.

Chandler Malone is the CEO of Bootup Studios, an AI-powered startup studio built for early-stage entrepreneurs. We get into how first-time founders can use AI agents to develop an idea, find customers, access funding opportunities, and handle more of the day-to-day execution of building a business. AI is making it possible for one founder or a very small team to do work that once required far more people, but knowing what to build and what not to hand off to AI still matters.If you have been thinking about starting a business, building a side income stream, or figuring out how much more you can do with AI and a smaller team, this episode is for you.In this conversation:How AI agents can help founders move from idea to executionWhat Bootup Studios was built to solve for first-time entrepreneursWhy you do not need to be technical to start using AI in your businessHow vibe coding changed the speed of building and testing new productsWhy customer conversations, relationships, and founder judgment should not be outsourced to AIChandler's approach to startup funding, grants, customer revenue, and venture capitalWhy AI may lead to more people building small businesses of their ownConnect with ChandlerBootup Studios: https://www.bootupstudios.aiChandler Malone on LinkedIn Mentioned in this episodeClaude Code, v0 by Vercel, Composio, Y Combinator Startup School, Paul Graham, SynthesiaPartnersPaid partnership: This episode includes paid promotional content from Omnisend.Omnisend is an email and SMS marketing platform used by more than 200,000 brands. By connecting Omnisend's MCP directly with ChatGPT or Claude, you can review campaign performance, uncover what needs attention, create client-ready reports, and take action without manually moving data between tools.Learn more about OmnisendListener offerSave 5% on Leela Quantum Tech with code BROOKE: https://leelaq.com/?ref=BrookeI earn a commission if you purchase through my link, at no additional cost to you.Timestamps00:00 Chandler Malone and Bootup Studios 03:51 Building an AI operating system for entrepreneurs 05:11 Who Bootup Studios is built for 08:02 Starting a business without a technical background 12:38 Vibe coding and building a product faster 20:02 Startup funding, relationships, grants, and VC 27:03 Why AI could create a new wave of small businesses 34:19 Chandler's advice for starting something of your ownThe AI Movement With Brooke is a weekly podcast exploring how AI is changing the way we build, create and make decisions.Follow on LinkedIn: Brooke GramerWebsite: TheAIMovementPodcast.comDisclaimer: This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute professional advice. Guest opinions are their own. Content is provided without guarantees of accuracy or results. Always verify information before acting. To the fullest extent permitted by law, Brooke Gramer, The AI Movement, and EmpowerFlow Strategies LLC disclaim liability arising from reliance on this content.

Paid partnership: This episode includes paid promotional content from Omnisend.AI adoption can save a team hours without improving business results. After over a decade in marketing, Bernard Meyer now leads AI operations at Omnisend, despite not coming from a technical background. He explains why teams need to measure AI by the outcomes they want, then test whether their AI workflows deliver. We chat about making AI a daily habit, where human judgment still matters, and what changes when e-commerce teams connect Omnisend to AI assistants. If you're deciding how to bring AI into your own work, this is a practical look at what effective adoption takes.In this conversation:- Why Omnisend shifted from tracking hours saved to measuring business outcomes- How AI helped the sales team move from 25% to 100% of follow-up emails sent within 24 hours, with people reviewing before sending- Why teams need to test AI workflows before putting them into use- Where creative work still depends on human judgment- What Omnisend's MCP connection with AI assistants makes possible- Why Bernard sees building as one of the best ways to learn AI- How AI can help or hurt the connection between a business and its customersPartnerOmnisend is an email and SMS marketing platform used by more than 200,000 brands. By connecting Omnisend’s MCP directly with ChatGPT or Claude, you can review campaign performance, uncover what needs attention, create client-ready reports, and take action without manually moving data between tools.Learn more about Omnisend. About BernardBernard Meyer is Omnisend's AI Operations Manager, where he leads AI adoption and builds workflows and automations across the company. Before moving into AI operations, he spent more than 12 years in marketing, communications, and content.Connect with Bernard on LinkedInTimestamps00:00 Bernard's move from marketing to AI operations03:18 Making AI a daily habit07:07 AI-assisted sales follow-up09:13 Measuring business outcomes, not hours saved11:00 Testing AI workflows before launch13:21 Where creative work still needs human judgment16:08 Connecting Omnisend to AI assistants with MCP23:09 Building as a way to learn AI27:13 AI and real customer relationshipsListener offerSave 5% on Leela Quantum Tech with code BROOKE:https://leelaq.com/?ref=BrookeI earn a commission if you purchase through my link, at no additional cost to you.The AI Movement With Brooke is a weekly podcast exploring how AI is changing the way we build, create and make decisions.Follow on LinkedIn: Brooke GramerWebsite: TheAIMovementPodcast.comDisclaimer: This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute professional advice. Guest opinions are their own. Content is provided without guarantees of accuracy or results. Always verify information before acting. To the fullest extent permitted by law, Brooke Gramer, The AI Movement, and EmpowerFlow Strategies LLC disclaim liability arising from reliance on this content.

When someone asks AI which business to choose, what gives it a reason to recommend yours? PR strategist Gloria Chou joins me to explain why she sees credible third-party coverage as an increasingly important part of AI visibility. Her argument: getting attention is only part of the job. Businesses also need evidence of their expertise beyond their own websites.We explore how podcast interviews and editorial mentions can contribute to that credibility, plus how small businesses can approach PR without a large agency budget. Gloria also shares how she uses AI behind the scenes to spend less time on repetitive work and more time serving her clients.If you're wondering where to focus your marketing as search habits change, this conversation offers a practical place to start.In this conversationWhat Gloria means by "trust signals" and why she prioritizes consistent media coverageWhy smaller, relevant publications belong in your PR strategyHow she uses Perplexity to research timely story angles and develop a first pitchWhere Claude and ChatGPT fit into her workflow, and why she edits before sending anythingHow she's adapting her PR program to help clients move from learning to taking actionThe work she keeps for herself, including relationships and decisions that need her judgmentAbout GloriaGloria Chou is an award-winning PR strategist, AI visibility expert, and host of the Small Business PR Podcast. She has helped hundreds of founders and small businesses earn media coverage without relying on large agencies or insider connections.Connect with GloriaExplore Gloria's work and free PR masterclass: https://www.gloriachoupr.com/Shop Small Business Guide: https://gloriachoupr.com/shopsmallbizguideListener offerSave 5% on Leela Quantum Tech with code BROOKE: https://leelaq.com/?ref=BrookeI earn a commission if you purchase through my link, at no additional cost to you.The AI Movement With Brooke is a weekly podcast exploring how AI is changing the way we build, create and make decisions.Follow on LinkedIn: Brooke GramerWebsite: TheAIMovementPodcast.comDisclaimer: This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute professional advice. Guest opinions are their own. Content is provided without guarantees of accuracy or results. Always verify information before acting. To the fullest extent permitted by law, Brooke Gramer, The AI Movement, and EmpowerFlow Strategies LLC disclaim liability arising from reliance on this content.

Ximena Paul is the CEO and co-founder of Nala, an AI-powered HR platform focused on performance management, talent reviews, succession planning, and workforce planning. We talk about how AI could make employee feedback more useful, why quiet high performers may become easier to see, and how the manager's job changes when AI takes over more of the process work.As AI gets better at tracking performance and spotting patterns across a company, it may start changing who gets promoted at work. Ximena believes AI can help make talent decisions more data-informed, but the final call still needs to belong to people.  If you manage people, lead a team, or are thinking about what makes someone valuable at work now, this episode gives you a clearer way to think about what good leadership looks like as AI becomes part of the workplace.In this conversation: How AI can make employee reviews less dependent on one manager's opinion  Why high performers can get overlooked when visibility matters more than results  What managers need to get better at as AI handles more process work  Why Ximena believes AI should inform talent decisions, not make them  How companies are starting to plan for teams made up of people and AI agents  Why workforce planning is shifting from fixed roles toward skills Connect with XimenaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ximena-paul/Learn more about Nala, the AI Powered Talent Management platform serving organizations across the U.S., Latin America, and Europe at Nalarocks.comMentioned in this episode AI-powered performance reviews, People analytics, Workforce planning, Skills-based talent planning, AI agents in the workplaceStay connected with The AI MovementThe AI Movement Podcast explores how AI is changing the work we do and what we choose to build next. Follow the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify for new conversations each week.Listener offerSave 5% on Leela Quantum Tech with code BROOKE.Affiliate disclosure: I may earn a commission if you purchase through this link, at no additional cost to you.The AI Movement With Brooke is a weekly podcast exploring how AI is changing the way we build, create and make decisions.Follow on LinkedIn: Brooke GramerWebsite: TheAIMovementPodcast.comDisclaimer: This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute professional advice. Guest opinions are their own. Content is provided without guarantees of accuracy or results. Always verify information before acting. To the fullest extent permitted by law, Brooke Gramer, The AI Movement, and EmpowerFlow Strategies LLC disclaim liability arising from reliance on this content.

After experiencing three pregnancy losses, Melissa Ablett-Jordaan couldn't stop thinking about the support she wished existed. She eventually left her COO role and founded Sibyl, an AI companion designed to support women through pregnancy loss. We talk about becoming a first-time founder and the responsibility of building something people may turn to during a deeply vulnerable moment.Recorded live at eMerge Americas 2026, this conversation goes inside the decisions behind Sibyl. I ask Melissa what "clinically grounded" means beyond the marketing language, how she approaches sensitive data, and where she draws the line between AI support and professional care.If you've spotted a problem through your own life experience but aren't sure you're qualified to build a business around it, her founder story is worth hearing!In this conversationHow hundreds of conversations with women and care providers helped shape the productWhy Sibyl draws on a knowledge library developed with doctors and psychologistsHow Melissa is designing boundaries that encourage users to take breaks from the appThe differences she's noticed between building a company in the Netherlands and the U.S.About MelissaMelissa Ablett-Jordaan is the founder of Sibyl and former Chief Operating Officer of Cambridge Innovation Center, where she helped grow the team from 50 to 300 people. An American based in the Netherlands, she had experience scaling companies but had never worked with AI before starting Sibyl.Explore Sibyl:https://www.sibyl.care/Stay connected with The AI MovementThe AI Movement Podcast explores how AI is changing the work we do and what we choose to build next. Follow the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify for new conversations each week.Listener offerSave 5% on Leela Quantum Tech with code BROOKE.Affiliate disclosure: I may earn a commission if you purchase through this link, at no additional cost to you.The AI Movement With Brooke is a weekly podcast exploring how AI is changing the way we build, create and make decisions.Follow on LinkedIn: Brooke GramerWebsite: TheAIMovementPodcast.comDisclaimer: This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute professional advice. Guest opinions are their own. Content is provided without guarantees of accuracy or results. Always verify information before acting. To the fullest extent permitted by law, Brooke Gramer, The AI Movement, and EmpowerFlow Strategies LLC disclaim liability arising from reliance on this content.

How does an enterprise move from experimenting with AI to building it into the way the company actually operates? CMO Nicole Baer shares what that process looked like behind the scenes, from what she calls AI "recess" to a more focused enterprise AI adoption plan.Recorded live at eMerge Americas 2026, Nicole Baer joins Brooke to share how Carta was turning individual AI experiments into systems its employees and customers could use.Nicole also explains Carta's work on what it calls the first agentic ERP for private markets. ERP stands for enterprise resource planning, a connected system for managing a company's core operations. She shares how the acquisitions of Accelex for LP reporting and ListAlpha for CRM helped Carta bring more private-market workflows into one platform.If your company is trying to turn individual AI experiments into systems an entire team can use, this conversation gives you a useful look at what that shift requires.In this conversationHow Accelex and ListAlpha fit Carta's agentic ERP for private marketsHow Carta introduced Claude Enterprise and trained marketers to build their own skills and agentsWhy Carta tests an AI vendor against one deep use case before expanding itHow AirOps, Evidenza, and Storydoc fit into Carta's marketing stackWhat Carta Change Agents does for customers using Carta's Claude pluginsWhy curiosity is no longer enough when interviewing for a marketing roleHow content engineering, marketing engineering, and go-to-market engineering are changing traditional jobsAbout NicoleNicole Baer is the Chief Marketing Officer of Diligent. At the time of this interview, she served as Chief Marketing Officer of Carta, where she led global marketing as the company expanded its platform for founders, investors, and private-market organizations. Her previous leadership experience includes roles at Logitech and Zendesk.Connect with NicoleConnect with Nicole on LinkedInExplore CartaStay connected with The AI MovementThe AI Movement Podcast explores what AI is changing beyond the technology itself: how we build businesses, lead teams, define our value, make ethical decisions, and navigate the future of work.Follow The AI Movement Podcast on Apple Podcasts and Spotify so you don’t miss a new conversation.Listener offerSave 5% on Leela Quantum Tech with code BROOKE.Affiliate disclosure: I may earn a commission if you purchase through this link, at no additional cost to you.The AI Movement With Brooke is a weekly podcast exploring how AI is changing the way we build, create and make decisions.Follow on LinkedIn: Brooke GramerWebsite: TheAIMovementPodcast.comDisclaimer: This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute professional advice. Guest opinions are their own. Content is provided without guarantees of accuracy or results. Always verify information before acting. To the fullest extent permitted by law, Brooke Gramer, The AI Movement, and EmpowerFlow Strategies LLC disclaim liability arising from reliance on this content.

Noelle Russell, Founder and Chief AI Officer of the AI Leadership Institute and former AI leader at Microsoft and Amazon Alexa, joins me to break down what responsible AI leadership looks like as companies move beyond experimentation and begin building more autonomous AI systems. Recorded live at eMerge Americas 2026, this conversation explores why your values should be built into the AI you use, what organizations should consider before automating more of their work, and why clarity of thought may be one of the most valuable skills we can develop right now.In this conversation:Why Noelle compares a new AI system to a baby tigerWhat constitutional AI means and how it keeps systems aligned with your valuesWhy companies should evaluate value, risk, and complexity before choosing an AI use caseHow security, accuracy, and trust determine whether an AI pilot succeedsWhat founders and leaders should think carefully about before automatingWhy people may become less receptive to AI salespeople and relationship buildersHow custom GPTs and focused AI systems can solve specific business problemsWhy clarity of thought matters more than technical experience when building with AIAbout NoelleNoelle Russell is a multi-award-winning AI executive, entrepreneur, keynote speaker, bestselling author, and Founder and Chief AI Officer of the AI Leadership Institute.She is a five-time Microsoft AI MVP and was named the number one agentic AI leader in 2025. Noelle has led teams at NPR, Microsoft, IBM, AWS, and Amazon Alexa and is the author of Scaling Responsible AI and Custom GPTs.Connect with NoelleLearn more about Noelle RussellExplore the AI Leadership InstituteMentioned in this episodeConstitutional AI, Reinforcement Learning, AI Safety systems, System PromptingEU AI Act for Global NationalsMarbelism Agents, Custom GPTs, Claude Skills, and Google GemsIf you are excited about what AI makes possible but do not want to lose the trust, relationships, or values behind your work, this episode is for you.Explore eMerge Americas I’ll be attending the Miami AI Summit. Learn more and register to join me there.Stay connected with The AI MovementThe AI Movement Podcast, formerly How I AI, looks at what AI is changing beyond the technology itself: how we define our value, build businesses, lead, create, make ethical decisions, and ultimately how this shift is reshaping work, culture, and the lives we are choosing to build.Listener offerSave 5% on Leela Quantum Tech with code BROOKE. Affiliate disclosure: I may earn a commission if you purchase through this link, at no extra cost to you.The AI Movement With Brooke is a weekly podcast exploring how AI is changing the way we build, create and make decisions.Follow on LinkedIn: Brooke GramerWebsite: TheAIMovementPodcast.comDisclaimer: This podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute professional advice. Guest opinions are their own. Content is provided without guarantees of accuracy or results. Always verify information before acting. To the fullest extent permitted by law, Brooke Gramer, The AI Movement, and EmpowerFlow Strategies LLC disclaim liability arising from reliance on this content.