Beyond the Veil: When Chad Met Lori and the Dream of Immortality

In this never-before seen or heard podcast, Heather Daybell, Chad Daybell's sister-in-law, takes Lauren Matthias to her property and shows Lauren what happened when Julie Rowe and Chad Daybell had a vision of tent city. Join Hidden True Crime for an exclusive journey through Chad Daybell's trial, from its inception to its conclusion. Host Lauren Matthias, a seasoned courtroom observer, provides daily updates via lunch lives on YouTube and comprehensive summaries right here on Hidden: A True Crime Podcast.Lauren Matthias, a former television reporter with a decade of experience, and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a respected criminal psychologist, bring their expertise to Hidden True Crime. They have closely followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. In 2020, they launched their first season: 'Beyond the Veil,' a psychological exploration of the doomsday murders and self-proclaimed prophet.A podcast that started at their dinner table has now become the dynamic husband-and-wife duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, delving into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrimeOur Sponsors:* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: www.armoire.style* Check out Badlands Ranch and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: badlandsranch.com* Check out My Life in a Book and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: * Check out Ro Body: ro.co/HIDDEN* Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: https://www.rosettastone.com/* Get 15% off your order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode, we're delving into the powerful testimonies of Kay Woodcock, Sheila Daybell, and Heather Daybell on May 2, 2024, Day 15 of Chad Daybell's Trial.Join Hidden True Crime for an exclusive journey through Chad Daybell's trial, from its inception to its conclusion. Host Lauren Matthias, a seasoned courtroom observer, provides daily updates via lunch lives on YouTube and comprehensive summaries right here on Hidden: A True Crime Podcast.Lauren Matthias, a former television reporter with a decade of experience, and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a respected criminal psychologist, bring their expertise to Hidden True Crime. They have closely followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. In 2020, they launched their first season: 'Beyond the Veil,' a psychological exploration of the doomsday murders and self-proclaimed prophet.A podcast that started at their dinner table has now become the dynamic husband-and-wife duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, delving into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrimeOur Sponsors:* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: www.armoire.style* Check out Badlands Ranch and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: badlandsranch.com* Check out My Life in a Book and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: * Check out Ro Body: ro.co/HIDDEN* Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: https://www.rosettastone.com/* Get 15% off your order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This episode is a compilation of trial recaps posted on YouTube each day during lunch breaks from day 10 to day 13. We heard from multiple law enforcement agencies, Chad cried in court, John Prior shamed Tammy Daybell’s body, and so much more. I was outside the Ada County Courthouse, so the audio isn’t perfect, but you can hear everything being said. Join Hidden True Crime as we follow Chad Daybell's trial from beginning to end. Host Lauren Matthias is in the courtroom daily, doing lunch lives on YouTube and summarizing each day and week right here on Hidden: A True Crime Podcast.Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade, and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. Lauren and her husband John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season: 'Beyond the Veil' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet.A podcast that started at their dinner table has now become the dynamic husband-and-wife duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, delving into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrimeOur Sponsors:* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: www.armoire.style* Check out Badlands Ranch and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: badlandsranch.com* Check out My Life in a Book and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: * Check out Ro Body: ro.co/HIDDEN* Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: https://www.rosettastone.com/* Get 15% off your order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

A HIDDEN TRUE CRIME COLLABORATION WITH MORMON STORIES PODCAST with Host John Dehlin and Lauren Matthias, as well as Lori Vallow's cousin Megan Conner with Midlife RevolutionJoin Hidden True Crime as we follow Chad Daybell's trial beginning to end. Host Lauren Matthias is in the courtroom every day, doing lunch lives on YouTube and summarizing each day and week right here on Hidden: A True Crime Podcast.LAUREN MATTHIAS was a television reporter for a decade, and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. Lauren and her husband John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season: 'Beyond the Veil' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet. A podcast that started at their dinner table has now turned into the dynamic husband and wife duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, delving into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming at Patreon member at Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrimeOur Sponsors:* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: www.armoire.style* Check out Badlands Ranch and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: badlandsranch.com* Check out My Life in a Book and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: * Check out Ro Body: ro.co/HIDDEN* Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: https://www.rosettastone.com/* Get 15% off your order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

On Tuesday, photos of Tammy Daybell were shown to the jury and the Coroner, Brenda Dye, testified along with emergency personal and first responders that came to the scene that morning. The 911 call was played on October 19th when Chad called to say he found his wife dead. Our interviews with Heather Daybell are sourced in this podcast. Listen to Heather Daybell's full three-part interview with us: PART ONEPART TWOPART THREEJoin Hidden True Crime as we follow Chad Daybell's trial beginning to end. Host Lauren Matthias is in the courtroom every day, doing lunch lives on YouTube and summarizing each day and week right here on Hidden: A True Crime Podcast.LAUREN MATTHIAS was a television reporter for a decade, and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. Lauren and her husband John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season: 'Beyond the Veil' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet. A podcast that started at their dinner table has now turned into the dynamic husband and wife duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, delving into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming at Patreon member at Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrimeOur Sponsors:* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: www.armoire.style* Check out Badlands Ranch and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: badlandsranch.com* Check out My Life in a Book and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: * Check out Ro Body: ro.co/HIDDEN* Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: https://www.rosettastone.com/* Get 15% off your order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lauren Matthias shares her friendship and the quest for justice when Larry and Kay Woodcock have dinner with her after spending the day in Chad Daybell's trial and watching Melanie Gibb testify. Larry shares his thoughts on a spontaneous live. He also shares details of a public memorial for JJ and Tylee in Idaho Falls at the Colonial Theater at 1 pm on April 27th, 2024Our Sponsors:* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: www.armoire.style* Check out Badlands Ranch and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: badlandsranch.com* Check out My Life in a Book and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: * Check out Ro Body: ro.co/HIDDEN* Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: https://www.rosettastone.com/* Get 15% off your order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Hosts and spouses Dr John and Lauren Matthias talk about the bombshell evidence entered into the Chad Daybell trial. Join Hidden True Crime as we follow Chad Daybell's trial beginning to end. Host Lauren Matthias is in the courtroom every day, doing lunch lives on YouTube and summarizing each day and week right here on Hidden: A True Crime Podcast.JOHN MATTHIAS is a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist with 30 years’ experience. He serves as an expert witness for the federal government and consults on high-profile cases for District Attorney’s offices and defense attorneys in several states. In the forensic area, Dr. Matthias has developed expertise in personality assessments, hidden behavioral motivations, complex trauma and criminal psychology. In the clinical realm, he has worked with numerous victims. He received his Master’s degree in Marriage, Family and Child counseling, as well his doctorate degree, from the University of Southern California. Dr. Matthias graduated with honors in philosophy from Princeton University, and he won the prestigious McCosh Thesis prize while there. In high school he graduated valedictorian from a large public high school in Chicago where he was chosen to participate in a ground-breaking valedictory study that continues to this day.LAUREN MATTHIAS was a television reporter for a decade, and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. Lauren and her husband John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season: 'Beyond the Veil' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet. A podcast that started at their dinner table has now turned into the dynamic husband and wife duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, delving into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming at Patreon member at Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrimeOur Sponsors:* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: www.armoire.style* Check out Badlands Ranch and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: badlandsranch.com* Check out My Life in a Book and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: * Check out Ro Body: ro.co/HIDDEN* Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: https://www.rosettastone.com/* Get 15% off your order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

On the second week of the Chad Daybell Trial, two major pieces of evidence were shared in court. You can listen to them both on this episode-Chad's daugher Emma talking to her dad after his arrest in June 2020, as well as a Patriarchal church blessing that Chad gave to Alex Cox in November 2019Join Hidden True Crime as we follow Chad Daybell's trial beginning to end. Host Lauren Matthias is in the courtroom every day, doing lunch lives on YouTube and summarizing each day and week right here on Hidden: A True Crime Podcast.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming at Patreon member at Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrimeOur Sponsors:* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: www.armoire.style* Check out Badlands Ranch and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: badlandsranch.com* Check out My Life in a Book and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: * Check out Ro Body: ro.co/HIDDEN* Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: https://www.rosettastone.com/* Get 15% off your order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Hosts and spouses Dr John and Laure Matthias assess the opening statements from both the defense and prosecution. Join Hidden True Crime as we follow Chad Daybell's trial beginning to end. Host Lauren Matthias is in the courtroom every day, doing lunch lives on YouTube and summarizing each day and week right here on Hidden: A True Crime Podcast.JOHN MATTHIAS is a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist with 30 years’ experience. He serves as an expert witness for the federal government and consults on high-profile cases for District Attorney’s offices and defense attorneys in several states. In the forensic area, Dr. Matthias has developed expertise in personality assessments, hidden behavioral motivations, complex trauma and criminal psychology. In the clinical realm, he has worked with numerous victims. He received his Master’s degree in Marriage, Family and Child counseling, as well his doctorate degree, from the University of Southern California. Dr. Matthias graduated with honors in philosophy from Princeton University, and he won the prestigious McCosh Thesis prize while there. In high school he graduated valedictorian from a large public high school in Chicago where he was chosen to participate in a ground-breaking valedictory study that continues to this day.LAUREN MATTHIAS was a television reporter for a decade, and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. Lauren and her husband John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season: 'Beyond the Veil' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet. A podcast that started at their dinner table has now turned into the dynamic husband and wife duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, delving into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming at Patreon member at Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrimeOur Sponsors:* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: www.armoire.style* Check out Badlands Ranch and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: badlandsranch.com* Check out My Life in a Book and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: * Check out Ro Body: ro.co/HIDDEN* Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: https://www.rosettastone.com/* Get 15% off your order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Join Hidden True Crime as we follow the Chad Daybell's trial beginning to end. Host Lauren Matthias is in the courtroom every day, doing lunch lives on YouTube and summarizing each day and week right here on Hidden: A True Crime Podcast.Barbara Jones Brown is the co-author of Vengeance Is Mine, The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Its Aftermath (Oxford University Press, 2023), about the most notorious crime in Mormon history near today's St. George, Utah. In 1857, a group of Mormon settlers massacred more than 100 men, women, and children in a California-bound wagon train: BOOK LINKBrown is the director of Signature Books, an indie publisher in Salt Lake City, Utah, which publishes thoroughly-researched books on Utah, Mormon, and Western American History. Previously she was the executive director of the Mormon History Association and historical director of Better Days 2020. Brown holds a Master’s degree in American history from the University of Utah and a Bachelor’s degree in journalism from Brigham Young University.LAUREN MATTHIAS was a television reporter for a decade, and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. Lauren and her husband John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season: 'Beyond the Veil' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet. A podcast that started at their dinner table has now turned into the dynamic husband and wife duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, delving into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming at Patreon member at Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrimeOur Sponsors:* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: www.armoire.style* Check out Badlands Ranch and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: badlandsranch.com* Check out My Life in a Book and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: * Check out Ro Body: ro.co/HIDDEN* Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: https://www.rosettastone.com/* Get 15% off your order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy