Across the Divide Podcast

Daniel sits down with Thabet Abu Rass, a Palestinian citizen of Israel and co-CEO of the Abraham Initiatives, to discuss the Israeli elections, the systemic discrimination Palestinian citizens face inside Israel, the legacy of the Kafr Qasim massacre, and Abu Rass' vision for a shared, equal future.Join us at Church at the Crossroads, November 5-7, in Atlanta, and use coupon code ATD to get $30 off your registration! Sign up here: https://www.churchatthecrossroads.com/atlantaWe’d love to have you join our Patreon community! Take part in our monthly book club, signal chat, and get exclusive content only available to subscribers. Join us here: https://www.patreon.com/c/AcrosstheDividehttps://www.vanleer.org.il/en/members/dr-thabet-abu-rass/Follow Across the Divide for more on ⁠Instagram⁠ ⁠⁠⁠‪@AcrosstheDividePodcast‬⁠⁠⁠Across the Divide is a podcast of the Bethlehem Institute for Peace and Justice. Learn more at BIPJ.org

Join us at Church at the Crossroads, November 5-7, in Atlanta, and use coupon code ATD to get $30 off your registration! Sign up here: https://www.churchatthecrossroads.com/atlantaWe’d love to have you join our Patreon community! Take part in our monthly book club, signal chat, and get exclusive content only available to subscribers. Join us here: https://www.patreon.com/c/AcrosstheDivideIn the lead-up to Church as Crossroads 2026, we’re revisiting some of our favorite conversations from last year. In his 2025 Church at the Crossroads talk, Munther Isaac urges the Western church to move beyond passive sympathy and examine how theological silence can amount to complicity. Ultimately, Munther calls on believers to embody a courageous, justice-centered faith that actively stands with Bethlehem.Follow Across the Divide for more on ⁠Instagram⁠ ⁠⁠⁠‪@AcrosstheDividePodcast‬⁠⁠⁠Across the Divide is a podcast of the Bethlehem Institute for Peace and Justice. Learn more at BIPJ.org

Join us at Church at the Crossroads, November 5-7, in Atlanta, and use coupon code ATD to get $30 off your registration! Sign up here: https://www.churchatthecrossroads.com/atlantaWe’d love to have you join our Patreon community! Take part in our monthly book club, signal chat, and get exclusive content only available to subscribers. Join us here: https://www.patreon.com/c/AcrosstheDivideIn the lead-up to Church as Crossroads 2026, we’re revisiting some of our favorite conversations from last year. In his 2025 Church at the Crossroads talk, Jemar Tisby highlights a long history of Black solidarity with Palestine and urges Christians to practice courageous, relational action. Ultimately, he reminds us that the God who suffers with the oppressed also empowers us to overcome oppression together.Become a monthly supporter of Across the Divide on Patreon at patreon.com/acrossthedivideFollow Across the Divide for more on ⁠Instagram⁠ ⁠⁠⁠‪@AcrosstheDividePodcast‬⁠⁠⁠Across the Divide is a podcast of the Bethlehem Institute for Peace and Justice. Learn more at BIPJ.org

Daniel and Omar unpack their Jubilee experience, revisiting some of the key moments from their interview. Become a monthly supporter of Across the Divide on Patreon at patreon.com/acrossthedivideFollow Across the Divide for more on ⁠Instagram⁠ ⁠⁠⁠‪@AcrosstheDividePodcast‬⁠⁠⁠Across the Divide is a podcast of the Bethlehem Institute of Peace and Justice. Learn more at BIPJ.org

Join our monthly bookclub discussion based on this episode by joining our Patreon community at https://www.patreon.com/c/AcrosstheDivideIn this episode, Jen talks with Jesse Steven Wheeler about his book, “The Bible is Anti-Zionist: 40 Reflections on the Greatest Moral Crisis of our Time.” They reflect on the responsibility that Christians hold to confront biblical interpretations, like those of Zionism, that have been used to do harm and justify violence.You can download a free e-copy of “The Bible is Anti-Zionist” or purchase a physical copy here: https://www.fosna.org/antizionistbibleJesse’s other book is “Serving A Crucified King: Meditations on Faith, Politics, and the Unyielding Pursuit of God's Reign”: https://wipfandstock.com/9781666709582/serving-a-crucified-king/Check out the “Bad Theology: Busted” podcast here: https://www.badtheologybusted.com/Become a monthly supporter of Across the Divide on Patreon at patreon.com/acrossthedivideFollow Across the Divide for more on ⁠Instagram⁠ ⁠⁠⁠‪@AcrosstheDividePodcast‬⁠⁠⁠Across the Divide is a podcast of the Bethlehem Institute of Peace and Justice. Learn more at BIPJ.org

Join us at Church at the Crossroads, November 5-7, in Atlanta, and use coupon code ATD to get $30 off your registration! Sign up here: https://www.churchatthecrossroads.com/atlantaWe’d love to have you join our Patreon community! Take part in our monthly book club, signal chat, and get exclusive content only available to subscribers. Join us here: https://www.patreon.com/c/AcrosstheDivideIn the lead-up to Church as Crossroads 2026, we’re revisiting some of our favorite conversations from last year. In her 2025 Church at the Crossroads talk, Lamma Mansour addresses the subtle ways that we, as believers, can become complicit in systemic injustice and the preservation of empire.Become a monthly supporter of Across the Divide on Patreon at patreon.com/acrossthedivideFollow Across the Divide for more on ⁠Instagram⁠ ⁠⁠⁠‪@AcrosstheDividePodcast‬⁠⁠⁠Across the Divide is a podcast of the Bethlehem Institute for Peace and Justice. Learn more at BIPJ.org

Join us at Church at the Crossroads, November 5-7, in Atlanta, and use coupon code ATD to get $30 off your registration! Sign up here: https://www.churchatthecrossroads.com/atlantaWe’d love to have you join our Patreon community! Take part in our monthly book club, signal chat, and get exclusive content only available to subscribers. Join us here: https://www.patreon.com/c/AcrosstheDivideIn the lead-up to Church as Crossroads 2026, we’re revisiting some of our favorite conversations from last year. In his 2025 Church at the Crossroads talk, Preston Sprinkle makes a biblical case for resisting empire through Christian non-violence.Become a monthly supporter of Across the Divide on Patreon at patreon.com/acrossthedivideFollow Across the Divide for more on ⁠Instagram⁠ ⁠⁠⁠‪@AcrosstheDividePodcast‬⁠⁠⁠Across the Divide is a podcast of the Bethlehem Institute for Peace and Justice. Learn more at BIPJ.org

Join us at Church at the Crossroads, November 5-7, in Atlanta, and use coupon code ATD to get $30 off your registration! Sign up here: https://www.churchatthecrossroads.com/atlantaWe’d love to have you join our Patreon community! Take part in our monthly book club, signal chat, and get exclusive content only available to subscribers. Join us here: https://www.patreon.com/c/AcrosstheDivideWhat happens when the system you were raised to defend crumbles under the weight of truth? In this episode, Daniel Klein, a former West Bank settler and IDF tank commander, shares his journey out of Zionism and religious nationalism and how encountering the teachings of Jesus transformed his view of justice and true peace in the Holy Land. Follow Daniel on his Substack: https://dzyk.substack.com/Follow Across the Divide for more on ⁠Instagram⁠ ⁠⁠⁠‪@AcrosstheDividePodcast‬⁠⁠⁠Across the Divide is a podcast for the Bethlehem Institute of Peace and Justice. Learn more at BIPJ.org

Join us at Church at the Crossroads November 5-7 in Atlanta and use coupon code ATD to get $30 off your registration! Sign up here: https://www.churchatthecrossroads.com/atlantaWe’d love to have you join our Patreon community! Take part in our monthly book club, signal chat, and get exclusive content only available to subscribers. Join us here: https://www.patreon.com/c/AcrosstheDivideDaniel interviews Israeli Holocaust and genocide scholar Professor Amos Goldberg and discusses why he publicly characterized Israel's military campaign in Gaza as a genocide. He examines how the destruction of Gaza’s infrastructure, widespread civilian casualties, and official statements demonstrate a pattern of collective destruction and genocidal intent under international law.Follow Across the Divide for more on ⁠Instagram⁠ ⁠⁠⁠‪https://www.instagram.com/acrossthedividepodcast/‬⁠⁠⁠Across the Divide is a project of the Bethlehem Institute of Peace and Justice (BIPJ). Learn more about BIPJ at https://www.bipj.org/

Jen speaks with Rev. Robert Smith about Marc Ellis's book Judaism Does Not Equal Israel. Smith, a former student of Ellis, discusses his mentor's legacy as a Jewish liberation theologian and explores the flawed "ecumenical deal" in Jewish-Christian dialogue. The conversation connects Ellis's decades-old prophetic critiques to the current crisis in Palestine-Israel and the responsibility of faith communities to engage critically.Judaism Does Not Equal Israel by Marc EllisToward a Jewish Theology of Liberation by Marc EllisEllis' Mondoweiss columnArticles honoring Marc H. EllisJoin the Across the Divide’s Book Club through our Bronze Patreon level at https://www.patreon.com/AcrosstheDivideFollow Across the Divide for more on ⁠Instagram⁠ ⁠⁠⁠‪@AcrosstheDividePodcast‬⁠⁠⁠Across the Divide is a podcast of the Bethlehem Institute of Peace and Justice. Learn more at BIPJ.org