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#43 Is Disinformation Really the Problem?

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In this episode of Zooming in on Hate, we turn the microphone around a little. Host Jordy Nijenhuis joins Vivian Gerrand, his co-author on a new policy brief examining responses to disinformation at the local level.

The research formed part of an Australian-led project exploring the relationship between disinformation, polarisation and violent extremism, drawing on approaches and practitioner experiences from around the world.

Together, Jordy and Vivian discuss:

whether framing disinformation primarily as an information problem is holding us back

why fact-checking matters, but cannot address grievance, fear or belonging on its own

how outrage has become embedded in the business model of online platforms

why some narratives feel emotionally true even when their factual basis is weak

what violent extremism research can teach us about disinformation

why local communities offer an important space for intervention

the role of trusted messengers, including teachers, sports coaches, hairdressers and other community figures

why trust needs to be built before a crisis happens

the difference between prevention, disruption and recovery

why short-term project funding makes long-term resilience difficult

how storytelling, emotional literacy, civic literacy and critical thinking can complement media literacy

and what practitioners and policymakers can actually start doing differently

A central theme runs throughout the conversation: if disinformation exploits real grievances, simply correcting the information cannot be the whole solution.

You can find the policy brief here.

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