How To Store Your Clothes And Rotate Your Wardrobe Like a Pro

Spring has officially sprung, but your wardrobe is still stuck in winter mode! This week, Leigh's joined by returning favourite Nicole Bonython-Hines (her fifth appearance - clearly we play favourites!) to tackle the art of seasonal wardrobe rotation. Think it's just for people in movies? Think again! Nicole's telling us why rotating your wardrobe isn't just about space - it's about actually seeing and wearing what you own. She's sharing her foolproof system for storing everything from delicate knits to structured blazers without the dreaded moth casualties or mould disasters. EVERYTHING MENTIONED: Leigh's Budget: Warmi 16 Pack Vacuum Storage Bags with Electric Air Pump $39.99 Nicole's Budget: Moth Repellent Lavender Tablets Leigh's Boujie: Sagitine Florence 8 Box Stand $1040.00 Nicole's Boujie: Max Mara Coats GET YOUR FASHION FIX: Watch us on Youtube this episode goes live at 8pm tonight! Follow us on Instagram Want to shop the pod? Sign up to the Nothing To Wear Newsletter to see all the products mentioned plus more, delivered straight to your inbox after every episode. Feedback? We’re listening! Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here CREDITS: Hosts: Leigh Campbell & Nicole Bonython-Hines Producer: Ella Maitland Audio Producer: Tina Matolov Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris Just so you know — some of the product links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping! Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Time to solve your makeup longevity crisis! Leigh & Kelly are breaking down why your glowy base products might be sabotaging your all-day wear and sharing the primer tricks that'll actually make your makeup last! Then they're diving into the ultimate friendship challenge - finding the perfect 30th birthday gift for your beauty-obsessed bestie who literally has everything! They're sharing genius ideas from personalised luxury treats to experience gifts that'll make her feel truly special, plus Kelly's epic 30-product surprise spreadsheet that'll blow your mind. EVERYTHING MENTIONED: MECCA COSMETICA To Save Face SPF50+ Superscreen $22 - $80 Power Grip Primer $24 L'Oréal Paris Infallible 3-Second Setting Mist 75mL $14.99 Jo Malone Gift With Engraving Mecca Voucher  MALIN+GOETZ Bergamot Supercandle 780g $289 Love Isabelle Jewellery - Custom Embroidered Beauty Case $109 Leatherology XL Train Case $210 MON Purse - Personalised Leather Toiletry Bag $150 Mecca Fragrance Discovery Sessions $75Kelly's 30 Present 30th Gift Guide MALIN+GOETZ - Bergamot Super Candle $289 The Langham Pool spaQ - The QT Kerryflex $200 Collar Up Co $37.95 GET IN TOUCH: Watch & Subscribe on YouTube – Our Q&A episode drops tonight at 7pm! Catch it here. Follow us on Instagram: @youbeautypodcast Follow us on TikTok: @youbeautypod Join our You Beauty Facebook Group here For our product recommendations, exclusive beauty news, reviews, articles, deals and much more - sign up for our free You Beauty weekly newsletter here Got a beauty question you want answered? Email us at [email protected] or send us a voice note on Instagram! Want $10 + a free month of Mamamia? We've got you.We're cooking up something exciting and need your brilliant opinions to help us make even better content.It's just 20 minutes of your time, and you'll get: $10 e-gift card 1 month Mamamia subscription (or gift it to someone if you're already a subscriber) Here is the survey and T&Cs links but please let me know if you need anything else from me xSurvey hereT&Cs here CREDITS: Hosts: Leigh Campbell & Kelly McCarren Producer: Sophie Campbell & Ella Maitland Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here. Just so you know — some of the links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping! Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Spring has officially sprung in stores, and with it comes a whole new wave of trends. But have you ever wondered how every retailer seems to get the same memo at the same time? This week, Leigh's joined again by trend forecaster Lucinda Pikkat to pull back the curtain on how a trend is born. They're decoding the macro cultural shifts and runway moments that dictate what you'll be seeing everywhere this season. They're taking you through their top predictions so can finally be in the memo! EVERYTHING MENTIONED: Bershka Starfish Bracelet - Signature Edition $23.99 Rubi Knot Your Everyday Scarf $19.99 Big W Bandana - Gold $4.20 Lovisa Red & White Regal Print Fabric Scarf $24.99 Leigh's Budget:H&M Cord Bracelet $34.99 Lucinda's Budget: Faux Suede Tote Bag $39.99 Leigh's Boujie:  Balloon Pants: Lovers and Friends Emilia Pant $198.00 La Ligne Chambray Barrel Pant $214.00 Suzette Sportswear Balloon Pants $571.00 ZW Collection 100% Linen Tie-Dye Balloon Trousers $129.00 Lucinda's Boujie: Nim The Label Suede Oversized Crescent $430.00 GET YOUR FASHION FIX: Watch us on Youtube this episode goes live at 8pm tonight! Follow us on Instagram Want to shop the pod? Sign up to the Nothing To Wear Newsletter to see all the products mentioned plus more, delivered straight to your inbox after every episode. Feedback? We’re listening! Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here CREDITS: Hosts: Leigh Campbell & Lucinda Pikkat Producer: Ella Maitland Audio Producer: Tina Matolov Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris Just so you know — some of the product links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping! Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Time to decode the bronzing drops obsession! Leigh & Kelly are telling us why these customisable tanning products are all over our feeds and whether they're worth the hype or if they might just make you look greasy instead of glowy. They're sharing the affordable options that do the trick and explaining why mixing anything with your sunscreen is a big no-no. Then they're tackling the pore predicament! Can you actually shrink your pores or is it all marketing BS? They're revealing why your pores seem to get bigger with age (it's not your imagination!), sharing the ingredients that genuinely help minimise their appearance, and dropping the genius swirling technique that'll change how you apply pore-blurring primer forever. EVERYTHING MENTIONED: Drunk Elephant D-Bronzi Anti-Pollution Sunshine Drops 30 ml $68.00 Ultra Violette Queen Screen SPF 50 Super Glow Drops-Bronzing $45.00 Morphe Hot Shot Sun Drops 30ml $26.00 e.l.f SKIN Bronzing Drops - Copper Gold, Vitamin E and Sunflower Seed Oil $20 Revolution Bright Light Bronzing Drops Bronze Scorched 23ml $24.00 W7 Golden Glow Drops - Radiant Bronzing Drops $6.99 Australian Glow Bronzing Drops with SPF 50+ Sun Drip 30ml $15.00 DB Designer Brands Endless Summer Bronzing Drops $14.99 NYX Professional Makeup Pore Filler Primer 20ml $26.99 Max Factor Miracle Touch Foundation $38.95 Disclaimer: Bronzing drops with SPF50+ should not be a substitute for your sunscreen protection. FOR MORE WHERE THIS CAME FROM:  Watch & Subscribe on YouTube – Our Q&A episode drops tonight at 7pm! Catch it here. Follow us on Instagram: @youbeautypodcast Follow us on TikTok: @youbeautypod Join our You Beauty Facebook Group here For our product recommendations, exclusive beauty news, reviews, articles, deals and much more - sign up for our free You Beauty weekly newsletter here GET IN TOUCH: Got a beauty question you want answered? Email us at [email protected] or send us a voice note on Instagram! CREDITS: Hosts: Leigh Campbell & Kelly McCarren Producer: Sophie Campbell & Ella Maitland Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here. Just so you know — some of the links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping! Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Think tracking your wardrobe sounds like a nightmare? Think again. This week, Leigh's chatting with Sydney-based stylist Jamie-Lee Burns, who has been logging every single item she owns and wears for over a decade—and it's completely transformed how she shops and gets dressed. Jamie's sharing her genius system for turning wardrobe chaos into data-driven style decisions. She's using apps like Indyx to track cost-per-wear, her Saint Agni boots? 25 wears in three months! She breaks down her foolproof 30-day shopping rule that stops impulse purchases in their tracks, reveals why she uses ChatGPT to create flat-lay images for vintage pieces, and explains how "social styling" lets strangers play dress-up with your digital wardrobe.  EVERYTHING MENTIONED: Leigh's Budget: Cremme Classic T-Shirt V2 - White $69.00 Jamie-Lee's Budget: H&M Wide Ultra High Jeans $49.99 Leigh's Boujie: Eden Mocha Leather Shoulder Bag $329.00 Jamie-Lee's Boujie: Aeyde Judi Suede Pumps $680.00 GET YOUR FASHION FIX: Watch us on Youtube this episode goes live at 8pm tonight! Follow us on Instagram Want to shop the pod? Sign up to the Nothing To Wear Newsletter to see all the products mentioned plus more, delivered straight to your inbox after every episode. Feedback? We’re listening! Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Host: Leigh Campbell Guest: Jamie-Lee Burns Producer: Ella Maitland Audio Producer: Tina Matolov Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris Just so you know — some of the product links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping! Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Time to decode the confusing world of skincare acids! Leigh & Kelly are breaking down azelaic acid - the ingredient that's suddenly everywhere and explaining why it's perfect for rosacea sufferers who can't handle retinol. Then they're tackling the dreaded neck situation! How do you deal with lines and crepey skin that seems to appear overnight? They're sharing why your regular face retinol might be too harsh for this delicate area, plus revealing the affordable and luxury options that actually work. Spoiler: you need to treat your neck like a separate skincare routine, not just an afterthought! EVERYTHING MENTIONED: Naturium Azelaic Topical Acid 10% $39.95 Azclear Action Medicated Lotion 25g $21.95  Paula's Choice 10% Azelaic Acid Booster $62.00 La Roche Posay Effaclar A.Z. Gel Cream 40ml $45.99 HelloSkin Azelaic Acid 20% w/w Serum $59.99 Dr Naomi Hit The Dec $149.00 RoC Derm Correxion Contour Cream 50ml $49.99 No7 Restore & Renew FACE & NECK $59.99 Skin Ceuticals Tripeptide-R Retinol Neck Repair Cream $249.00 bareMinerals Ageless Phyto-Retinol Neck Cream 50g Ageless $118 Fresh Black Tea Firming Corset Cream $155 HIFU Treatment  Non-Surgical Medical Aesthetic Skin Tightening Treatments  The Golden Hour Facial $265 FOR MORE WHERE THIS CAME FROM:  Watch & Subscribe on YouTube – Our Q&A episode drops tonight at 7pm! Catch it here. Follow us on Instagram: @youbeautypodcast Follow us on TikTok: @youbeautypod Join our You Beauty Facebook Group here For our product recommendations, exclusive beauty news, reviews, articles, deals and much more - sign up for our free You Beauty weekly newsletter here Subscribe to Mamamia here GET IN TOUCH: Got a beauty question you want answered? Email us at [email protected] or send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will come back to you ASAP. You Beauty is a podcast by Mamamia. Listen to more Mamamia podcasts here. Want $10 + a free month of Mamamia? We've got you.We're cooking up something exciting and need your brilliant opinions to help us make even better content.It's just 20 minutes of your time, and you'll get: $10 e-gift card 1 month Mamamia subscription (or gift it to someone if you're already a subscriber) Survey hereT&Cs here CREDITS: Hosts: Leigh Campbell & Kelly McCarren Producer: Sophie Campbell & Ella Maitland Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here. Just so you know — some of the links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping! Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Think Sex and the City was just about dating and designer shoes? Think again. This week, Leigh's joined by Mamamia's Head of Entertainment, Laura Brodnik to decode the fashion legacy that's still influencing our wardrobes 30 years later. From Carrie's controversial black bra moments to Miranda's power suits that actually made sense, these four women didn't just change how we talk about relationships—they revolutionised how we dress. Laura breaks down why Carrie Bradshaw's style is actually more attainable than aspirational (yes, really!), explains how each character's wardrobe evolved to reflect their personal growth, and reveals why that infamous pigeon clutch from "And Just Like That" is peak Carrie energy.  EVERYTHING MENTIONED: Dirt Fabric Spray Starter Pack $35.40 Leigh's Budget: Norma Kamali Diana one-shoulder ruched stretch-jersey dress $339 Laura's Budget: Fayt Sola Skirt Black $89.00 Leigh's Boujie: JW Anderson Pigeon clutch $1260 JW PEI Kallie Pigeon Clutch Bag-Purple $249.00 Laura's Boujie: ARRANGE Curve futurist sequin embellished fringe hem midi skirt in gold $314.00 Want $10 + a free month of Mamamia? We've got you.We're cooking up something exciting and need your brilliant opinions to help us make even better content.It's just 20 minutes of your time, and you'll get: $10 e-gift card 1 month Mamamia subscription (or gift it to someone if you're already a subscriber) Survey hereT&Cs here This week, you can get 20% off a Mamamia sponsorship, and Mamamia will match that 20% and donate it to RizeUp, a charity supporting women and families affected by domestic violence. Subscribe today with the code GIVEBACKNTW until 24 August 2025.  GET YOUR FASHION FIX: Watch us on Youtube this episode launching tonight 8pm! Follow us on Instagram Want to shop the pod? Sign up to the Nothing To Wear Newsletter to see all the products mentioned plus more, delivered straight to your inbox after every episode. Feedback? We’re listening! Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Host: Leigh Campbell Guest: Laura Brodnik Producer: Mollie Harwood & Ella Maitland Audio Producer: Tina Matolov Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris Just so you know — some of the links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping! Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Time to spring clean your makeup stash! Leigh & Kelly are tackling the overwhelming task of decluttering your beauty collection without keeping "just in case" products forever. They're breaking down expiry dates (spoiler: powders last way longer than liquids!), sharing storage tips that actually matter, and revealing why that mascara you've been hoarding needs to go immediately. Plus, Kelly's got the ultimate deep-clean routine for your brushes and tools that goes way beyond your regular wash. Then they're solving the slicked-back hair dilemma! How do you get that chic, editorial look without looking like you haven't washed your hair in a week? They're covering the blonde vs brunette difference (it's huge!), sharing their favourite brushes and products to get the perfect look. EVERYTHING MENTIONED: Kmart OXX Haircare Styling Brush - Black $6  Adore Beauty ELEVEN Australia Smooth Me Now Flyaway Balm $27.95 Color Wow Cult Favorite Firm + Flexible Hairspray $26 L'oreal Elnett Flexible Hold | 75mL $4.50 No Nasties Kids Plant Based Kids Hair Gel in Zesty Lime and Fresh Mint 125mL $21.95 Dermal Therapy Crystal Deodorant $8.99 Glow Up on Netflix FOR MORE WHERE THIS CAME FROM:  This week, you can get 20% off a Mamamia sponsorship, and Mamamia will match that 20% and donate it to RizeUp, a charity supporting women and families affected by domestic violence. Subscribe today with the code BEAUTYGIVEBACK until 24 August 2025. Want $10 + a free month of Mamamia? We've got you.We're cooking up something exciting and need your brilliant opinions to help us make even better content.It's just 20 minutes of your time, and you'll get: $10 e-gift card 1 month Mamamia subscription (or gift it to someone if you're already a subscriber) Here is the survey and T&Cs links but please let me know if you need anything else from me xSurvey hereT&Cs here Watch & Subscribe on YouTube – Our Q&A Episode drops tonight at 7pm! Catch it here. Follow us on Instagram: @youbeautypodcast Follow us on TikTok: @youbeautypod Join our You Beauty Facebook Group here For our product recommendations, exclusive beauty news, reviews, articles, deals and much more - sign up for our free You Beauty weekly newsletter here Subscribe to Mamamia here GET IN TOUCH: Got a beauty question you want answered? Email us at [email protected] or send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will come back to you ASAP. You Beauty is a podcast by Mamamia. Listen to more Mamamia podcasts here. CREDITS: Hosts: Leigh Campbell & Kelly McCarren Producer: Sophie Campbell & Ella Maitland Audio Producer: Tegan Sadler Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here. Just so you know — some of the links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping! Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Copenhagen Fashion Week just wrapped, and Leigh's joined again by trend forecaster Lucinda Pikkat to decode the street style magic that's got everyone obsessed! From sustainability requirements that put other fashion weeks to shame (18 mandatory criteria just to show!) to the Danish girls who made sneakers with dresses a thing, Copenhagen is serving up fashion inspiration and is showing us what to expect for our spring season. Lucinda breaks down the "Copenhagen C's"—from Scandi minimalism to full-blown maximalism—and explains why 50% influencer attendance means we're seeing the most creative, risk-taking looks on the streets. Think tartan mini skirts with giant bows, sequin dresses layered over jeans, and enough polka dots to make your head spin (in the best way). Listen to Former Vogue Editor talk street style GET YOUR FASHION FIX: Watch us on Youtube this episode launching tonight 8pm! Follow us on Instagram Want to shop the pod? Sign up to the Nothing To Wear Newsletter to see all the products mentioned plus more, delivered straight to your inbox after every episode. Feedback? We’re listening! Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected] CREDITS: Host: Leigh Campbell Guest: Lucinda Pikkat Producer: Ella Maitland Audio Producer: Tina Matolov Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris Want $10 + a free month of Mamamia? We've got you.We're cooking up something exciting and need your brilliant opinions to help us make even better content.It's just 20 minutes of your time, and you'll get: $10 e-gift card 1 month Mamamia subscription (or gift it to someone if you're already a subscriber) Survey hereT&Cs here Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Time to ditch the fear of fake tan disasters! Leigh & Kelly are giving us their best tips for achieving a natural glowy look without the dreaded orange undertones. They're sharing foolproof gradual tanning formulas that you can literally take on your beach holiday, plus the professional spray tan secrets that create the most natural-looking base. Then it's all about hair that smells as good as it looks! They're breaking down whether hair perfumes are worth the investment or if your regular fragrance will do the trick. Kelly's tells us why oily hair actually has advantages when it comes to scent, plus Leigh's sharing the products that tackle the stench at the source. Plus, the hygiene habits you're probably overlooking that could be sabotaging your fresh hair goals! EVERYTHING MENTIONED: Jergens Natural Glow Daily Moisturiser Medium to Deep $12 Bangn Body Gradual Tanning Firming Lotion $52 Noosa Bronze Gradual Tanning Lotion $39.95 Thanks To Nature Hair Perfume $24 STRAAND HeavenScent Hair Perfume + Gloss $38 My Organics The Organic Hydrating Hair Perfume $10.99 AVEDA Scalp Solutions Refreshing Protective Mist $82 Oribe Mystify Restyling Spray $36 Batiste Overnight Deep Cleanse Dry Shampoo  $14 BYOMA Phyto-Mucin Glow Serum $30 FOR MORE WHERE THIS CAME FROM:  Watch & Subscribe on Youtube here Follow us on Instagram: @youbeautypodcast Follow us on TikTok: @youbeautypod Join our You Beauty Facebook Group here For our product recommendations, exclusive beauty news, reviews, articles, deals and much more - sign up for our free You Beauty weekly newsletter here Subscribe to Mamamia here GET IN TOUCH: Got a beauty question you want answered? Email us at [email protected] or send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will come back to you ASAP. You Beauty is a podcast by Mamamia. Listen to more Mamamia podcasts here. Want $10 + a free month of Mamamia? We've got you.We're cooking up something exciting and need your brilliant opinions to help us make even better content.It's just 20 minutes of your time, and you'll get: $10 e-gift card 1 month Mamamia subscription (or gift it to someone if you're already a subscriber) Survey hereT&Cs here CREDITS: Hosts: Leigh Campbell & Kelly McCarren Producer: Mollie Harwood & Sophie Campbell Audio Producer: Thom Lion Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris Mamamia's studios are furnished with thanks to Fenton & Fenton. For more head to their website here. Just so you know — some of the links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping! Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.