Ep 238 - How to Fall in Love with Porto & the Douro: A 4-Day Wine Escape

In this episode, Janina sits down with Cristina Torres, fifth generation of the iconic Torres family and the new voice leading Marimar Estate in Sonoma. They explore the family’s Catalan roots, Marimar’s groundbreaking journey as a woman building a winery in California, the rise of Albariño and Godello in Russian River Valley, sustainability, Pinot Noir clones, and what the future looks like as Christina steps into leadership. Janina also tastes the Christina Pinot Noir and explains why she finds it one of the most romantic Pinots she has ever tried. Shownotes 02:19 Marimar’s cookbooks and why they’re perfect for Christmas gifting. 02:55 Torres’ ancestral grape recovery project — 139 sites, micro-vinifications and standout varieties like Forcada. 04:52 Christina’s first harvest at DeLoach - the shock, the workload, and what she learned. 05:30 Childhood memories of wanting to join the family winery. 06:55 Five generations of Torres winemaking since 1870. 08:14 How Christina and Marimar work together and manage the mother-daughter dynamic. 11:00 Marimar’s pioneering story: emigrating from Franco-era Spain and founding a winery in California. 13:22 What makes Russian River Valley unique: fog, Pacific influence, cool climate. 15:12 Whether Green Valley is the coolest AVA in Sonoma. 16:41 Christina’s years in the UK at John E. Fells and how they shaped her career. 19:40 Differences in leadership style between mother and daughter. 21:26 Early plantings of Chardonnay and Pinot Noir at Marimar Estate. 23:04 Albariño in Sonoma - similarities and differences compared to Galicia. 24:27 Godello in Russian River: aromatics, texture, concrete eggs and fan favourite status. 27:04 The first (too cold) Albariño attempt in Sonoma Coast. 28:18 Why Pinot Noir remains their flagship grape. 29:43 The Christina Pinot Noir: barrel selection, extra ageing, structure and depth. 31:19 Janina’s tasting notes - a romantic, perfumed, seductive Pinot. 33:12 Where to buy the wines in the UK (Vinum £2019 £65.20). 34:00 The estate dogs and their enthusiastic greetings. 35:09 Winery vs. house - the masía architecture and events at Marimar’s home. 36:03 The Torres legacy: sustainability and ancestral grape recovery. 37:58 The suitcase-cuttings story and the visit from the inspector. 38:28 Janina reflects on why Marimar is such an inspirational figure. 41:11 Pinot Noir clones: 115, 667, 777 and Pommard. 42:17 What makes Pommard so balanced and expressive. 43:52 A vineyard surprise: the tiny Mencía trial block. 45:17 Fun story - six-year-old Christina baking cookies for the future King of Spain. To follow Marimar Estate on Instagram CLICK HERE and Christina Torres CLICK HERE 📩 Questions or feedback? Email: [email protected] 📸 Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat 🎥 YouTube: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 Website: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk Until next week – cheers to you! 🥂 THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST Featured in Decanter Magazine and Radio Times, and ranked among the Top UK Wine Podcasts by Feedspot. RECOGNITION: – Finalist, 67 Pall Mall Award for Best Global Wine Communicator in Audio (2025) – Shortlisted, IWSC Emerging Talent in Wine Communication (2025) – Ranked #18 in 2024 and #22 in 2025 on Drinks Retailing’s Most Influential People in Drinks list

In this festive episode, Janina sits down with Duncan Gammie, founder of The Wee Vinoteca, to build the ultimate Christmas Wine Box. Together they explore pairings for classic holiday dishes, taste through six standout bottles, and unpack why English fizz, Greek Assyrtiko and South African Chenin Blanc belong at your Christmas table this year. Shownotes [01:37] The Christmas Pairing Game begins - smoked salmon, prawn cocktail, Stilton, roast turkey, roast beef, nut roast, mince pies, sticky toffee pudding and panettone - what are the perfect wine pairings?  [21:45] Duncan shares his background, how The Wee Vinoteca started, which recently won Wine Club of the Year from IWC. [24:26] Introducing the Christmas Wine Box - six wines designed to cover the entire holiday table with versatility and balance. [24:48] Black Chalk Classic Cuvée – English Sparkling Wine (Hampshire, UK) Duncan explains chalk soils, vintage differences, and why English sparkling has become a staple for holiday starters, seafood and celebrations. [29:04] Visiting English vineyards - where to go.  [31:35] Muses Estates, Assyrtiko (mainland Greece) A structured, saline white that handles seafood, richer starters and vegetable dishes. Duncan compares mainland Assyrtiko with Santorini, discussing old vines, wild ferments and gastronomy pairings. [37:45] The conversation widens to Greek grapes and styles – Assyrtiko, Xinomavro, Savatiano, Roditis and today’s fresher, high-quality Retsina – with advice on discovering them by the glass or in tastings. [39:20] Brookdale, Old Vine Chenin Blanc (Paarl, South Africa) Why Chenin shines at Christmas: texture, generosity, acidity and ageing potential. References to producers like Lismore and stylistic comparisons to white Burgundy. [43:40] Roccafiore, Sangiovese (Umbria, Italy) Fresh Italian red ideal for antipasti, turkey and Boxing Day dishes. Duncan highlights its balance and easy versatility and contrasts Sangiovese from this inland region with Chianti and explaining how Umbrian Sangiovese offers softer tannins and great value. And discussing Sagrantino grape. [47:51] Hey Diddle, Malbec/Cabernet Sauvignon (Claire Valley, Australia) Discussing the Claire Valley, and what is happening in this region, alongside practical tips on opening bottles sealed with wax. [51:54] Diatominist, Pedro Ximénez (Jerez, Spain) Explaining how PX sits within the broader (and sometimes confusing) Sherry styles and why this luscious, nutty, treacle-like dessert wine blows people’s minds at Christmas fairs. [57:17] Duncan and Janina note that PX is usually perfect in small pours, talk about visiting Montilla-Moriles near Córdoba, and tempt listeners with the idea of tapas-hopping through a city that boasts four UNESCO World Heritage Sites. [57:46] Asked which wine he always opens at Christmas that isn’t necessarily in the box, Duncan admits it’s English fizz – a sparkling wine he and his wife love and a non-negotiable part of their celebrations. [58:26] To visit The Wee Vinoteca, visit their site HERE and you can purchase The Staff Christmas Picks Case CLICK HERE.   📩 Questions or feedback? Email: [email protected] 📸 Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat 🎥 YouTube: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 Website: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk Until next week – cheers to you! 🥂 THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST Featured in Decanter Magazine and Radio Times, and ranked among the Top UK Wine Podcasts by Feedspot. RECOGNITION: – Finalist, 67 Pall Mall Award for Best Global Wine Communicator in Audio (2025) – Shortlisted, IWSC Emerging Talent in Wine Communication (2025) – Ranked #18 in 2024 and #22 in 2025 on Drinks Retailing’s Most Influential People in Drinks list  

In this episode, Janina sits down with Natasha Hughes MW, author of The Wines of Beaujolais, to explore one of France’s most misunderstood wine regions. They discuss why Beaujolais is far more than simple Nouveau, how over 300 soil types and multiple winemaking styles shape the wines, and why Gamay can age beautifully. Natasha shares insights on the diversity of the Crus, the role of granite and diorite, old vines (including pre-phylloxera parcels), climate-driven changes, and the rise of exciting new producers bringing fresh energy to the region.  📚 Find Natasha’s book: The Wines of Beaujolais (Academie du Vin) 💸 Use code EATSLEEP15 for 15% off Shownotes [00:32] Beaujolais Nouveau Day recap and shifting the focus to the deeper complexity of the region. [03:22] Natasha’s journey into wine, building a writing career, and the challenge of becoming a Master of Wine. [08:39] Why Beaujolais? Natasha on the region’s history, struggles after the Nouveau boom, and its current revival. [10:09] The biggest misconception: Beaujolais reduced to simple, fruity Nouveau. [11:51] 300+ soil types in a compact area - and how geology, altitude, and exposure shape wine style. [15:22] Winemaking styles in Beaujolais: Burgundian, semi-carbonic, full carbonic, and thermovinification - and why “bubblegum” is not from carbonic maceration. [19:30] Choosing a Beaujolais by style: pink granite (fine, perfumed, red-fruited) vs. diorite (darker, richer, more structured). [22:57] Chiroubles: high altitude, 100% pink granite, floral, herbal, with a wild crunchy freshness. [24:37] Morgon & Moulin-à-Vent: the opposite profile - powerful, age-worthy, and sometimes reminiscent of Pinot Noir, Syrah or even Nebbiolo. [28:31] Old vines and pre-phylloxera parcels - why Beaujolais is a treasure trove of historic vineyards. [39:20] Rising stars and undervalued areas: Beaujolais Villages and exciting producers such as Domaine Les Garçons, and Domaine de la Grosse Pierre (Pauline Passot). [48:10] Closing anecdote: a 1932 auction story that turned a missed opportunity into extraordinary luck. 📩 Questions or feedback? Email: [email protected] 📸 Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat 🎥 YouTube: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 Website: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk Until next week – cheers to you! 🥂 THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST Featured in Decanter Magazine and Radio Times, and ranked among the Top UK Wine Podcasts by Feedspot. RECOGNITION: – Finalist, 67 Pall Mall Award for Best Global Wine Communicator in Audio (2025) – Shortlisted, IWSC Emerging Talent in Wine Communication (2025) – Ranked #18 in 2024 and #22 in 2025 on Drinks Retailing’s Most Influential People in Drinks list

In this lively, laughter-filled episode, Janina chats with Tom Gilbey - the man who made wine fun again by tasting a different bottle at every mile of a marathon. They dive into everything from the fossil-rich soils of Chablis and the changing world of en primeur Bordeaux, to how to host your own playful blind tastings at home. Along the way, Tom shares tips for making wine approachable (and hilarious), highlights his favorite Bordeaux wines and “Super Seconds,” and reminds us that enjoying a bottle should be full of joy, stories, and a little mischief. Shownotes  [01:42] Wine fact of the episode — the history behind the 1855 Bordeaux Classification and how it still shapes prestige and pricing today. [05:05] Tom shares how his viral “Wine Marathon” began: tasting a different wine every mile, his son’s support, and the unexpected global response that followed. [08:36] From chaos to community - how a family experiment turned into a worldwide audience and new passion for wine communication. [11:17] The art of blind tasting - from marathon guesses to what he learned about focus, humility, and having fun with wine. [13:03] Janina and Tom discuss Thirsty and how his stories highlight the humour, generosity, and humanity of the wine trade. [15:33] Why blind tasting should be playful - ideas for home tastings, favourite tricky grapes like Nerello Mascalese and Baga, and the concept of “Wine Sports Day.” [21:30] Turning to Bordeaux — Tom’s reflections on 2005 vintages, learning from Robert Parker, and how palate trends shaped global styles. [25:23] Bordeaux today: en primeur uncertainty, Château Latour’s exit from the system, and why Tom says wine should be enjoyed, not invested in. [28:27] Blind tasting first growths versus super seconds - and how labels, price, and reputation influence what we think we taste. [31:03] Highlights on Château Montrose, Léoville Las Cases, and La Mission Haut-Brion - some of the ‘Super-Seconds’. [33:41] From Bordeaux to Burgundy - discussing Chablis, its fossils, minerality, and that unforgettable sense of “tasting the sea.” [37:37] Janina and Tom reflect on how palates evolve - from bold New World wines to subtle Old World elegance. [40:12] Beaujolais Nouveau nostalgia — London’s 1980s celebrations, and Tom’s upcoming Beaujolais Party at Sophie’s in Piccadilly. [44:13] Tom’s early years: studying at Plumpton College, researching English wine in the ’90s, and predicting the rise of world-class English sparkling. [47:15] Wrapping up with Battle of the Grapes: Tom picks his favourite grape varieties   📩 Questions or feedback? Email: [email protected] 📸 Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat 🎥 YouTube: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 Website: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk 📚 Find out more about Tom Gilbey: tomgilbeywine  📖 Get his book Thirsty: Available on Amazon UK  🍷 Tickets for the Beaujolais Nouveau Party: Sophie's Steakhouse, Piccadilly Until next week – cheers to you! 🥂 THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST Featured in Decanter Magazine and Radio Times, and ranked among the Top UK Wine Podcasts by Feedspot. RECOGNITION: – Finalist, 67 Pall Mall Award for Best Global Wine Communicator in Audio (2025) – Shortlisted, IWSC Emerging Talent in Wine Communication (2025) – Ranked #18 in 2024 and #22 in 2025 on Drinks Retailing’s Most Influential People in Drinks list Music Used in Podcast from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/stan-town/groove-sauce License code: HX8TGN6XM1D6LQWX

This week, join Janina for an unforgettable journey through Porto, Vila Nova de Gaia, and deep into the Douro Valley - the world’s first demarcated  and regulated wine region. Over four days, she shares tips, tricks, where to stay, what to sip, and the must-do moments that make Portugal’s most iconic wine region so special. From wandering the tiled streets of Porto and exploring the buzzing Mercado do Bolhão, to taking the scenic train to Pinhão, this episode is your insider guide to soaking up the Douro at its very best. Shownotes 02:00 Douro – the first demarcated and regulated wine region in the worlds and it’s they history 04:00 Why visit Porto 5:00 Where to day in Porto 05:30 Mercado do Bolhão 06:00 Travelling from airport on the metro 06:30 Day 1 Itinerary – River walks and a visit to Grahams Port Lodge 08:30 The importance of Coopers to repair the oak casks and what happens to the wine in barrels and casks 9:00 The Style of Tawny port and the new 80 year old category 11:45 The different style of Tawny and ageing requirements 14:30 The ten first families of wine starting with The Symington Family 15:30 Difference in temperature and rainfall from Porto, the Cima Corgo (The heart of Douro) and the Douro Superior 17:00 Antinori from Tuscany 17:30 Baron Philippe de Rothchild - Chateau Mouton Rothchild 18:00 Familia Torres, based in Catalonia, Spain 18:30 E & J Gallo Winery, California 18:50 Joseph Drouhin, Burgundy 19:10 Famille Perrin, Rhône 19:30 Jackson Family Wines, California 20:00 Tenuta San Guido, Italy 20:15 Vega Sicilia, Spain   21:00 Eating at Matriarca in Porto 23:30] Day 2 Itineray - Take the train to Pinhão, Douro (Cima Corgo) from São Bento railway station (another MUST see in Porto) 24:30 The Solcalcos (Terraces) that gave Douro it’s UNESCO World Heritage status. 25:00 The more modern Patamares 25:30 Soil erosion in the Douro and now laser guided technology to help 27:00] Vinha ao alto for the less steep slopes 27:30 Eat and stay at The Vintage House, Pinhão 29:30 Stay at The Manor House, Celeirós and visit Quinta do Portal next door 31:00 Quinta da Roêda - Croft Port 33:00 Quinta do Bonfim 33:30 Day 3 Itinerary – Enjoy the Old Town of Porto 35:00 Day 4 Itinerary – Taylors Port Lodge 37:45 The Yeatman Hotel 39:30 The WOW museum 43:00 Tasting at The Wine School including Azores Wine Company Terrantez do Pico 43:30 Quanta Terra, Phenomena Rose 📩 Questions or feedback? Email: [email protected] 📸 Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat 🎥 YouTube: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 Website: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk Until next week – cheers to you! 🥂 THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST Featured in Decanter Magazine and Radio Times, and ranked among the Top UK Wine Podcasts by Feedspot. RECOGNITION: – Finalist, 67 Pall Mall Award for Best Global Wine Communicator in Audio (2025) – Shortlisted, IWSC Emerging Talent in Wine Communication (2025) – Ranked #18 in 2024 and #22 in 2025 on Drinks Retailing’s Most Influential People in Drinks list    

In this sensory-driven episode, Janina is joined by Sietze Wijma, founder of The Art of Tasting, to explore how flavour molecules shape our experience of wine. From chemistry to culture, Sietze shares how our environment, memories, and even our saliva can change what we taste in the glass. Together, they unpack the science behind wine aromas, tasting faults, and why perception is as much about learning as it is about the senses.   Shownotes [00:26] Janina introduces her guest, Sietze Wijma, recognised at the 67 Pall Mall Global Communicator Awards for his work blending sensory science and wine education. [01:49] Quick wine fact — how saliva enzymes alter sweetness and release fruity aromas in Sauvignon Blanc. Based on info from The Cynic’s Guide to Wine by Sunny Hodge (Guest on Ep 232) [03:41] Sietze explains The Art of Tasting and how adding isolated flavour compounds helps students identify key aromas. [04:31] How flavour molecules like those in green bell peppers naturally occur in wine. [05:28] Using “spiked” neutral wines as a training tool before tasting commercial wines. [06:19] Butter, vanilla, and yogurt notes — breaking down malolactic fermentation, oak ageing, and lees stirring. [08:00] How culture shapes perception: diacetyl (buttery aroma) described as baklava in Turkey or dahi in India. [09:36] Sietze’s journey from studying flavour chemistry in beer to founding his own wine-focused aroma lab in the UK. [11:03] The “bird-watching” analogy — tasting is about recognition, not sensitivity; anyone can train their palate. [12:57] Identifying key wine aroma families — pyrazines, TDN, and rotundone — and how they appear in specific grape varieties. [13:55] Pyrazines and their link to green bell pepper notes in Sauvignon Blanc, Cabernet Franc, and Carménère. [15:10] TDN and the petrol character in Riesling — how sunlight and bottle age intensify the aroma. [17:04] Rotundone and the black-pepper signature of cool-climate Syrah and white-pepper notes of Grüner Veltliner. [20:04] How different cultures interpret the same aroma — ginseng and pyrazines in Chinese Cabernet Sauvignon. [21:27] The “ladybug taint” — an uncommon wine fault caused by crushed beetles releasing pyrazine compounds. [23:32] Common wine faults explained: cork taint (TCA), reduction, light strike, oxidation, and brettanomyces. [28:09] Story time — Sietze recalls mistaking oxidation for an open-too-long bottle in Austria. [30:14] Brettanomyces and the fine line between savoury complexity and spoilage. [32:31] The Château de Beaucastel example — when Brett becomes part of terroir and debate. [33:13] Tasting myths: why aromas like “green bell pepper” don’t mean actual allergens in wine. [34:37] How to improve blind tasting skills at home using aroma kits and DIY spiked wines. [36:28] Why tasting side-by-side is key to better identification and learning. [37:55] The “mouseiness” fault — why some aromas appear only after tasting due to pH and acidity. [42:46] Helen Keller’s quote on scent and memory — a poetic close to a science-rich episode. 📩 Questions or feedback? Email: [email protected] 📸 Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat 🎥 YouTube: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 Website: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk Until next week – cheers to you! 🥂 THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST Featured in Decanter Magazine and Radio Times, and ranked among the Top UK Wine Podcasts by Feedspot. RECOGNITION: – Finalist, 67 Pall Mall Award for Best Global Wine Communicator in Audio (2025) – Shortlisted, IWSC Emerging Talent in Wine Communication (2025) – Ranked #18 in 2024 and #22 in 2025 on Drinks Retailing’s Most Influential People in Drinks list  

In this bright and refreshing episode, Janina travels to the shores of Lake Garda to uncover one of Italy’s most exciting and underrated white wine regions - Lugana DOC. Her guest is Fabio Zenato, president of the Consorzio Tutela Lugana DOC, who brings three generations of family knowledge and a deep passion for the local Turbiana grape.   Together, they explore the true identity of Turbiana, the unique glacial soils of the region, and why Lugana wines can age far beyond expectations. Expect insights into clonal selection, microclimate, and terroir - all wrapped in stories of tradition, elegance, and discovery.   Shownotes   [01:53] Third-generation vintner Fabio Zenato reflects on childhood memories that shaped his connection to the vineyards of Lugana. [02:28] Family heritage and early experiences that inspired a lifelong dedication to the land and its vines. [04:46] Clarifying the genetic confusion surrounding the Turbiana grape and its historical misidentification. [04:57] Understanding the DNA difference between Turbiana, Verdicchio, and Trebbiano di Soave. [09:18] Mutation or clone — exploring how proximity to Soave influenced Turbiana’s evolution. [10:41] Labeling inconsistencies and the importance of protecting the Turbiana name. [12:04] Tasting Tommasi Le Fornaci  2024 (£19.99 Cambridge Wine Merchants) and what to expect from a fresh, mineral-driven Lugana wine. [14:40] Locating Lugana: the southern shores of Lake Garda, between Lombardy and Veneto. [19:27] The influence of Lake Garda’s breezes and surrounding topography on vineyard climate. [20:33] The role of elevation - from 60 to 100 meters - and how slight altitude differences affect freshness and balance. [22:02] Exploring Monte Lupo 2015 from Cobue and understanding why Turbiana has remarkable aging potential. [24:47] How Lugana wines maintain acidity and evolve with nutty, floral, and mineral complexity over time. [27:40] Introducing La Rifra Riserva 2022 - structure, richness, and longevity in the glass. £24.99 D Vino Wines [28:53] Defining what makes a Lugana Riserva: minimum aging, depth, and stylistic differences. [32:53] The story behind Benedictus 2023 from Le Morette — the philosophy and inspiration behind its name. £22 The Wine Rack [34:41] Winemaking approach: lees aging, oak influence, and the balance between richness and minerality. [38:05] Food pairing ideas — from seafood to risotto, and how Lugana’s texture makes it versatile. [40:05] Tasting Feliciana 'Serce' Riserva 2022 — €27.95 Woodberrys.ie [40:36] Travel tips: flying into Verona for the easiest route to Lugana and Lake Garda. [42:59] Must-try local dishes and regional specialties to pair with Turbiana wines. [45:28] A new generation of winemakers bringing innovation through sparkling and sweet styles. [46:50] Corte Sermana Duerive 2023 — bright, delicate, and grown by the lake, where the vines feel the breeze off Garda’s shores. [49:07] The perfect Lugana moment — sunshine, lake views, and a chilled glass of Turbiana.   📩 Questions or feedback? Email: [email protected]   📸 Follow on Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat   🎥 YouTube Channel: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 More content: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk   Until next time – cheers to you! 🥂   THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST has been featured in Decanter Magazine, Radio Times, and named by Feedspot as one of the Top UK Wine Podcasts.   RECOGNITION: – Finalist, 67 Pall Mall Award for Best Global Wine Communicator in Audio (2025) – Shortlisted, IWSC Emerging Talent in Wine Communication (2025) – Ranked #18 in 2024 and #22 in 2025 on Drinks Retailing’s Most Influential People in Drinks list

In this sun-soaked Californian adventure, Janina welcomes Paige Comrie, creator behind Wine With Paige — a storyteller, wine communicator, and fellow IWSC Emerging Talent nominee. Together, they explore California’s hidden treasures: Lodi, Murphy’s, and Amador County — regions that rarely steal Napa’s spotlight but hold some of the most soulful vineyards and fascinating history in American wine. From rolling down hills at Opus One to uncovering the gold-rush roots of California’s old vines, this episode celebrates authenticity, creativity, and the deep sense of place that defines these lesser-known wine regions. Expect laughter, discovery, and plenty of Zinfandel talk along the way. Shownotes [03:59] How Paige went from business school in Michigan to discovering wine through Wine for Dummies and Wine Folly. [05:27] The 18 noble grape varieties as a framework for understanding global wine styles. [06:55] Tasting across those grapes as an education in structure, aroma, and texture — from crisp whites to full-bodied reds. [07:58] Generational shifts in wine habits and how younger drinkers embrace experimentation and design. [10:21] Rolling down a hill at Opus One and the reminder that wine should always stay fun. [12:51] Overview of Lodi, Murphy’s, and Amador — three off-the-beaten-path regions defined by old vines and history. [17:28] Lodi’s scale, production diversity, and role as a powerhouse for California wine. [18:27] Murphy’s as a Gold Rush town turned boutique wine destination full of charm and local flavor. [19:51] Key contrasts between Murphy’s and Lodi in landscape, culture, and experience. [20:28] European and Italian immigrant roots that shaped Zinfandel, Sangiovese, and the region’s identity. [21:51] California’s oldest documented Zinfandel vineyard from 1869 and how volcanic and sandy soils preserved it. [23:30] Distinct terrains — Lodi’s flat vineyards versus the rolling, oak-covered hills of Murphy’s and Amador. [24:29] The dramatic beauty of Amador with Sierra Nevada peaks and Tahoe in the distance. [25:16] Zinfandel defined: bold fruit, warm spice, richness, and soft tannins. [27:59] The accidental invention of White Zinfandel at Sutter Home and Napa’s last free tasting rooms. [29:15] Wine tasting costs in Napa versus the approachable, grassroots experiences in Lodi and Murphy’s. [30:26] Dining highlight: Taste in Amador, a women-led fine dining spot with local flair. [31:10] Must-visit wineries including Ironstone, Andis, Casino Mine, Bokisch, and Michael David. [32:13] Lodi’s Wine & Chocolate Weekend featuring creative pairings like chocolate-covered grasshoppers. [33:58] SaveTheOld.com and the movement to protect California’s 100-year-old vineyards. [37:35] The connection between California Zinfandel and Italy’s Primitivo. [38:17] Red wine dominance across the regions with a few standout whites. [39:22] A memorable tasting at Memento Mori in Napa and the philosophy behind “remember we must die.” [42:02] Choosing Chardonnay as the one grape to drink for life. [42:24] Dream dinner guest: Jared Way of My Chemical Romance. [43:06] The most underrated U.S. wine region: Walla Walla, Washington. [44:11] Closing thoughts — pour yourself an old vine Zinfandel and start planning your next California wine trip. 📩 Questions or feedback? Email: [email protected] 📸 Follow on Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat 🎥 YouTube Channel: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 More content: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk Until next time – cheers to you! 🥂 THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST has been featured in Decanter Magazine, Radio Times, and named by Feedspot as one of the Top UK Wine Podcasts. RECOGNITION: – Finalist, 67 Pall Mall Award for Best Global Wine Communicator in Audio (2025) – Shortlisted, IWSC Emerging Talent in Wine Communication (2025) – Ranked #18 in 2024 and #22 in 2025 on Drinks Retailing’s Most Influential People in Drinks list  

In this fascinating and earthy episode of Eat Sleep Wine Repeat, Janina welcomes one of the world’s leading voices in soil and terroir — Pedro Parra, affectionately known as Dr. Terroir or Pedro Pits. A soil scientist, consultant, and winemaker, Pedro has studied over 50,000 soil pits across the globe and holds a PhD in terroir. His work has redefined how we understand vineyard mapping, root behavior, and the intimate connection between geology and the taste of wine. Together, Janina and Pedro dig deep — quite literally — into the role of soil, minerality, and terroir expression in winemaking. From limestone and granite to volcanic ash and clay, Pedro explains which grapes grow best in each soil type. They also explore Itata, Chile, one of South America’s oldest and most under-the-radar regions, and discuss Pedro’s beautiful 90-year-old-vine Cinsault, a wine that captures the soul of granite and the spirit of Burgundy. Expect scientific insight, poetic reflection, and a whole lot of passion for what lies beneath our vines. Shownotes   [00:32] – Meet Dr. Terroir: Pedro Parra, the man behind 50,000 soil pits and a global reputation for understanding what lies beneath our vineyards. [04:15] – What terroir truly means: why the connection between soil, roots, and weather defines a wine’s identity. [04:24] – What many winemakers misunderstand when they focus on the cellar instead of the vineyard. [11:31] – The perfect soil for Pinot Noir: how limestone delivers elegance, acidity, and finesse. [11:44] – Granite explained: why it produces wines with brightness, tension, and linearity. [14:22] – The best grape for granite soils? Pedro’s surprising answer — and the region that redefines Grenache. [16:32] – The truth about clay: good vs. bad clay, and why it can either nourish or suffocate the vine. [22:39] – What makes schist so complex and unpredictable in the vineyard. [23:48] – The grape varieties that thrive on schist — from the Douro to Côte-Rôtie. [24:57] – Volcanic soils: beauty, danger, and why only 10 % of volcanic terroirs produce great wine. [28:46] – Pedro’s most moving wine experiences and what he looks for in true terroir transparency. [31:12] – How he fell in love with Itata, Chile — a forgotten land of old bush vines and soulful energy. [39:01] – What makes his 90-year-old-vine Trance Cinsault 2022 (£40 Hic Wine Merchants)  so unique: granite soils, freshness, and natural elegance. [40:59] – “Being so good but the wines were so bad”: Pedro’s candid story of unlearning Burgundy winemaking. [43:46] – From concentration to “illusion”: discovering balance through gentle, cool fermentations. [45:15] – Whole-cluster fermentation — when it works, when it doesn’t, and why humidity is the key. [47:37] – Oak, concrete, and steel: how the choice of vessel completely changes a wine’s texture. [50:47] – Too many beautiful labels, not enough good wine — Pedro on the crisis of modern winemaking. [51:48] – The one wine that most moved Pedro — and his final thoughts on terroir and emotion.   📩 Questions or feedback? Email me: [email protected] 📸 Follow on Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat 🎥 YouTube Channel: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 More content: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk Until next time – cheers to you! 🥂 THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST HAS BEEN FEATURED IN DECANTER MAGAZINE, RADIO TIMES, AND NAMED BY FEEDSPOT AS THE 6TH BEST UK WINE PODCAST. RECOGNITION: – FINALIST, 67 PALL MALL AWARD FOR BEST GLOBAL WINE COMMUNICATOR IN AUDIO (2025) – SHORTLISTED, IWSC EMERGING TALENT IN WINE COMMUNICATION (2025) – RANKED #18 IN 2024 AND #22 IN 2025 ON DRINKS RETAILING’S MOST INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE IN DRINKS LIST

In this sparkling episode of Eat Sleep Wine Repeat, Janina is joined by Cokie Ponikvar – shortlisted (and later winner) for the IWSC Emerging Talent in Wine Communication, Advanced Sommelier, and now on the path to both Master Sommelier and Master of Wine. Known to nearly half a million Instagram followers as Cokie’s World of Wine, Cokie’s infectious passion and disciplined study style have inspired a new wave of wine lovers worldwide. Together they dive into the fascinating world of Champagne vs. Crémant – uncovering why Champagne’s history and terroir make it unique, what the grower Champagne movement means for drinkers, and how eight French regions (plus Luxembourg) produce high-quality Crémant that can rival Champagne at a fraction of the price. Expect insights into blind tasting challenges, producer styles, and practical tips for studying sparkling wine. You’ll also discover: [02:26] – Luxembourg’s Crémant: spotlight on Bernard-Massard, the country’s leading producer [04:43] – How Cokie approaches studying wine and structuring learning.  [05:26] – The most difficult part of passing the Advanced Sommelier exam.  [09:22] – How long it really takes to become a Master Sommelier and Master of Wine.  [11:35] – The “craziest” decision Cokie has considered: attempting both titles simultaneously.  [14:11] – What Champagne truly means to her – and how a visit to Roman-dug caves in Reims changed her perspective forever.   [15:44] – Visiting Champagne houses like Taittinger and Ruinart: history carved into chalk cellars. [21:41] – The rise of grower Champagne: unique stories, pros and cons versus the grandes marques.  [24:14] – Understanding Champagne bottle labelling (RM vs NM codes).  [27:16] – Why Champagne commands higher prices – and when it’s worth it.  [30:07] – Breaking down Crémant: eight French regions and their grape varieties, terroirs, and styles.  [34:00] – Spotlight on Savoie and the Altesse grape: alpine freshness and minerality.  [37:02] – Carcassonne and Limoux: tasting history in the birthplace of sparkling wine.  [38:45] – The challenge of lining up Crémants in comparative tastings – and why producer style matters as much as region.  [42:28] – The purpose of the Crémant appellation and how to use it as a reliable Champagne alternative.  [44:22] – Study tips for identifying sparkling wines in blind tastings.   [46:53] – Making wine inclusive: pronunciation, accessibility, and why wine should be for everyone. Follow Cokie on her Crazy wine journey HERE. 📩 Questions or feedback? Email me: [email protected] 📸 Follow on Instagram: @eatsleep_winerepeat 🎥 YouTube Channel: Eat Sleep Wine Repeat 🌐 More content: www.eatsleepwinerepeat.co.uk Until next time – cheers to you! 🥂   THE EAT SLEEP WINE REPEAT PODCAST HAS BEEN FEATURED IN DECANTER MAGAZINE, RADIO TIMES, AND NAMED BY FEEDSPOT AS THE 6TH BEST UK WINE PODCAST. RECOGNITION: – FINALIST, 67 PALL MALL AWARD FOR BEST GLOBAL WINE COMMUNICATOR IN AUDIO (2025) – SHORTLISTED, IWSC EMERGING TALENT IN WINE COMMUNICATION (2025) – RANKED #18 IN 2024 AND #22 IN 2025 ON DRINKS RETAILING’S MOST INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE IN DRINKS LIST