Ep 1232 | Jase & Lisa Harper Open Up About the Adoption Heartbreak No One Talks About

Jase, Al, and Zach are joined by bestselling author and podcaster Lisa Harper for one of the most emotionally honest conversations ever about lifelong shame, feelings of inadequacy, and adoption highs and lows. Lisa opens up about the heartbreak and long waiting that marked her adoption journey and the exhausting habit of performing spiritually instead of resting in God’s presence. Tears flow as Zach and Jase share their own adoption experiences and rejoice in the reflection of God’s nature through it all.  In this episode: Luke 13, verses 10–17; John 4, verses 1–42; James 1, verse 17; James 1, verse 27; Ephesians 5, verses 22–33; Malachi 2, verses 13–16; John 17, verses 1–26 “Unashamed” Episode 1232 is sponsored by: https://preborn.com/unashamed — Visit the PreBorn! website or dial #250 and use keyword BABY to donate today. https://andrewandtodd.com or call 888-888-1172 — These guys are the real deal. Get trusted mortgage guidance and expertise from someone who shares your values! https://myphdweightloss.com — Find out how Al is finally losing weight! Schedule your one-on-one consultation today by visiting the website or calling 864-644-1900. https://www.puretalk.com/unashamed — Through your generosity PureTalk was able to donate over half a million dollars to America’s Warrior Partnership! http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ — Sign up now for free, and join the Unashamed hosts every Friday for Unashamed Academy Powered by Hillsdale College Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://open.spotify.com/show/3LY8eJ4ZBZHmsImGoDNK2l Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Chapters: 00:00-07:34 Lisa Harper could have been a comedian 07:35-14:40 How Lisa found Jesus & her ministry 14:41-22:28 Trusting God at your lowest point in life 22:29-28:53 God values presence over performance 28:54-40:40 The Bible as a love letter to us 40:41-47:20 Am I good enough to be a parent? 47:21-56:18 The joy & heartbreak of being an adoptive parent — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Uncle Si performs a miracle healing that ends up being more helpful to Jase than anyone could have predicted years later. The guys and Missy reminisce about Phil flexing his creative muscles with his hunting videos, especially the moments when Jase clashed with the cameraman—usually to the delight of everyone else in the blind. Jase and Missy explain why they’re intentional about teaching their kids generosity, sharing the meaningful tradition they still do every year as a family to bless someone in need. In this episode: James 5, verse 16; Acts 20, verse 35; Revelation 12, verse 11 “Unashamed” Episode 1231 is sponsored by: Stand firm for values that matter. Join the fight today at https://www.frc.org/unashamed https://on.auraframes.com/UNASHAMED - get exclusive offer of $35 off Carver Mat with Promo Code UNASHAMED https://www.puretalk.com/unashamed — Through your generosity PureTalk was able to donate over half a million dollars to America’s Warrior Partnership! https://meetfabric.com/unashamed — Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to help protect their family. https://cozyearth.com/unashamed — Get up to 20% off when you use our link or code UNASHAMED!  http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ — Sign up now for free, and join the Unashamed hosts every Friday for Unashamed Academy Powered by Hillsdale College Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-home-with-phil-robertson/id1835224621 Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Chapters:  00:00-06:25 Missy forces Jase to wear matching clothes 06:26-16:34 Jase has the vision of a stick of butter 16:35-24:31 Si performs a miracle healing 24:32-35:51 Missy makes chocolate soup 35:52-43:20 Teaching kids it’s better to give than to receive   43:21-49:08 The spirit of Christmas is real 49:09-57:13 The best gift is sharing Jesus — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Miss Kay declares she’s served her time on kitchen duty, so it’s up to the family to pick up where she left off—sending the family on a quest to resurrect her legendary chocolate cream pie, complete with missing steps, blunt reviews, and classic Robertson food snobbery. Jase admits to a former unhealthy addiction that frustrated Missy to no end. The guys shift from kitchen chaos to Scripture as they explore Jesus’ resurrected body, what the importance was of his eating fish after rising from the dead, and what that promised future means for our own bodies and hope today. In this episode: John 20, verses 10–23; Luke 24, verses 13–35; Luke 24, verses 36–43; Luke 8, verse 2; Genesis 2, verses 8–9; Genesis 3, verse 15; Genesis 3, verse 24; Romans 5, verses 12–21; Romans 6, verse 5; Romans 8, verses 18–25; Ephesians 2, verses 19–22; Ephesians 5, verse 16; 1 Corinthians 15, verses 35–44; 1 Corinthians 15, verses 50–57; Philippians 3, verse 21; 1 John 3, verse 2; Matthew 22, verses 29–30 “Unashamed” Episode 1230 is sponsored by: https://donewithdebt.com — Start building the life you deserve and talk with one of their strategists today. It’s FREE! https://preborn.com/unashamed — Visit the PreBorn! website or dial #250 and use keyword BABY to donate today. https://www.puretalk.com/unashamed — Through your generosity PureTalk was able to donate over half a million dollars to America’s Warrior Partnership this year! https://on.auraframes.com/UNASHAMED — Get exclusive offer of $35 off Carver Mat with Promo Code UNASHAMED http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ — Sign up now for free, and join the Unashamed hosts every Friday for Unashamed Academy Powered by Hillsdale College Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://open.spotify.com/show/3LY8eJ4ZBZHmsImGoDNK2l Chapters: 00:00-10:52 Robertson-style food snobbery is here to stay 10:53-17:28 Miss Kay declares war on frozen pizza 17:29-24:39 Jase’s former addiction confession 24:40-30:44 Ghosts and spirits and demons, oh my!  30:45-40:25 Show me the fish! 40:26-46:43 Looking forward to a heavenly diet 46:44-54:26 How Jesus uses doubters & questioners — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jase reveals how a self-inflicted head mishap left him dizzy and forgetting things for days, and the chaos only worsened when he found himself accidentally trapped in the middle of a small-town parade he never meant to join. A veteran’s gripping war stories demonstrate how vulnerable our bodies may be and how powerful it can be to live an indestructible life in Jesus. The guys jump into Mary’s encounter at the empty tomb, Jesus’ role as both king and high priest, and why God still sends imperfect people to carry the greatest news in the world. In this episode: John 20, verses 1–18; Luke 1, verses 67–79; John 5, verses 39–40; Leviticus 16, verses 3–4 and following; Psalm 16, verse 10; Acts 2, verses 25–33; Hebrews 2, verses 14–15; Hebrews 7, verse 16; Hebrews 13, verses 11–13; Zechariah 6, verses 12–13; 1 Corinthians 15, verses 12–22 “Unashamed” Episode 1229 is sponsored by: Stand firm for values that matter. Join the fight today at https://www.frc.org/unashamed https://tomorrowclubs.org/unashamed — Join this disciple-making movement by supporting Tomorrow Clubs! https://rocketmoney.com/unashamed — Cancel unwanted subscriptions with Rocket Money. The average person saves up to $740 a year when using all of the app's premium features! https://ruffgreens.com — Get a FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag for your dog today when you use promo code Unashamed! https://helixsleep.com/unashamed — Get 20% Off Sitewide! http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ — Sign up now for free, and join the Unashamed hosts every Friday for Unashamed Academy Powered by Hillsdale College Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-home-with-phil-robertson/id1835224621 Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Chapters: 00:00-09:34 Jase concusses himself  09:35-17:00 Two firsts in one day for Jase 17:01-28:33 Why the Ark of the Covenant matters today 28:34-39:21 Being a scapegoat is the worst thing to be 39:22-49:10 Jesus role plays a gardener 49:11-56:02 War stories reveal the power of an indestructible life — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Al and Zach realize Willie’s long-standing penchant for sibling rivalry didn’t stop with his generation as Christian and John Luke face off along their shared property lines. The guys revisit Phil’s tongue-in-cheek warning about a notorious manhood killer  that’s apparently caused years of collateral damage to Robertson landscaping. Studying Saul and David reveals how pride, jealousy, and excuse-making unravel leaders, and what faithful people can do when those in charge keep making the wrong choices.  In this episode: Deuteronomy 17; 1 Samuel 1–4; 1 Samuel 5–12; 1 Samuel 13–18; 1 Samuel 18–2 Samuel 1 Today's conversation is about Lesson 4 of The David Story: Shepherd, Father, King taught by Hillsdale Professor Justin Jackson. Take the course with us at no cost to you! Sign up at ⁠http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/⁠ More about The David Story: Encounter the beauty of the Bible. The David Story: Shepherd, Father, King explores the lives of Israel's first two kings—Saul and David—to discover the Bible’s profound lessons about fatherhood, the nature of sin, and the consequences of sin on both a family and a nation. While David suffers great tragedies due to his own transgressions, he models a path to redemption through repentance. Join Professor Justin Jackson in a careful reading of First and Second Samuel to gain a deeper understanding of the meaning and beauty of this story that is not only fundamental to the Christian and Jewish faiths, but also a literary masterpiece. Join us today in this pursuit of a deeper understanding of the Bible in “The David Story.” Sign up at ⁠http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-home-with-phil-robertson/id1835224621 Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Chapters: 00:00-04:05 Phil’s advice on not losing your manliness 04:06-09:57 Saul makes the wrong choice every single time 09:58-16:50 The seductive trappings of power 16:51-24:17 Taking responsibility for your actions is key 24:18-29:15 Samuel goes full-on Old Testament 29:16-34:20 The problem with Sunday school stories 34:21-39:11 David starts as a DoorDasher 39:12-49:00 David rope-a-dopes Goliath to become king — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jase treats a fallen yard Santa like a full-blown crime scene, sparking an investigation that leads the guys into Matthew’s account of the original resurrection cover-up. They break down the guards’ panicked story, the bribe that launched history’s first disinformation campaign, and why sin can make even smart people believe the most irrational explanations. Al walks through what John and Peter actually “saw” at the empty tomb and how the evidence pushes every person to confront the truth for themselves. In this episode: Matthew 27, verses 62–66; Matthew 28, verses 2–4 and 11–15; Luke 24, verses 36–43; John 20, verses 1–10; Mark 1, verse 15; Luke 19, verses 10–27 and verse 38; Colossians 3, verse 15; 2 Corinthians 4, verses 13–15; Psalm 116, verses 8–15; John 5, verses 24–29; John 11, verses 23–25; 1 Corinthians 15, verses 3–4  “Unashamed” Episode 1227 is sponsored by: Stand firm for values that matter. Join the fight today at https://www.frc.org/unashamed https://www.puretalk.com/unashamed — Get talk, text, and data for just $20 a month! https://ruffgreens.com — Get a FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag for your dog today when you use promo code Unashamed! https://on.auraframes.com/UNASHAMED — Get exclusive offer of $35 off Carver Mat with Promo Code UNASHAMED https://chministries.org/unashamed — See why Christians are ditching health insurance for good. Get a simpler alternative at half the cost! http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ — Sign up now for free, and join the Unashamed hosts every Friday for Unashamed Academy Powered by Hillsdale College Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://open.spotify.com/show/3LY8eJ4ZBZHmsImGoDNK2l Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Chapters: 00:00-09:45 Jase resurrects Santa from the dead 09:46-17:42 Jesus reappears after his resurrection 17:43-27:00 Disciples have a ghost encounter 27:01-37:02 Two kinds of people in the world 37:03-48:06 Mary’s reacts to Jesus’ missing body 48:07-55:55 Fear of suffering keeps us from the resurrection — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jase and Al offer a big holiday update: Miss Kay is thriving and finally joining the family compound, despite the constant online rumors to the contrary. Zach explores Elon Musk’s prediction that work will one day become obsolete thanks to artificial intelligence, and the guys contrast the idea with the vocation God gave humans from the beginning. They dive into why meaningful work is part of our created purpose and how the rising “no kings” mindset misses the one King the resurrection has already revealed. In this episode: Genesis 1, verse 2; Genesis 1, verse 28; Genesis 2, verse 15; Genesis 9, verse 7; Genesis 12, verses 2–3; Exodus 1, verses 6–7; Proverbs 1, verse 26; Proverbs 3, verse 26; Proverbs 3, verse 34; John 20, verses 1–31; Acts 2, verses 25–28; Acts 13, verses 32–37; Romans 1, verses 1–4; Romans 8, verses 18–23 “Unashamed” Episode 1226 is sponsored by: Stand firm for values that matter. Join the fight today at https://www.frc.org/unashamed https://myphdweightloss.com — Find out how Al is finally losing weight! Schedule your one-on-one consultation today by visiting the website or calling 864-644-1900. https://on.auraframes.com/UNASHAMED - get exclusive offer of $35 off Carver Mat with Promo Code UNASHAMED Kimchi One from Brightcore – Improve your health, improve your life. Get 25% Off with code: UNASHAMED at https://mybrightcore.com/unashamed or dial (888) 404-9677 for up to 50% OFF and Free Shipping – ONLY when you call! https://tomorrowclubs.org/unashamed — Join this disciple-making movement by supporting Tomorrow Clubs! http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ — Sign up now for free, and join the Unashamed hosts every Friday for Unashamed Academy Powered by Hillsdale College Chapters: 00:00-05:55 Jase is unarmed & Si admits he flopped 05:56-15:15 Jase’s awful, terrible, no-good day 15:16- 23:29 We have one job here on earth 23:30-29:26 Will Ai eliminate the concept of work? 29:27-41:02 No king except THE king 41:03-55:35 Resurrection is our coronation Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-home-with-phil-robertson/id1835224621 Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jase, Al, and Zach respond to an emotionally raw husband who finally confessed his lifelong porn problem and is now facing the painful fallout. The guys talk honestly about how secrets choke intimacy, why confession hurts before it heals, and how hiding only multiplies the damage that sin has already done. They pivot into Phil’s old “soul-sleep” way of describing death and compare it to Jesus’ promise of paradise and Paul’s glimpses of the world to come. The guys land on why believers can face both confession and death with confidence: in Christ, neither your darkest secret nor your final breath gets the last word. In this episode: John 19, verses 38–42; John 20, verses 19–23; Acts 17, verse 28; Romans 8, verses 10–23; 1 Corinthians 5, verses 1–5; 2 Corinthians 12, verses 1–4; Galatians 5, verses 16–18; Ephesians 2, verse 6; Ephesians 3, verses 16–19; Ephesians 4, verses 9–10; Ephesians 4, verses 4–6; Revelation 1, verses 13–18; Revelation 2, verse 7; Revelation 21, verses 1–4; Revelation 22, verses 1–5 “Unashamed” Episode 1225 is sponsored by: https://covenanteyes.com/unashamed — Try the Victory software free for 30 days!  https://on.auraframes.com/UNASHAMED — Get exclusive offer of $35 off Carver Mat with Promo Code UNASHAMED https://myphdweightloss.com — Find out how Al is finally losing weight! Schedule your one-on-one consultation today by visiting the website or calling 864-644-1900. https://andrewandtodd.com or call 888-888-1172 — These guys are the real deal. Get trusted mortgage guidance and expertise from someone who shares your values! https://preborn.com/unashamed — Visit the PreBorn! website or dial #250 and use the keyword BABY to donate today. http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ — Sign up now for free, and join the Unashamed hosts every Friday for Unashamed Academy Powered by Hillsdale College Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://open.spotify.com/show/3LY8eJ4ZBZHmsImGoDNK2l Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Chapters: 00:00-15:11 When your dirty secrets are exposed 15:12-21:08 A baseball champ comes for dinner 21:09-26:06 Mia comes home for the holidays 26:07-31:16 Facing the consequences of our sins 31:17-42:15 Are we awake after we die? 42:16-50:25 Paradise is a person & a place 50:26-57:12 A present reality with future benefits — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jase comes in fired up after spotting a fake news post about himself, Willie, and Miss Kay — and he’s not moving on until he clears the air. Meanwhile, Al rounds up his brothers and Uncle Si in the duck blind for opening day, and it becomes obvious fast who can actually hunt…and who absolutely cannot. Plus, Jase uncovers something on his property that even a treasure-hunting expert can’t identify — and has a bizarre run-in with a stranger in the middle of nowhere. http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ — Sign up now for free, and join the Unashamed hosts every Friday for Unashamed Academy Powered by Hillsdale College 'Unashamed' episode 1224 is sponsored by: https://ponchooutdoors.com/unashamed — We love our Poncho Outdoors shirts! Get $10 off your first order & free shipping https://preborn.com/unashamed — Visit the PreBorn! website or dial #250 and use keyword BABY to donate today. https://www.puretalk.com/unashamed — Get talk, text, and data for just $20 a month! https://on.auraframes.com/UNASHAMED - get exclusive offer of $35 off Carver Mat with Promo Code UNASHAMED http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ — Sign up now for free, and join the Unashamed hosts every Friday for Unashamed Academy Powered by Hillsdale College Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-home-with-phil-robertson/id1835224621 Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Chapters: 00:00 Jase is FED UP with the latest fake news AI post  04:57 Jase's latest treasure hunt  15:50 First duck season opening day without Phil  24:55 Phil's game warden suspicions  37:00 Zach was an early fan of Jase's teaching & preaching  39:30 Recent baptism story  41:50 Al's sermon alliteration  44:20 Jase's stranger encounter — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Al, Zach, John Luke, and Christian explore the principle of “no kings” and how cultural envy pushed Israel to demand a leader who looked impressive but lacked character and paid for it dearly. The guys  trace the fallout from choosing Saul, contrast it with David’s repentant heart, and show how wanting to resemble other nations sent Israel down a destructive path.  In this episode: Genesis 11; Genesis 12; Genesis 3, verse 24; Genesis 4; Exodus 14; Exodus 16; Exodus 17; Exodus 25; Deuteronomy 17; Joshua 2; Joshua 7; Judges 2; Judges 21; 1 Samuel 4, verses 19–22; 1 Samuel 5; 1 Samuel 6; 1 Samuel 8; 1 Samuel 9; 1 Samuel 10; Jonah 1; Hebrews 12, verses 28–29; Psalm 51; Romans 1 Today's conversation is about Lesson 1 of The David Story: Shepherd, Father, King taught by Hillsdale Professor Justin Jackson. Take the course with us at no cost to you! Sign up at ⁠http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/⁠ More about The David Story: Encounter the beauty of the Bible. The David Story: Shepherd, Father, King explores the lives of Israel's first two kings—Saul and David—to discover the Bible’s profound lessons about fatherhood, the nature of sin, and the consequences of sin on both a family and a nation. While David suffers great tragedies due to his own transgressions, he models a path to redemption through repentance. Join Professor Justin Jackson in a careful reading of First and Second Samuel to gain a deeper understanding of the meaning and beauty of this story that is not only fundamental to the Christian and Jewish faiths, but also a literary masterpiece. Join us today in this pursuit of a deeper understanding of the Bible in “The David Story.” Sign up at ⁠http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-home-with-phil-robertson/id1835224621 Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices