July 12, 2012, part 2

In this interview:• The FBI discuss Keyes's competency and psych evals• Keyes details the creation of his silencer• Keyes discusses various accounts of stalking• Keyes shares his grand plan and dreams of doing something big10th Anniversary Retreathttps://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebrationTROVA TRIP to Sloveniahttps://trovatrip.com/trip/europe/slovenia/slovenia-with-josh-hallmark-jun-2027TROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islandshttps://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027TROVA TRIP to Costa Ricahttps://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026SPONSORS• Quince: Quince.com/TCBS for free shipping and 356-day returns.  • BetterHelp: BetterHelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month.  • Schedule35: Schedule35.co with promo code TCBS for 15% off your first order. • Boll & Branch: BollAndBranch.com/truecrimebs for 20% off.  Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

In this interview:• Keyes tells the FBI about a New York homicide• Keyes details the Tupper Lake bank robbery• Keyes talks about other active areas in New England• The FBI finds out about the boat10th Anniversary Retreathttps://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebrationTROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islandshttps://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027TROVA TRIP to Costa Ricahttps://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026SPONSORS• Quince: Quince.com/TCBS for free shipping and 356-day returns.  • BetterHelp: BetterHelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month.  • Schedule35: Schedule35.co with promo code TCBS for 15% off your first order. • Boll & Branch: BollAndBranch.com/truecrimebs for 20% off.  Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

In this interview:• The FBI detail their four part plan to negotiate their needs and Keyes's• Keyes accidentally hints at several details surrounding his unknown crimes• Keyes grapples with media attention• Keyes starts to spill10th Anniversary Retreathttps://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebrationTROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islandshttps://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027TROVA TRIP to Costa Ricahttps://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026SPONSORS• Quince: Quince.com/TCBS for free shipping and 356-day returns.  • BetterHelp: BetterHelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month.  • Schedule35: Schedule35.co with promo code TCBS for 15% off your first order. • Boll & Branch: BollAndBranch.com/truecrimebs for 20% off.  Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

In this interview:• The FBI goes over items seized from Spurr Lane and Constable• Keyes's early years in Neah Bay• Keyes's early crimes in Colville• Keyes's various watercraft and how he used them in crimes• Keyes's using friends as unwitting accomplices• The Washington state caches• Julie Harris• and more10th Anniversary Retreathttps://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebrationTROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islandshttps://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027TROVA TRIP to Costa Ricahttps://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026SPONSORS• Boll & Branch: BollAndBranch.com/truecrimebs for 20% off. • BetterHelp: BetterHelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month.  • Quince: Quince.com/TCBS for free shipping and 356-day returns.  • Schedule35: Schedule35.co with promo code TCBS for 15% off your first order.   Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

In Retrospective 4, Josh discusses how massive life changes coalesced with the creation of the first season of TCB. How he isolated himself entirely to both heal and get into the head-spaces of the people he'd spent so much time researching and writing about. Plus, what went into creating the season one finale.10th Anniversary Retreathttps://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebrationTROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islandshttps://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027TROVA TRIP to Costa Ricahttps://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026SPONSORS• Quince: Quince.com/TCBS for free shipping and 356-day returns with code TCBS.• BetterHelp: BetterHelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month.  • Schedule35: Schedule35.co with promo code TCBS for 15% off your first order.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

In Retrospective 3, Josh discusses how 24 harrowing hours changed his life and the course of True Crime Bullsh**. He discusses how an incident re-shaped his vision for the first episode of the podcast, and his view on true crime and its darkness. Plus, the impact of that first episode on listeners, and the impact of those listeners on Josh.10th Anniversary Retreathttps://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebrationTROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islandshttps://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027TROVA TRIP to Costa Ricahttps://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026SPONSORS• Boll & Branch: BollAndBranch.com/truecrimebs for 20% off.  • Quince: Quince.com/TCBS for free shipping and 356-day returns with code TCBS.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

Aaron Habel, of Generation Why, has just launched the third season of his long-form investigative podcast Framed. In this season, Aaron looks into the death of Clair County Community College student Scott Macklem as well as the man convicted of his murder, Frederick Freeman. Was Frederick actually responsible for the death of Scott Macklem? Was their sufficient evidence at trial? And what actually happened to Scott? Check out Framed now, wherever you listen to podcasts.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

In this interview, Keyes meets with Detective Murtie from Essex PD to discuss the Currier's double-murder. He also offers insights into his strategies, his home abductions, his MO, his time in Vermont, and more.10th Anniversary Retreathttps://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebrationTROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islandshttps://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027TROVA TRIP to Costa Ricahttps://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026SPONSORS• Boll & Branch: BollAndBranch.com/truecrimebs for 20% off.  • Quince: Quince.com/TCBS for free shipping and 356-day returns.  • BetterHelp: BetterHelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month.  • Schedule35: Schedule35.co with promo code TCBS for 15% off your first order.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

Retrospective 2 takes us to the origin of the investigation; where Josh's interest in storytelling evolved into his obsession of needing to know everything. And it started in a surprising place: a bound book of correspondence between two teenage girls and their landlord. What started as comedic found writing, became a mystery that people could not let go. And as Josh made his way through it, while working on TCB, he learned about investigations and their repercussions.This is parts one and two of The Karen & Ellen Letters, Josh's first full-fledged investigation.10th Anniversary Retreathttps://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebrationTROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islandshttps://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027TROVA TRIP to Costa Ricahttps://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026Cast:Sara Stapleton as KarenSara Kitcher as EllenJeff Powell as MarkMatt Peelen as RobSPONSORS• Boll & Branch: BollAndBranch.com/truecrimebs for 20% off.  • Quince: Quince.com/TCBS for free shipping and 356-day returns with code TCBS.  • Schedule35: Schedule35.co with promo code TCBS for 15% off your first order.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

In the second half of Israel Keyes's 7/12 FBI interview, he discusses trophies, burglaries, arsons, following other serial killers, the women he dated, the relationship between his violent crimes and arsons and robberies, and more. This audio will be incredibly important in season 7 of TCB, launching October 5.10th Anniversary Retreathttps://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebrationTROVA TRIP to Costa Ricahttps://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026TROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islandshttps://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027SPONSORS• Boll & Branch: BollAndBranch.com/truecrimebs for 20% off.  • Quince: Quince.com/TCBS for free shipping and 356-day returns.  • Schedule35: Schedule35.co with promo code TCBS for 15% off your first order.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.