Nexus between human migration, climate change, and conflict with Dr. Chelsea Cervantes De Blois
On this episode of Through the Human Geography Lens, hosts Terri Ryan and Gwyneth Holt talk with Dr. Chelsea Cervantes De Blois, lead climate security expert at the US Department of State.
00:55 Defining Human-Environmental Systems
Coupled Human-Environment Systems
Modelling Climate and Conflict
Tracking climate migration patterns at ClimateMigration.org
Report on internal displacement in a changing climate here.
02:20 Migration drivers: Social, political, economic, cultural, demographic, ecological, and sometimes infrastructure.
02:45 Research on ethnic conflict in Kyrgyzstan and the associated "system" relationships
The 2021 PhD dissertation on Kyrgyzstan by our guest, Dr. Cervantes De Blois, is here.
05:05 Understanding the data you have, and whether it's the data you need.
06:15 A major problem in assessing climate migration data: a lack of standardization for describing a climate refugee.
A discussion of the definition of "climate refugee"
08:15 A lack of comprehensive datasets requires creative thinking.
09:50 People may not realize that they're in the middle of a climate-driven migration
Award-winning July 2020 New York Times Magazine long-form interactive article on Climate Migration
10:35 Counting the "invisibles"
Risks of missing the invisibles in environmental migration research (2021 Nature article, open-access)
11:55 Recognizing a "mental migration" in reporting, and standardizing tools and terms for climate migration across shared disciplines.
A seminal discussion of Migration Psychology
13:30 Why is this topic, climate migration, important across so many disciplines?
14:35 Why not just devise better tools and methods? Why is standardization difficult?
COP 27 in Sharm el-Sheikh, Egypt, 06-18 November 2022
What, really, is a PhD Dissertation? Useful description from Purdue University.
"The more you learn, the less you actually know"
17:20 "Mixed Methodist" as a human geographer. Extracting definitions
18:40 Climate-Migration nexus framework
Exploring the Climate Change, Migration, and Conflict Nexus
21:25 Hopes for the Climate and Migration event at State on 15 November.
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