The Unquote Private Equity Podcast podcast

Navigating NAV financing with 17Capital

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Mergermarket’s funds editor Harriet Matthews speaks to Pierre-Antoine de Selancy, managing partner and co-founder of net asset value (NAV) lender 17Capital, about the evolution of NAV financing and its use cases in the current market, as well as wider industry reservations about the use of this type of leverage.

The use of and interest in NAV financing has been growing in recent years. In times of restricted liquidity and a tough fundraising market, GPs can use this tool for situations including refinancing a group of portfolio companies to take advantage of M&A opportunities.

De Selancy addresses some of the questions that LPs have around NAV financing, arguing that using leverage is a core skill of private equity professionals in creating value for investors, and the use of NAV financing is part of this process. “If limited partners are worried about GPs putting in place debt, they should not be investing in private equity,” he said.

90% of the money used in NAV financing goes into portfolio companies, whereas 10% is used to make distributions, he said, playing down concerns around “fake DPI”. “It’s not a competitive world – it’s an ultra-competitive world,” he said, noting that LPs now have more choice than ever and are applying increasing scrutiny to how GPs are creating value and balancing this with risk. It is important that GPs “do the right thing” for their LPs, he said, emphasizing the importance of communication.

Lastly, de Selancy discusses the future of NAV financing as a “new niche” and “the fastest growing market in private credit”, features which are likely to drive the growth of 17Capital itself.

0:39 – Introduction

2:54 – Interview with Pierre-Antoine de Selancy

  • 3:26 – 17Capital’s strategy
  • 4:49 – Current use cases for NAV financing
  • 7:13 – NAV financing versus continuation funds
  • 11:27 – Cost of capital dynamics
  • 14:42 – NAV financing and LP sentiment
  • 25:49 – What’s next for the NAV lending industry?
  • 28:20 – 17Capital’s future growth

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