Kenyon Martin Sr. former NBA All-Star known for his aggressive defensive play, tone-setting leadership, navigating life after basketball, an outspoken sports voice, player vs the man and shares pride as father watching son play in the NBA

“Trying to change that perception has been the most challenging thing post career…It was K-Mart the player and Kenyon the person. I didn’t let a lot of people know Kenyon the person.” Kenyon Martin Sr The former NBA All-Star, No. 1 overall pick, and one of the most relentless competitors of his era, Kenyon Martin Sr. sits down with The Pivot Podcast for a powerful, unfiltered conversation about basketball, family, and the evolution of manhood. From his rise out of Dallas to leading the New Jersey Nets to back-to-back NBA Finals, Kenyon reflects on the edge and intensity that defined his playing career—and how that same fire often shaped how he was perceived. Now, with greater perspective, he opens up about the difference between being seen as a player versus being understood as a man. He opens up about the power of his voice now, how he strives to speak from experience and how his biggest post-career challenge is being able to show the world the difference from K-Mart the player vs Kenyon the person.... The conversation takes on new depth as Kenyon discusses watching his son, Kenyon Martin Jr., carve out his own NBA journey. He speaks candidly about fatherhood, pride, restraint, and the responsibility of letting your child become their own person while still standing firm in loyalty and protection as a parent. Beyond the game, Kenyon shares lessons on accountability, family-first values, standing on principle, and how growth sometimes requires rewriting narratives—both public and personal. This episode is about legacy, love, and learning when to pivot without losing who you are. 🎙️ Raw. Reflective. Real. Kenyon Martin Sr.—beyond the jersey. Pivot Family, let us know what you think, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we appreciate you sticking with us! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“You gotta always believe. When you get knocked down off your feet, there’s just something that lights your fire and makes you keep getting up and fighting, just to keep going because you have a purpose.” Malcolm Butler 2x Super Bowl Champion  In this special episode of The Pivot Podcast live from Disney's Animal Kingdom, Malcolm Butler joins Ryan, Channing, and Fred for a deeply personal and behind-the-scenes story leading up to one of the most iconic moments in NFL history. Butler relives his “magical” Super Bowl XLIX interception vs Russell Wilson—the split-second decision that changed his life, secured the Patriots’ championship, and delivered him sports' famous words- "Im going to Disney World." Malcolm opens up about what it was like to go from undrafted rookie to national hero overnight, from working at Popeyes to signing with the Patriots to playing for Bill Belichick, He shares the mindset he developed on and off the field and explains how one can never truly being prepared for a singular moment but can always being ready to compete. He reveals life lessons from Tom Brady, Julian Edelman, Gronk and Danny Amendola that helped shape the man he is today. Although his storied NFL career started magical and yielded him two Super Bowl rings, Malcolm shares the hard times and reveals the emotions behind sitting out vs the Patriots loss to Eagles in SBLII and how the pain truly affected him. From the locker room interactions to the surreal whirlwind of fame, Malcolm shares powerful insights on trust, readiness, and believing in yourself when the world doubts you. Now in his post NFL life, Malcolm is passing on his experiences sharing that coaching high school football and being a father prove to be the most rewarding aspect of his life. Authentic, inspiring, and full of raw reflection—this conversation shows a side of Malcolm Butler you’ve never heard before. Tap in as The Pivot takes you right into the heart of the magic that makes us all believe anything worth having and working for is possible. Pivot Family, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button. Special thank you to our partners and friends at Disney World, Check out special offers and more information about visiting Walt Disney World here: http://di.sn/60037CGsf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I feel like no one believes in me and that’s my approach. I got the underdog mentality and that’s what I’ll have all my life.” Diego Pavia We headed to Nashville to sit with one of sports' biggest breakout stars who's improbable journey has landed him in the national spotlight and on this episode of The Pivot Podcast, we learn more about one of the most electrifying and unlikely stars in college football today—Diego Pavia. Once an undersized and overlooked kid grinding his way through JUCO ball, Pavia’s journey to the national spotlight is nothing short of remarkable as he just etched himself a part of history being named a 2025 Heisman Finalist. He opens up about how he went from fighting for reps at a junior college to becoming the quarterback who completely transformed the culture at Vanderbilt, leading the Commodores to relevance in the SEC and putting the program back on the map. Despite a season worthy of national recognition—and even securing a spot as a Heisman Trophy finalist—Pavia and Vandy were hit with a controversial College Football Playoff snub that sent shockwaves through the sport. Diego talks candidly about the fire that keeps him going, tracing it back to his upbringing, the sacrifices made by his mom, and the constant motivation he draws from his brother. It’s a story of grit, doubt, resilience, and belief—proof that heart can take you where pedigree can’t. From JUCO fields to SEC stadiums, from being overlooked to becoming a household name, Diego Pavia’s rise is one of the most compelling stories in college football—and he shares it all right here on The Pivot. Pivot Family, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button- we love hearing from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“If you get on cruise control and let everything start festering, it’s gonna find a way to get out somehow…everybody makes mistakes, I made one and I apologized for it and moved on, and I’m better for it now.” Desmond Bane In one of the most authentic and real conversations we've had on The Pivot Podcast, Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor, and Channing Crowder sit with Orlando Magic star Desmond Bane — a player whose journey is as powerful as his jump shot and deep roots that have grounded him since day one. With humility at his core in all he does, Bane's talents have often been overshadowed by his quiet demeanor but this off season his value was at the forefront, when Orlando traded for the young star solidifying his place as one of the top players in the NBA. Bane opens up about the early adversity that fueled his rise, the overlooked beginnings that pushed him to grind harder than the next guy, and the deep bond he built with Ja Morant in Memphis — a brotherhood formed through shared battles, growth, and the pressures of leading a young franchise. Now, after a blockbuster trade to Orlando, Bane talks candidly about embracing a new chapter and the responsibility of being a cornerstone for a young Magic squad. He opens up on how it took a little while trying to find his place in a new arena and gives context to the uncharacteristic game ejection early on, and shares what one thing clicked that has fueled his explosive run, including his back-to-back 37-point performances that set the tone for what’s becoming a breakout year in his new uniform and has his team 4-0 in the NBA Cup. Raised by his grandparents in the tight-knit community of Richmond, Indiana, Bane reflects on how small-town values, discipline, and love shaped the competitor and man he is today. It wasn't an easy path and the young star reveals his personal anxiety battles and how he redefined his path. He talks about the pain of loss and how his wife and kids helped him redefine purpose after grieving from so much change. And in a rare pivotal moment on the show, Desmond flips the conversation to Ryan, Channing and Fred, asking them how life is for them and how they have handled certain changes....truly a powerful part of the episode. Authentic, honest, and inspiring, this conversation captures Desmond Bane at a pivotal moment — reflecting on where he came from, honoring the people who raised him, and stepping boldly into the player he’s proving he can be. Pivot Family, please like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we love hearing from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Some of the best decisions I’ve made in my life have been rooted in faith where I couldn’t give a guarantee but I had faith and some of the worst decisions I’ve made in my life were rooted in fear.” Governor Wes Moore In this inspiring and wide-ranging conversation, Maryland Governor Wes Moore joins The Pivot Podcast to discuss leadership, purpose, and the personal journey that shaped his historic path to the governor’s office. Moore opens up to Ryan, Channing and Fred about his upbringing, his time in the military, and the pivotal moments that pushed him toward public service. He reflects on the challenges of leading a state during times of rapid change, the responsibilities of being Maryland’s first Black governor, and his commitment to expanding opportunity for all communities. Going in-depth, Moore shares the story behind writing his best-selling novel shaped how he views the world, based on the experience of 2 men with the same name who lived two different fates: one ended up doing life in prison while the other was a road scholar who became Governor. A journey rooted in faith not fear, Moore shares the key choices he made over his lifetime to give him the courage and strength to emphasize service over self. Throughout the episode, Moore’s trademark energy and clarity shine as he talks about balancing ambition with humility, the importance of mentorship, and what it means to create lasting impact. He shares his inspiring love story with wife Dawn, raising a family in the public eye while emphasizing the values that built their marriage, the support they’ve given each other through demanding careers, and the joy and purpose he finds in being a husband and father. And of course we talk football! From Maryland sports to the Baltimore Ravens to the AFC North to the true spirit and rivalry of the Army Navy game. Whether you’re interested in politics, personal growth, or stories of resilience, this conversation offers a thoughtful look at one of the country’s most dynamic political leaders. Pivot Family, tap in, like, hit subscribe and comment, we love hearing from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“The most dangerous person is one who truly believes in himself..." Darren Woodson 3x Super Bowl Champion It's Thanksgiving week and we have a lot to be grateful for Pivot Family and can't celebrate this holiday without talking about gratitude, family and of course football. And when we talk Thanksgiving football- we have to talk Dallas Cowboys. In this episode of The Pivot Podcast, Cowboys star Darren Woodson joins Ryan, Channing, and Fred for a raw, unfiltered conversation that dives deep into the dynasty years in Dallas and the life lessons that shaped him on and off the field. Known as one of the toughest safeties to ever play the game, Woodson pulls back the curtain on what it was really like lining up alongside legends like Deion Sanders, Larry Allen, Michael Irvin. and Troy Aikman during one of the most iconic eras in NFL history. Woodson brings the locker room to life with stories of competing with Irvin’s relentless intensity, Aikman’s leadership standard, Deion’s unmatched swagger, and the brotherhood that held the team together through championship runs. He also shares his firsthand perspective on the infamous Leon Lett Thanksgiving game moment, revealing how it felt on the field, how the team reacted, and why that play became one of the most unforgettable—and teachable—moments in Cowboys history but also a defining moment of who Jimmy Johnson is not just as a coach but a man. He speaks candidly of Jerry Jones and shares insight that we don't see as we often criticize and publicize the way he has built one of the most profound sports organizations. Beyond the highlights and headlines, Woodson opens up about identity, transitions, fatherhood, and building a purpose-driven life after football. From the mental toughness learned on the gridiron to the vulnerability required in the next chapters of his life, this episode shows Darren Woodson as more than a three-time Super Bowl champion—he’s a leader still evolving. Authentic, emotional, and full of championship-level storytelling, this conversation is a must-listen for fans of the game and anyone striving to redefine themselves beyond their greatest successes. It’s a masterclass in resilience and reinvention from one of the league’s all-time great competitors. Have a safe and happy holiday season from our Pivot family to yours, please take a moment to like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we are extremely grateful for your support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I think you have to have a big ego in business and in sports but I use mine to want to protect myself from failure. Ego makes me not want to fail, it’s a motivator, my ego doesn’t want me to be laughed at or labeled a failure.” Zak Brown CEO of McLaren Racing The 2025 F1 season is winding down with three races left to go and McLaren has already won its 2nd Consecutive Constructors’ Championship with the chance for their drivers to finish 1st and 2nd. At the helm of all this success is CEO Zak Brown, a high school dropout from California that pursued his passion for motor sports and turned around McLaren Racing.  On this episode of The Pivot Podcast, hosts Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor, and Channing Crowder sit down with  Zak Brown for an unfiltered conversation on leadership, risk-taking, and the relentless pursuit of speed—both on and off the track. Zak pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to transform one of the most iconic organizations in motorsport, from rebuilding McLaren’s Formula 1 program to cultivating a culture where innovation thrives, no blame is placed and a team first mantra. He talks candidly about navigating high-pressure decisions, the realities of competing at the sport’s highest level, and how he balances business strategy with his pure passion for racing. The conversation amps up as Zak talks about Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri’s fierce but healthy internal rivalry, explaining how their push to beat each other is exactly what drives the team closer to the front of the grid. With only a few races left, McLaren is eyeing a 1st, 2nd finish for the 2025 season, hoping to prove doubters wrong with a drama-free relationship between his two drivers that sit atop the sport- a no favoritism, no fighting approach. From the dynamics inside the garage to the strategic vision for the future, Zak gives rare insight into what it takes to manage two hungry, elite-level drivers chasing the same trophy. Zak dives into the inspiration behind his new book, sharing the lessons, setbacks, and bold decisions that shaped his journey from young racing enthusiast to the executive steering one of motorsport’s most iconic teams. He reveals the mindset shifts that fueled McLaren’s resurgence and why embracing risk is often the only real path forward. From bold driver signings to the future of electric racing and what winning means in today’s F1 landscape, this episode offers a rare look at the mindset of a global sports executive who isn’t afraid to bet big. Whether you're a Formula 1 fanatic, a business leader, or someone inspired by reinvention, Zak Brown’s journey shows exactly what it means to pivot with conviction. Pivot Family, don't forget too comment, like and hit subscribe! A special thanks to our partners at Jack Daniels for sponsoring this conversation and inviting us to be apart of their F1 partnership with McLaren, Las Vegas has been exciting and we wish the best of luck to Lando and Oscar down the finish! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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“I’m at peace with who I am. I am extremely comfortable in my own skin, I am extremely comfortable with the consequences of my life…I’m not chasing anything or trying to stay relevant, I’m just being myself.” Steve Smith Sr. In this powerful and unfiltered episode of The Pivot Podcast, former NFL star Steve Smith Sr. sits down with Ryan Clark, Channing Crowder, and Fred Taylor for a raw, emotional, and brutally honest conversation about the journey that shaped him and discovering peace from ultimate pain. Known for his relentless competitive fire and fearless attitude on the field, Steve opens up about the battles no one saw—his upbringing, the chips on his shoulder, and the emotional scars that fueled his greatness. From rising as an undersized third-round pick to becoming one of the most explosive receivers in NFL history, Steve breaks down the mentality that kept him fighting long after others would have quit. He discusses his struggles with anger, the importance of mental health, and how he learned to redefine manhood, fatherhood, and purpose beyond the game. The conversation covers accountability, discovering true self, the pressure of public life, and the consequences of actions off the field. Steve addresses the explosive social media allegations that surfaced in February 2025, when a man publicly accused him of having an affair with his wife. In a fury, personal messages and voice calls were released leading to swift and strenuous fallout. Through it all, Steve has largely remained silent in public — but he breaks that silence with the guys as he unpacks the emotional weight of the accusations, his reaction when confronted, embarrassment and how this controversy affected his family and ultimately his own marriage. From the highs of football royalty to the lows of fame and fallout, this conversation gives an inside look at a rock bottom moments to rebuilding from the ground up. Insightful, vulnerable, and at times hilarious, this episode showcases the side of Steve Smith Sr. fans rarely see. It’s a conversation about growth, accountability, and the power of owning your story. Whether you’re a football fan or simply someone navigating your own journey, Steve’s words will hit home. Pivot Family, don't forget to like, subscribe and comment, we love hearing from you! Thanks to Chomps for sponsoring this convo: Go to⁠ https://chomps.com/PIVOT or use code PIVOT to get 15% off your Chomps order and free shipping! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Manufacturing joy is exhausting..."Ryan Clark November is Men's Health Awareness month and a good opportunity for us to check in with each other, check in with our loved ones and have tough conversations that generate awareness. Ryan, Channing and Fred discuss the recent passing of NFL player Marshawn Kneeland and how mental health doesn't discriminate from the rich, the successful or the ones who seem to have it all. And often, times are heavier, as people try to navigate everyday life with how they are supposed to be perceived vs how it really is. Each of the guys opens up and shares what they struggle with and the ways they try to seek help when going through tough times. We talk about the pressures and struggles of athletes in this time and get into the athlete owned platforms vs former athlete's who have platforms as the media landscape continues to change where more and more people respond directly as the source and the increasing need for people to respond to everything and anything. We have a little fun and get into it when a topic that Ryan and Fred find themselves on one side while Channing surprisingly is on the other side of it, making sense of a situation that RC and Fred can't even begin to comprehend- If you pass away, is it ok for your best friend to date or marry your spouse? We discuss! Pivot Family, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we love hearing from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices