A short Update on the Circular Coffee Break

Three years ago, circularity was still being run out of sustainability teams. What has changed since, and why are supply chain professionals suddenly the ones driving it?In this episode of Circular Coffee Break, Michael welcomes back Deborah Dull, Managing Partner at Trillium Digital Services, founder of the Circular Supply Chain Network, and one of the leading voices in circular supply chains. Deborah first joined the show in Season 1 back in January 2023, and a lot has happened since.Deborah explains why circularity has shifted from a sustainability initiative to an operations strategy. She describes how de-manufacturing is becoming a local sourcing strategy, why "sovereignty of materials" resonates from Washington to Beijing, and why recycling, sixty years in, remains the circle of last resort. She shares real examples, from Toyota's 300-mile car disassembly operation in the UK to AWS disassembling and upgrading data center servers, and introduces the Circular Supply Chain Network's concept of the hundred-mile supply chain.Together, Michael and Deborah dig into the hard parts of scaling. They discuss the chicken-and-egg problem of supply and demand for secondary materials, why volume guarantees and industry coalitions may be the missing market signal, and why supply chain professionals still aren't being given a clear problem statement. They also explore the infrastructure gap, from second-chance employment as decentralized urban mining to the tariffs and policies that may quietly build the circular economy, and why AI and agentic systems may be the only way circular supply chains will ever truly scale.Why listen?Understand why circularity has moved from sustainability teams into operations, and why that changes everything.Learn why recycling should be the circle of last resort, and where the real value sits on the butterfly diagram.Hear practical examples of circular supply chains at work today, from car disassembly to data center remanufacturing.Discover how volume guarantees, industry coalitions, and policy instruments can create the market signals secondary materials need.Explore how second-chance employment can regenerate communities while solving the de-manufacturing labor gap.Find out why AI and agent-to-agent coordination may be the key to scaling circular supply chains beyond manual matchmaking.Whether you work in supply chain, sourcing, sustainability, or policy, or you're simply curious how we get from promising pilots to circular supply chains that actually scale, this conversation offers a pragmatic, operationally grounded view of where circularity is heading next.Keywords: circular supply chain, circular economy, circularity, sustainable operations, secondary materials, remanufacturing, de-manufacturing, urban mining, recycled materials, material sovereignty, supply chain resilience, local sourcing, hundred-mile supply chain, volume guarantees, industrial symbiosis, circular markets, second-chance employment, supply chain sustainability, AI in supply chain, agentic AI, tariffs, CBAM, Toyota circular economy, AWS remanufacturing, Deborah Dull, Circular Supply Chain Network, Trillium Digital Services, Circular Coffee Break podcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What does it take to transform one of the world’s most polluting industries from within? In this episode of Circular Coffee Break, Emilia Gädda, Chief Advisor of Sustainability and Circular Economy at Finnish Textile and Fashion, shares her insights on the challenges and opportunities of circular fashion. With over a decade of experience in sustainability, ESG, and supply chain management, Emilia explores the systemic shifts required to make fashion truly circular, from policy and innovation to consumer behaviour and industry collaboration.Emilia reflects on the paradoxes of sustainable fashion, such as the gap between consumer demand for sustainability and unwillingness to pay a premium, and the tension between global supply chains and local circular solutions. She discusses the role of second-hand markets, the need for research-based policy, and why technology and digitalization are critical but not sufficient on their own. She also highlights the determination of Finnish companies to lead the change, despite legislative ups and downs, and shares her optimism for the next generation of consumers and industry leaders.Why listen?Understand the systemic challenges of circular fashion, from supply chain complexities to economic structures.Explore the role of consumers in driving change and how individual choices can influence industry-wide transformation.Learn about the opportunities and limitations of secondhand markets, technology, and policy in advancing circularity.Discover why collaboration between industry, regulators, and consumers is essential for meaningful progress.Gain insights into the Finnish textile industry’s approach to sustainability and its potential to inspire global change.Whether you are a consumer, a professional in the fashion industry, or simply interested in the future of sustainable textiles, Emilia’s perspective offers a practical and thought-provoking look at the path toward circular fashion.Keywords: circular fashion, sustainable textiles, ESG, supply chain sustainability, secondhand clothing, consumer behavior, fashion industry, policy and innovation, Finnish textile industry, digital product passport, textile recycling, systemic change, Emilia Gädda, Circular Coffee Break Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What does it take to build a circular economy for plastics in practice? In this episode of The Circular Coffee Break, Jaakko Tuomainen, Sustainability Manager at Borouge International and former leader of Borealis’ SPIRIT programme, shares insights into one of Finland’s most ambitious initiatives to increase plastic waste recycling rates and create high-quality recyclates.Jaakko reflects on the SPIRIT programme’s journey, from its design to its implementation, and the lessons learned along the way. He discusses the importance of collaboration across industries, the role of policy in driving demand for circular products, and the technological advancements that are making circular plastics a reality. With concrete examples from trials with companies like Valio and Froneri, Jaakko highlights how the programme addressed challenges in feedstock innovation, offtake demand, and economic viability. He also explores the future of circular plastics, the remaining barriers to scaling, and why creating viable business cases is the next critical step.Why listen?Understand how the SPIRIT programme aimed to transform Finland’s plastics value chain through collaboration and innovation.Explore the balance between policy-driven change and bottom-up innovation in circular economy initiatives.Learn about the technological advancements in mechanical and chemical recycling that are enabling circular plastics.Discover concrete examples of circular principles in action, from trials with major companies to consumer-facing products.Gain insights into the economic challenges of scaling circular initiatives and the importance of creating demand for recycled materials.Whether you are a sustainability professional, a business leader, or simply interested in the future of circular economy, Jaakko’s story offers a thoughtful and practical perspective on the opportunities and challenges of building a circular plastics ecosystem. Read more on the SPIRIT Programme website or in the Final Report.Keywords: circular economy, plastics recycling, SPIRIT programme, circular plastics, sustainability, Finland, Borealis, Borouge International, mechanical recycling, chemical recycling, feedstock innovation, offtake demand, policy and regulation, collaboration, circular business models, Jaakko Tuomainen, The Circular Coffee Break Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Energy efficiency in buildings is often framed as a cost, but what if it could be the most profitable decision a business makes? In this episode of Circular Coffee Break, Michael speaks with Nikolas Salomaa, Founder and CEO of nollaE, about how profitability can drive circularity in the built environment. Nikolas shares his journey from entrepreneur to innovator in energy-efficient and circular HVAC solutions, and how his company’s software identifies the most cost-effective and sustainable measures for each building.Nikolas explains why financial viability is critical to scaling energy efficiency and circularity. He reflects on his time at Savumax, a company that developed zero-carbon housing products but ultimately went bankrupt due to market resistance. At nollaE, he has shifted the focus to engineering solutions that are both sustainable and economically compelling, proving that circularity in buildings can be achieved without sacrificing profitability.The conversation also explores how digital tools and data-driven approaches enable nollaE to reuse HVAC equipment across projects, reducing costs and waste while maintaining energy efficiency. Nikolas provides a concrete example of a project where reusing equipment and optimizing energy systems saved a building owner nearly 1.4 million euros, demonstrating that circularity and profitability can go hand in hand.Why listen?Learn how profitability can catalyze sustainability in the building industry.Understand the role of software and data in identifying the most efficient energy solutions for buildings.Explore how circular economy principles apply to HVAC systems and the built environment.Hear about the challenges of market resistance to innovation and how nollaE addresses them.Discover real-world examples of cost savings and energy efficiency achieved through circular solutions.Whether you are a building engineer, sustainability professional, or simply interested in how circularity and profitability can coexist, this episode offers practical insights into the future of sustainable buildings.Keywords: energy efficiency, circular economy, HVAC systems, sustainability in buildings, profitability-driven sustainability, nollaE Oy, Nikolas Salomaa, building retrofits, digital tools for energy efficiency, circular HVAC solutions, cost savings in construction, sustainable building practices, energy simulation software, reuse of HVAC equipment, Circular Coffee Break Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What does it take to transition from linear to circular systems in urban planning and infrastructure? In this episode of Circular Coffee Break, Tuija Pakkanen, Portfolio Lead for Circular Growth and Business Renewal in Regenerative Living and Transport at VTT Technical Research Centre of Finland, shares her journey from forest management to shaping sustainable cities. With a background in geography, GIS, and digital twins, Tuija explores how data and innovation can drive systemic change in the built environment.Tuija reflects on her work in Finland’s national digital twin for the built environment (RYHTI), the challenges of interoperability in urban planning, and the role of collaboration in scaling circular solutions. She discusses the importance of human-centric design, the balance between policy and bottom-up innovation, and why resilience, both in materials and knowledge, is critical for Europe’s future. From dismantling buildings to giving them a voice through digital tools, her work bridges the gap between research and real-world impact.Why listen?Understand how digital twins and data interoperability can unlock circularity in urban planning.Explore the human and technological dimensions of regenerative living and transport.Learn about the role of resilience in circular economies, from materials to geopolitical knowledge.Discover practical examples of circular growth in action, from material reuse to AI-driven building management.Gain insights into the balance between policy, innovation, and collaboration in driving systemic change.Whether you are a sustainability professional, urban planner, or simply curious about the future of circular cities, Tuija’s perspective offers a grounded and actionable take on rethinking how we build, live, and thrive.Keywords: circular economy, regenerative living, sustainable urban planning, digital twins, built environment, GIS, interoperability, circular growth, resilience, VTT, Tuija Pakkanen, Circular Coffee Break, urban innovation, material reuse, data-driven sustainability, collaboration in sustainability Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Circular Coffee Break was never meant to end. After 80 episodes and a community that refused to let the conversation fade, we are back with a renewed focus. This season, under the theme Circularity 2.0, we explore why the world needs circularity now and how we are evolving to meet the moment. From circular growth to business renewal, we dive into the ideas, people, and actions shaping a future where sustainability is not a niche but a necessity. Tune in to hear:The story behind our return and what has changed since we pausedWhy circularity is now the core principle of competitive businessA preview of the conversations and perspectives coming this season This is for the curious, the bold, and the doers. The conversation starts now. Subscribe, rate, and join the movement. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

After three years and over eighty conversations, The Circular Coffee Break comes to a close. This final solo episode is not a recap but a reflection on why the podcast existed, what was learned, and why it feels right to end it now.Host Michael Hanf shares the origins of the podcast, which began in early 2023 with a simple intention: to slow down the conversation around circularity and sustainability. At the time, much of the public discussion felt fragmented, fast, and overly focused on frameworks and targets. The Circular Coffee Break was created as a space for long-form conversations with people working on circularity in practice, across business, policy, research, and entrepreneurship. The metaphor of a coffee break was intentional—a moment to pause, think out loud, explore trade-offs, and sit with uncertainty rather than presenting circularity as a linear journey from problem to solution.Over the course of these conversations, several patterns became clear:Circularity is rarely a technical problem. The technologies exist, the models are known, and the data is improving. The harder challenges lie in governance, incentives, organizational boundaries, and decision-making.Circularity is a team sport. Progress depends on coordination, trust, and shared direction across many actors, each playing different but critical roles.Progress is uneven but not absent. Meaningful advances are happening, often quietly and in specific contexts, while inertia persists at scale.Context matters. What works in one sector or region does not automatically translate elsewhere. Circularity is not a blueprint but a direction of travel that looks different depending on where you start.Circularity is increasingly strategic. Conversations often touched on resilience, supply risks, competitiveness, and long-term value creation, not just environmental concerns.So why end The Circular Coffee Break now? The simplest answer is that this format has done what it set out to do. It created a body of conversations that captured a specific moment in how circular economy and sustainability were being understood and practiced. Continuing the podcast would either lead to repetition or require a shift that no longer fits its original purpose. Ending deliberately is a form of focus and discipline.This is not a pause, nor a rebranding. It is a clean ending. The archive will remain available, and it is hoped that it continues to be useful as a record of conversations that tried to engage honestly with complexity rather than simplifying it.Michael’s work continues through a separate podcast called Matters of Consequence, which takes a broader lens on the systems change needed in a never-normal world to make companies, institutions, and organizations future-ready.Before closing, Michael expresses his gratitude to the guests who trusted the space enough to think out loud, to the listeners who stayed with the long conversations and nuances, and to everyone who shared episodes, challenged ideas, or carried the conversations forward in their own work.For The Circular Coffee Break, this episode marks a clear and intentional ending.Keywords: circular economy, sustainability, reflection, purpose, Circular Coffee Break, Michael Hanf, Matters of Consequence, podcast, circularity, strategic circularity, progress, context, governance, decision-making Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What does it take to build a circular business in practice? In this final interview episode of The Circular Coffee Break, we welcome back Jaakko Nauha, CEO of Tracegrow, who was the very first guest on the podcast in early 2023. Almost three years later, Jaakko returns to reflect on Tracegrow’s journey from a battery recycling innovator to a broader clean technology company, and what it really means to scale circular solutions in the real world.Jaakko shares how Tracegrow has evolved from recovering micronutrients like zinc and manganese from used alkaline batteries to processing industrial side streams, such as manganese sludge from zinc smelters. He discusses the company’s expansion into seed treatment, which has shown remarkable results in improving crop resilience and yield, as well as the development of battery-grade manganese sulfate for electric vehicles and industrial energy storage systems. The conversation also explores the challenges of finding product-market fit in agriculture, entering the European battery ecosystem, and scaling under regulatory, logistical, and cost constraints.Why listen?Discover how Tracegrow has expanded from battery recycling to processing broader industrial side streams.Learn about the company’s move into seed treatment and the impact on crop resilience and yield.Explore the development of battery-grade manganese sulfate and its role in electric vehicles and energy storage.Understand the challenges of scaling circular solutions under real-world constraints, from regulation to logistics.Gain insights into Jaakko’s journey from business development to CEO and what it takes to lead a circular business.Whether you are an entrepreneur, a sustainability leader, or simply curious about the realities of building and scaling circular businesses, this episode offers practical insights and inspiring reflections from the frontlines of circular innovation.Keywords: circular economy, Tracegrow, Jaakko Nauha, circular business, battery recycling, industrial side streams, seed treatment, battery-grade manganese, electric vehicles, energy storage, scaling circularity, product-market fit, regulatory challenges, logistics, leadership Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What does it take to move circularity from ambition to action? In this episode of The Circular Coffee Break, we welcome Filipe Camaño Garcia, Lead of the Global Circularity Protocol (GCP) at the World Business Council for Sustainable Development (WBCSD). Filipe shares the story behind the GCP, a groundbreaking framework designed to do for resources what the Greenhouse Gas Protocol did for emissions: provide a globally aligned, science-based approach to measure, manage, and communicate circular performance.Filipe dives into the journey of creating the GCP, from its origins at Stockholm+50 to its launch at COP30 in Brazil. He discusses the challenges of balancing a holistic, cross-sectoral approach with the need for industry-specific relevance, and how the protocol empowers companies to move from fragmented pilots to scalable, comparable circular strategies. The conversation also explores the role of the GCP in reframing circularity as a strategic lever for competitiveness, resilience, and long-term value creation, and what success looks like as the protocol evolves.Why listen?Discover the story behind the Global Circularity Protocol and why it was created to address the fragmentation in circular economy efforts.Learn how the GCP provides a common language and framework for companies to measure, manage, and communicate circular performance.Explore the challenges of balancing a cross-sectoral approach with industry-specific needs and how the GCP addresses them.Understand how the GCP reframes circularity as a strategic tool for de-risking supply chains and driving business value.Gain insights into the future of the GCP, its potential impact, and how it can help scale circularity from ambition to action.Whether you are a business leader, a sustainability professional, or simply curious about how to turn circular ambition into measurable impact, this episode offers practical insights and inspiring stories from the frontlines of global circularity efforts.Keywords: circular economy, Global Circularity Protocol, Filipe Camaño Garcia, WBCSD, circular performance, circular metrics, cross-sectoral collaboration, strategic circularity, supply chain resilience, COP30, circular framework, circular impact, circular measurement Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This short episode shares an update on the future of The Circular Coffee Break.Host Michael Hanf explains the decision to bring the podcast to a close in February 2026, what listeners can expect from the remaining episodes, and what will happen to the existing archive. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.