"Two Beats Off" with Benjy and Stephen Rickard

The Alphabetical Fugazi Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/683484258762720 This Is Not a Fugazi Appreciation Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/Fugazi.appreciation.group Visualizing the History of Fugazi by Carni Klirs https://www.carniklirs.com/project/fugazi Gunter Habets' reviews https://anothersievefistedfind.tumblr.com/ An image of the podcaster right before interviewing Ian & Guy https://i.imgur.com/mNRuco7.jpg Email me at [email protected] In lieu of a donation to the podcast, please make a donation to the DC Abortion Fund (https://dcabortionfund.org/), or your local abortion fund, or the National Network of Abortion Funds (https://abortionfunds.org/). Thank you.

Ian MacKaye with some working titles https://i.imgur.com/kDaV4Xi.jpg "Survival" by Prince Far I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNlMvVR93i0 My Korg DT-1 tuner https://i.imgur.com/hjEFR0k.jpg Guy Picciotto's "guitanjo" https://i.imgur.com/jemecjC.jpg A few addenda from Guy: "I’m pretty sure the working title 'Na Na Na' was the song Target. The 'na na na' would have been the opening note sequence that Ian and Joe played and I seem to recall when we were writing it / rehearsing there was some singing along of 'na na na na na na .. na na na na na' which made us all laugh." "The demo for INSTRUMENT and REND IT from Inner Ear that I mentioned was also significant in terms of writing the song INSTRUMENT. When we tracked it originally the guitars played thick chords all through the song with no dynamics – it was basically just a wall of guitars the whole way through. I think we even played it live that way for a while – where it was a more grungy noise thing. While doing the demo we struggled mixing it and couldn’t get it to work – it was just too monolithic and muddy. At some point I just started playing the mute buttons on the mixing desk to drop the guitars out during the verses so the bass part could be revealed and that was the key to making that song work and from there we totally re-arranged it to allow all that air back into the song that wasn’t there before. I feel like that was a significant stage for us in terms of changing the way we thought about our music and our mixes in terms of carving space.' "I need to confirm this with Ian but after listening I’m pretty sure the computer in COMBINATION LOCK is saying 'Wait a minute…. I forgot my combination'. Because of the janky algorithm it sounds like 'Wait a min-oot …. I forgot my combination'. That seems to match my memory of it but if Ian has a different take I’ll let you know." Email the podcast: [email protected] In lieu of a donation to the podcast, please make a donation to the DC Abortion Fund (https://dcabortionfund.org/), or your local abortion fund, or the National Network of Abortion Funds (https://abortionfunds.org/). Thank you.

"Walken's Syndrome" by Fugazi https://fugazi.bandcamp.com/track/walkens-syndrome Annie Hall: Christopher Walken scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp3NWzLzaek In On the Kill Taker (33 1/3 series) by Joe Gross https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/fugazis-in-on-the-kill-taker-9781501321399/ "The Call of the Void" by Ayesha Habib https://nuvomagazine.com/magazine/autumn-2021/the-call-of-the-void "Walken's Syndrome" cover by Tsunami Bomb https://ripcordrecords.bandcamp.com/track/walkens-syndrome Email the podcast: [email protected] In lieu of a donation to the podcast, please make a donation to the DC Abortion Fund (https://dcabortionfund.org/), or your local abortion fund, or the National Network of Abortion Funds (https://abortionfunds.org/). Thank you.

"Waiting Room" by Fugazi https://fugazi.bandcamp.com/track/waiting-room "Waiting Room (Demo)" by Fugazi https://fugazi.bandcamp.com/track/waiting-room-demo 1991 interview with Ian MacKaye (And When There's Darkness) https://mezzanottereport.com/2021/03/11/the-word-is-ian-mackaye-fugazi/ Guy Picciotto on Songwriting Malpractice https://podcasts.apple.com/ml/podcast/ep-65-guy-picciotto-rites-of-spring-fugazi/id1514529140?i=1000539308910 One Week One Band interview with Ian MacKaye https://oneweekoneband.tumblr.com/post/11733504291/ian-mackaye-interview Mark Prindle interview with Ian MacKaye http://www.markprindle.com/mackaye-i.htm "Who Let the Song Out?" by Dave McKenna https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/261357/who-let-the-song-out/ Guy Picciotto on End On End https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fugazi-s-t-guy-picciotto-and-ted-nicely/id1500702253?i=1000523869572 Night Gallery S2E18 "The Waiting Room" https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x82qrpw "Waiting Room" cover by Jazz Band Rejects https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIZD9WFpWZo "Let It Out" by Girl Talk (Fugazi sample at 5:25) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtsxfquYHf0 "Independent Room" mashup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvhTjiOHP0g Chris Richards on Twitter https://twitter.com/chris__richards Email the podcast: [email protected] In lieu of a donation to the podcast, please make a donation to the DC Abortion Fund (https://dcabortionfund.org/), or your local abortion fund, or the National Network of Abortion Funds (https://abortionfunds.org/). Thank you.

"Version" by Fugazi https://fugazi.bandcamp.com/track/version Tape Op interview https://tapeop.com/tutorials/12/fugazi/ Diskant interview http://www.diskant.net/features/fugazi-guy-picciotto/ Pitchfork interview https://pitchfork.com/features/interview/5840-fugazi/ Joe DeGeorge's Bandcamp https://joedegeorge.bandcamp.com/ Union of Musicians and Allied Workers: A group Joe helped found aiming to build collective power of musicians and other workers https://www.unionofmusicians.org/ Email the podcast: [email protected] In lieu of a donation to the podcast, please make a donation to the DC Abortion Fund (https://dcabortionfund.org/), or your local abortion fund, or the National Network of Abortion Funds (https://abortionfunds.org/). Thank you.

[Untitled] by Fugazi https://fugazi.bandcamp.com/track/intro Amy's handwritten notes for The Argument session https://i.imgur.com/jnTu2Zp.jpg Opening scene from The Shining https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjLip2FZLuA Garland of Hours self-titled album (Amy with Jerry and Brendan) https://garlandofhours.bandcamp.com/album/garland-of-hours All Scars (Amy with Jerry Busher and Chuck Bettis) https://allscars.bandcamp.com/album/lunar-magus Sam Green's brilliant documentary The Weather Underground featuring a soundtrack from Brendan, Amy and Dave Cerf (Threnody Ensemble) https://watchdocumentaries.com/the-weather-underground/ Email the podcast: [email protected] In lieu of a donation to the podcast, please make a donation to the DC Abortion Fund (https://dcabortionfund.org/), or your local abortion fund, or the National Network of Abortion Funds (https://abortionfunds.org/). Thank you.

"Two Beats Off" by Fugazi https://fugazi.bandcamp.com/track/two-beats-off Benjy's Smiths/Morrissey tribute band https://www.facebook.com/LouderThanMoz The Frequence https://www.facebook.com/thefrequence Benjy's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/benjyrickard/ Stephen's email [email protected] Email the podcast: [email protected] In lieu of a donation to the podcast, please make a donation to the DC Abortion Fund (https://dcabortionfund.org/), or your local abortion fund, or the National Network of Abortion Funds (https://abortionfunds.org/). Thank you.

"Turnover" by Fugazi https://fugazi.bandcamp.com/track/turnover Chapel Hill, NC USA 5/1/1989: only known recording of "N.S.A." https://www.dischord.com/fugazi_live_series/chapel-hill-nc-usa-50189 Thom Gibbs interview w/Guy https://oneweekoneband.tumblr.com/post/11623935976/guy-picciotto-interview Gregg Forman interview w/Guy https://www.psychicgloss.com/articles/6028 Fugazi live in front of the White House, 1/12/1991 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_5OZOwAhas Brass tuning sequence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2eqBIGR4eY Fugazi at Fort Reno 2000; end of "Turnover" and lightning bolt at 27:40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXX_CzyQZOE Jason's Twitter https://twitter.com/jasonbegay Native News https://nativenews.jour.umt.edu/projects/2021-home/ Email the podcast: [email protected] In lieu of a donation to the podcast, please make a donation to the DC Abortion Fund (https://dcabortionfund.org/), or your local abortion fund, or the National Network of Abortion Funds (https://abortionfunds.org/). Thank you.

"Turn Off Your Guns" by Fugazi https://fugazi.bandcamp.com/track/turn-off-your-guns-demo Fugazi show that Chris' band opened https://www.dischord.com/fugazi_live_series/leeds-england-42999 Blindboy Podcast episode on person-centered counseling https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/on-becoming-a-person/id1300577518?i=1000514171923 Samaritans, free confidential phone line for those in UK who need someone to listen https://www.samaritans.org/ "Suicide Is Painful" by Onsind, recommended by Chris https://open.spotify.com/track/0vVk6L2wBD9WUKL9c94G3C It Gets Better https://itgetsbetter.org/ Leeds Water Taxis https://www.leedsdock.com/whos-here/watertaxis/ Email the podcast: [email protected] In lieu of a donation to the podcast, please make a donation to the DC Abortion Fund (https://dcabortionfund.org/), or your local abortion fund, or the National Network of Abortion Funds (https://abortionfunds.org/). Thank you.

"The Word" by Fugazi (First Demo) https://fugazi.bandcamp.com/track/the-word-demo "The Word" by Fugazi (Margin Walker sessions) https://dischord.bandcamp.com/track/the-word Last performance of "The Word"? Paris, 11-22-88 https://youtu.be/PZY_e16_XN4?t=3382 Sesame Street: "What's the Name of That Song?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TjX5r37V0Q Pierce-Arrow https://soundcloud.com/piercearrow Email the podcast: [email protected] In lieu of a donation to the podcast, please make a donation to the DC Abortion Fund (https://dcabortionfund.org/), or your local abortion fund, or the National Network of Abortion Funds (https://abortionfunds.org/). Thank you.