Ep. 43 - Pascal Hügli | The Limits of Control and the Case for Bitcoin

In this episode of the Store of Bitcoin podcast, Johan Bergman and Alessandro Ottaviani engage with Pascal Hügli, a prominent figure in Bitcoin and financial philosophy. The conversation delves into the economic problems posed by fiat systems, the philosophical implications of money, and the potential societal impact of Bitcoin. Pascal critiques the institutionalization of debt and discusses the importance of separating money from state control. The discussion also covers market dynamics, Bitcoin's future in traditional finance, and the complexities of valuing Bitcoin in a volatile market. Throughout the conversation, Pascal emphasizes the need for a long-term perspective on Bitcoin investment and the transformative potential of Bitcoin in reshaping financial systems.This episode is sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BitVault⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, the new open-source & self-custody wallet utilizing time-delays and multisignature to offset physical attacks and hacks. Follow us on:Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://storeofbitcoin.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X.com: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/StoreofBitcoin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube chanel:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@StoreofBitcoin00⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alessandro Ottaviani X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/AlexOttaBTC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Francesco Madonna X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/CiccioMadonna⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Johan Bergman X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/JohanMBergman⁠⁠⁠

The conversation from the Lugano PlanB conference with Joe Bryan, author of the famous video What's The Problem?, explores the critical need for individuals to separate their finances from state control, emphasizing the role of Bitcoin as a safeguard against currency devaluation and inflation. It highlights the urgency for widespread adoption of Bitcoin to protect personal wealth and savings from government interference and monetary policy failures.This episode is sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BitVault⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, the new open-source & self-custody wallet utilizing time-delays and multisignature to offset physical attacks and hacks. Follow us on:Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://storeofbitcoin.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X.com: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/StoreofBitcoin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube chanel:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@StoreofBitcoin00⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alessandro Ottaviani X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/AlexOttaBTC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Francesco Madonna X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/CiccioMadonna⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Johan Bergman X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/JohanMBergman⁠⁠⁠

In this podcast episode with Joel Lenz, Head of communication and public face of Relai, the discussion revolves around Relay, a Bitcoin-only app, its journey towards regulatory compliance in Europe, and the challenges faced in the process. The conversation highlights user growth trends, particularly in the business sector, and the importance of education in promoting Bitcoin adoption. The speakers also delve into the demographics of Bitcoin users, marketing strategies, and the distinction between Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. The episode concludes with insights on the future of Bitcoin and the role of self-custody solutions.This episode is sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BitVault⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, the new open-source & self-custody wallet utilizing time-delays and multisignature to offset physical attacks and hacks. Follow us on:Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://storeofbitcoin.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X.com: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/StoreofBitcoin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube chanel:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@StoreofBitcoin00⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alessandro Ottaviani X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/AlexOttaBTC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Francesco Madonna X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/CiccioMadonna⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Johan Bergman X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/JohanMBergman⁠⁠⁠

In this episode, Roberto Rios, known as the Peruvian Bull, discusses the intricate relationship between Bitcoin, gold, and global economic policies. He delves into the recent market reactions to economic events, particularly focusing on Japan's monetary policy and its implications for global liquidity. Rios emphasizes the importance of understanding Bitcoin's utility value as a monetary medium and its potential to outperform gold in the long run. The conversation also touches on the skepticism surrounding Bitcoin and the challenges it faces in gaining wider acceptance as a legitimate asset class.This episode is sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BitVault⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, the new open-source & self-custody wallet utilizing time-delays and multisignature to offset physical attacks and hacks. Follow us on:Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://storeofbitcoin.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X.com: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/StoreofBitcoin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube chanel:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@StoreofBitcoin00⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alessandro Ottaviani X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/AlexOttaBTC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Francesco Madonna X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/CiccioMadonna⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Johan Bergman X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/JohanMBergman⁠⁠⁠

In this conversation, Corey Clipstein, founder and CEO of Swan Bitcoin, discusses the evolution of the Bitcoin market from 2017 to 2023, emphasizing the impact of ETFs and the changing landscape of Bitcoin adoption. He shares insights on the role of treasury companies, the significance of Bitcoin as a store of value, and the innovative strategies employed by Swan Bitcoin to enhance customer experience and drive growth. The discussion also touches on the importance of Bitcoin conferences and the community's shift towards recognizing Bitcoin's unique value proposition compared to other cryptocurrencies.This episode is sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BitVault⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, the new open-source & self-custody wallet utilizing time-delays and multisignature to offset physical attacks and hacks. Follow us on:Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://storeofbitcoin.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X.com: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/StoreofBitcoin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube chanel:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@StoreofBitcoin00⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alessandro Ottaviani X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/AlexOttaBTC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Francesco Madonna X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/CiccioMadonna⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Johan Bergman X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/JohanMBergman⁠⁠⁠

This conversation explores the innovative aspects of ARK, a protocol designed to enhance Bitcoin's capabilities. Tiero, the guest, shares insights into the evolution of Bitcoin, the significance of VTXO for programmability, and ARK's competitive advantages. The discussion delves into transaction management through the virtual mempool, security features, liquidity management, and the potential for financial services built on ARK. The conversation concludes with thoughts on market adoption and future opportunities for developers.This episode is sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BitVault⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, the new open-source & self-custody wallet utilizing time-delays and multisignature to offset physical attacks and hacks. Follow us on:Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://storeofbitcoin.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X.com: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/StoreofBitcoin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube chanel:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@StoreofBitcoin00⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alessandro Ottaviani X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/AlexOttaBTC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Francesco Madonna X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/CiccioMadonna⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Johan Bergman X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/JohanMBergman⁠⁠⁠

In this conversation, the hosts and Rational Root, well known On-Chain Analyst, explore the intricacies of Bitcoin's market cycles, on-chain data analysis, and the impact of institutional demand and ETFs on retail participation. They discuss key metrics for understanding market trends, the behavior of HODLers, and the psychological aspects of market hype. The conversation also delves into the comparative analysis of Bitcoin and gold, and concludes with future price predictions and the overall outlook for Bitcoin in the coming months.This episode is sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BitVault⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, the new open-source & self-custody wallet utilizing time-delays and multisignature to offset physical attacks and hacks. Follow us on:Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://storeofbitcoin.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X.com: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/StoreofBitcoin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube chanel:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@StoreofBitcoin00⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alessandro Ottaviani X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/AlexOttaBTC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Francesco Madonna X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/CiccioMadonna⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Johan Bergman X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/JohanMBergman⁠⁠⁠

In this episode Vijay Boyapati discusses the evolution of Bitcoin, emphasizing its role as a store of value before becoming a medium of exchange. He reflects on the current state of Bitcoin adoption, the impact of regulatory frameworks, and the importance of organic demand from consumers. The conversation also touches on the psychological barriers to retail adoption, the financialization of Bitcoin through corporate treasury strategies, and the potential future price movements of Bitcoin. Boyapati advocates for patience in the adoption process and cautions against conspiracy theories surrounding Bitcoin's price stagnation, attributing it instead to the natural transfer of supply from long-term holders to new investors.This episode is sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BitVault⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, your fortress against physical attacks and hacks. Follow us on:Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://storeofbitcoin.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X.com: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/StoreofBitcoin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube chanel:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@StoreofBitcoin00⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alessandro Ottaviani X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/AlexOttaBTC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Francesco Madonna X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/CiccioMadonna⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Johan Bergman X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/JohanMBergman⁠⁠⁠

In this episode, Nick Batia discusses the evolution of monetary systems, the significance of Bitcoin as a non-counterparty money, and the transition to a new monetary epoch. He explores the institutional perspective on money, the evolution of reserve assets, and the interplay between fixed income and Bitcoin. The conversation also delves into the role of treasuries in the financial system and the potential future of Bitcoin in a global context, especially in light of economic instability.This episode is sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BitVault⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, your fortress against physical attacks and hacks. Follow us on:Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://storeofbitcoin.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X.com: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/StoreofBitcoin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube chanel:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@StoreofBitcoin00⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alessandro Ottaviani X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/AlexOttaBTC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Francesco Madonna X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/CiccioMadonna⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Johan Bergman X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/JohanMBergman⁠⁠⁠

In this conversation, Seb Bunney discusses the transformative potential of Bitcoin, contrasting it with traditional financial systems. He introduces the concepts of the three P's (prestige, power, possessions) and the three C's (connections, contributions, challenges), emphasizing the importance of shifting focus from external validation to internal fulfillment. The discussion explores the role of education in understanding Bitcoin, the psychological impacts of money, and the necessity of self-custody. Bagne argues that Bitcoin can realign societal incentives, fostering a community of givers rather than takers, and ultimately leading to a more decentralized and resilient future.This episode is sponsored by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BitVault⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, your fortress against physical attacks and hacks. Follow us on:Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://storeofbitcoin.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X.com: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/StoreofBitcoin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube chanel:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@StoreofBitcoin00⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alessandro Ottaviani X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/AlexOttaBTC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Francesco Madonna X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/CiccioMadonna⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Johan Bergman X profile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/JohanMBergman⁠⁠