Breaking the Rock Bottom Myth with Andrea Seydel

Let’s be honest—perimenopause isn’t exactly a hot topic at dinner, and alcohol’s role in our lives (and cultures) is often more complicated than we realize. In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia is diving into both with the help of Sukhi Dhillon is a dental educator, mom of two, and the voice behind OneSikhMom on social media, where she uses humor, heart, and reels to talk about everything from Sikhi and parenting to cycle-breaking, menopause, and yes—booze. She is a go-to community voice for honest conversations and cultural connection.So what’s really going on when it comes to menopause in the South Asian community? Why do so many women feel blindsided by symptoms—and alone in dealing with them? Sukhi helps us unpack questions around health literacy, how culture shapes what’s considered “private,” and why it’s so hard to get support. We also dig into alcohol—how it’s celebrated and expected in many South Asian spaces, but stigmatized differently for women. And of course, we get into that tricky question: Why do we feel like fun has to come with a drink in hand?From early onset menopause in South Asian women to the double standards around alcohol use, Sukhi sheds light on topics most people are too shy—or too uncomfortable—to bring up. She talks about the importance of culturally specific care, the role of peer pressure in adult drinking (yes, it’s still a thing), and the value of being “that person” who starts the hard conversations. If you’re curious about cycle-breaking, mental health, or talking to your kids about alcohol in a more honest way than just yelling “don’t do it!”—this is the episode for you.Sukhi also shares her own journey—how years of confusing symptoms led her to research perimenopause herself, why she started speaking out online, and the powerful messages she receives from women every day who finally feel seen.This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our Substack for extra tips, tricks, and resources—and maybe pass this episode along to a friend who needs to hear it.Episode Highlights00:01 Meet Sukhi: mom, educator, community organizer, content creator01:50 Why she started speaking up about taboo topics in the South Asian community03:30 The perimenopause denial phase—what she wishes she’d known sooner04:30 Sharing symptoms publicly and the surprising response she got06:00 Her DMs are full of important conversations (and ideas for future content)07:00 Organizing mobile health clinics at the Gurdwara08:30 Why reproductive health is still so hush-hush in our families09:30 The impact of being told to “push through it” like our moms did10:30 How menopause symptoms differ for South Asian women11:00 The science behind early menopause—and why doctors often miss it12:00 Traditional remedies, soy, and navigating food myths14:00 Culture vs. religion when it comes to women's health15:30 Alcohol as status, celebration—and coping mechanism16:30 Aunties drinking publicly and the shift in expectations18:00 The peer pressure to drink, even as adults20:00 “You’re not drinking? What’s wrong with you?”21:00 Stigma around sobriety and how it impacts recovery22:00 The very real struggles South Asian women face in getting help23:00 Resources that are culturally appropriate and trauma-informed25:00 Intergenerational trauma, parenting styles, and how it all connects27:00 How to actually talk to your kids about alcohol (without freaking out)29:00 Why our parents didn’t prioritize self-care—and how we can31:00 Teaching kids that emotions are not a weakness32:00 The glamorization of drinking in pop culture and Punjabi music34:00 Where to go for reliable South Asian health info36:00 What Sukhi’s working on next—and how to follow alongGet in touch with SukhiYouTubeInstagramTikTokFacebookLinks• Sisters In Sobriety Substack – find more tips, tricks, resources, and community• Sisters In Sobriety Email• Sisters In Sobriety Instagram• Kathleen’s Website – Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast• Kathleen’s InstagramOur Sponsors:* Check out TruDiagnostic and use my code SIS2025 for a great deal: https://www.trudiagnostic.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/sisters-in-sobriety/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, hosts Kathleen and Sonia sit down with Dr. Erica Matluck, a holistic doctor, mother, and the creator of Seven Senses, a holistic framework for healing and transformation. Trained as a naturopathic doctor, family nurse practitioner, Reiki Master, and multidisciplinary yoga instructor, Dr. Matluck brings over two decades of experience in both conventional and alternative medicine to her work. She integrates Eastern philosophy and ancient wisdom into her approach to wellbeing, focusing on the physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual aspects of health. Her work has been featured in Harper’s Bazaar, MindBodyGreen, Well+Good, Vogue, and Women’s Health.This episode dives into the mind-body connection, exploring how chakras can be a framework for healing. Dr. Matluck shares her personal journey from conventional medicine to holistic healing and explains why compartmentalization in healthcare limits our ability to thrive. How does alcohol fit into the equation? The discussion covers emotional bypassing, the root cause of disease, and how to decompartmentalize health for a more integrative approach.Listeners will learn about the chakras as bridges between the physical and metaphysical realms, the role of emotional bypassing in addiction and numbing behaviors, how to recognize energetic imbalances in the body and start self-healing practices, why conventional medicine focuses on survival but true healing goes beyond functionality, and how to reconnect with yourself after quitting alcohol.Dr. Matluck opens up about how losing her mother to cancer at a young age sparked her curiosity about alternative healing. She shares how witnessing both conventional and holistic treatments shaped her philosophy of care. From her early introduction to Reiki to working in mainstream medical institutions, she reveals how her approach evolved—ultimately leading her back to the wisdom she first discovered decades ago.This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our Substack for extra tips, tricks, and resources.Highlights:[00:00:00] Welcome to Sisters in Sobriety – introducing Dr. Erica Matluck [00:01:08] Erica’s background in naturopathy, nursing, Reiki, and yoga [00:01:39] Why she transitioned from conventional medicine to holistic healing [00:02:13] How losing her mother to cancer shaped her approach to healing [00:04:37] Discovering Reiki and energy work as a teenager [00:06:14] What are chakras? Erica’s unique perspective on this ancient framework [00:08:15] The chakras as bridges between the conscious and unconscious mind [00:10:41] Why compartmentalized healthcare leaves us feeling disconnected [00:14:50] How to identify energetic imbalances and blocked chakras [00:18:09] The power of breathwork in balancing your energy [00:20:00] Why modern medicine separates survival from true wellbeing [00:26:39] Alcohol and emotional bypassing: how numbing prevents true healing [00:28:49] The importance of intention in alcohol consumption [00:30:15] What happens when we remove numbing agents? Preparing for discomfort [00:32:16] Meditation and movement: tools for processing emotions without alcohol [00:34:34] Post-alcohol healing: daily strategies to reconnect with yourself [00:36:07] Common misconceptions about holistic medicine and integrative health [00:40:00] How defining “holistic” for yourself helps you find the right practitioner [00:41:15] Upcoming projects: Erica’s Substack, retreats, and courses on root cause healing [00:42:07] Closing thoughts and where to find Erica onlineLinks & Resources:How to Connect with Erica: Dr. Erica Matluck’s Substack - https://drericamatluck.substack.com/ Seven Senses Retreat: Gnosis Mallorca - https://www.experiencesevensenses.com/gnosis-mallorca Sisters In Sobriety Substack - find more tips, tricks, resources, and community Sisters In Sobriety Email Sisters In Sobriety Instagram Kathleen’s Website - Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast Kathleen’s InstagramOur Sponsors:* Check out TruDiagnostic and use my code SIS2025 for a great deal: https://www.trudiagnostic.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/sisters-in-sobriety/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Ever feel like you need to hit rock bottom before making a change? Think again! This week on Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia is joined by Andrea Seydel, a happiness and resilience expert who’s here to challenge the outdated recovery narrative. Andrea is the author of Recovery Without Rock Bottom and the creator of Ready for Recovery Magazine, a fresh take on healing that’s all about building yourself up—not tearing yourself down. With a background in happiness studies and positive psychology, she’s got the science-backed tools to help you rethink recovery and reclaim your life.So, what’s on the table today?Do you really need to hit rock bottom, or is that just a myth?What are some early signs that your relationship with alcohol (or other habits) might need a reset?Why do so many recovery programs focus on what you need to quit instead of what you need to build?How can we rewire our brains to make lasting, positive changes?What’s the best way to support someone struggling with addiction without losing yourself in the process?Takeaways from this episode:Recovery isn’t just about stopping something—it’s about rediscovering yourself.You don’t have to wait until things fall apart to make a change.Boundaries aren’t about controlling others—they’re about protecting your peace.Your brain is wired for change, and small shifts can make a huge difference.Community and support matter more than willpower alone.Andrea also shares her personal story—how loving someone with addiction led her to a breaking point, and how she turned that pain into a mission to help others. Whether you’re sober, sober-curious, or just looking for a little extra motivation, this episode is packed with wisdom, humor, and practical advice.This is Sisters in Sobriety—the community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Find extra tips, resources, and support on our Substack!Episode Highlights:[00:01:00] Meet Andrea Seydel and her take on recovery[00:02:09] When loving someone with addiction starts to break you[00:05:00] The myth of rock bottom (and why it’s holding people back)[00:08:10] “In-betweeners” who don’t fit the traditional recovery mold[00:12:48] Red flags: When to check in with yourself (or someone else)[00:14:42] Why values matter more than willpower[00:16:42] The science of addiction: Rewiring your brain for good[00:19:00] Tiny habits that make a huge impact[00:25:47] Playing the tape forward: Using fear vs. motivation[00:27:05] Sobriety changes everything—including what you value most[00:29:00] Setting boundaries vs. making “rules to live by”[00:35:34] Why support groups work (even if you’re not into group stuff)[00:38:40] Preventing relapse before it starts[00:41:19] Forgiveness: What it really means and who it’s for[00:44:41] Andrea’s new project, Ready for Recovery Magazine[00:46:00] Final thoughts: Recovery isn’t about being broken—it’s about taking your power backLinks & Resources:Connect with Andrea:Andrea's WebsiteReady for RecoverySaving You Is Killing MeSisters in Sobriety Substack – More tips, tricks, and supportSisters in Sobriety EmailSisters in Sobriety InstagramKathleen’s Website (Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast)Kathleen’s InstagramOur Sponsors:* Check out TruDiagnostic and use my code SIS2025 for a great deal: https://www.trudiagnostic.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/sisters-in-sobriety/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Ever felt like drinking just wasn’t working for you anymore, even if nothing looked "wrong" from the outside? That’s exactly where Hadley Sorenson found herself. This week on Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia and Kathleen sit down with Hadley—writer, speaker, and sobriety advocate—who is on a mission to help women change their relationship with alcohol without shame, stigma, or outdated labels.Hadley gets real about her journey—how she ignored red flags for years, the pressure to keep drinking because “everyone else was,” and why she finally decided to call it quits. The conversation dives into all the big questions: How do you know when it’s time to stop? What if your drinking looks normal to everyone else? How do you navigate sobriety when your partner still drinks? And how do you shake off the idea that quitting means missing out?If you’ve ever questioned your drinking but felt like you weren’t “bad enough” to quit, this episode is for you. Hadley breaks down why “rock bottom” is a myth, shares how alcohol was messing with her mental health way more than she realized, and gives honest insight into what sobriety has actually done for her life, relationships, and running game. Spoiler alert: It’s all way better than she expected.She also talks about why she doesn’t use the label “alcoholic,” how marketing and pop culture keep women stuck in the drinking cycle, and how quitting drinking led her to write a novel (yep, it’s coming soon!).This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our Substack for extra tips, tricks, and resources.Episode Highlights• [00:01:00] Meet Hadley—writer, speaker, and a sobriety advocate with a fresh take.• [00:02:10] The slow realization that alcohol wasn’t adding anything good to her life.• [00:04:12] Ignoring red flags: blackouts, anxiety, and shame—but still drinking anyway.• [00:08:27] The myth of rock bottom—why you don’t have to wait until things fall apart.• [00:10:15] “If your pan caught fire, you wouldn’t wait for the whole house to burn down.”• [00:12:19] How alcohol becomes part of our identity (and why that’s so hard to untangle).• [00:16:03] Why Hadley doesn’t call herself an alcoholic—and why that’s totally okay.• [00:19:27] The role of alcohol marketing and why it's basically the new "big tobacco."• [00:22:16] How to stop seeing quitting as deprivation and start seeing it as freedom.• [00:27:07] Hadley’s thoughts on the “gray area” of drinking and why more voices matter.• [00:30:00] Why drinking is marketed differently to men and women—and why it matters.• [00:32:07] What happens when you quit, but your partner still drinks? (Hint: boundaries!)• [00:36:26] The surprising ways sobriety actually made Hadley’s marriage stronger.• [00:43:00] All the unexpected physical benefits of quitting alcohol.• [00:46:52] “Wait… was alcohol making my health issues worse all along?”• [00:50:06] The power of movement—why running and walking helped Hadley so much.• [00:54:08] Hadley’s next big project: a novel exploring different relationships with alcohol.LinksGet in touch with Hadley:• Hadley’s Instagram• Hadley’s Website• Sisters In Sobriety Substack – find more tips, tricks, resources, and community.• Sisters In Sobriety Email• Sisters In Sobriety Instagram• Kathleen’s Website – Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast.• Kathleen’s InstagramOur Sponsors:* Check out TruDiagnostic and use my code SIS2025 for a great deal: https://www.trudiagnostic.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/sisters-in-sobriety/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

On this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia and Kathleen sit down with Alle C. Hall, an author, speaker, and writing instructor with over 35 years in recovery from bulimia, compulsive overeating, alcoholism, and sexual anorexia. Her debut novel, As Far as You Can Go Before You Have to Come Back, has earned multiple awards and is even included in the staff libraries of major treatment centers. But beyond the accolades, Alle’s story is one of resilience, creativity, and finding joy after trauma.Alle opens up about her journey through addiction, the ways trauma shaped her relationship with food, alcohol, and intimacy, and how creativity became a key part of her healing. She shares how a "geographic cure" led her to Tokyo, where she unexpectedly found a recovery community, and how she later navigated motherhood, deep depression, and even a relapse after 27 years of sobriety. Through it all, she’s built a life rooted in hope, healing, and self-expression.This conversation covers so much—why addiction often shifts between different compulsive behaviors, the importance of spirituality in recovery (even if you don’t know what that looks like for you yet), and how to navigate the shame that so often lingers after trauma. Alle also gets real about what it means to heal from sexual anorexia, how she rebuilt trust and intimacy, and why she’s passionate about helping others use writing as a tool for self-discovery.From early struggles with food and body image to finding her voice through writing, Alle’s story is full of lessons on resilience and self-compassion. If you’ve ever wondered whether it’s possible to truly heal from trauma, this episode is proof that recovery is not just about survival—it’s about rediscovering joy, creativity, and a life that feels fully your own.Some of the highlights from this episode:How childhood trauma shaped her addictions and recovery journeyThe unexpected way she found a recovery community in TokyoWhy addiction is often just a symptom of deeper issuesHow Tai Chi, therapy, and DBT became crucial tools for healingThe unique challenges of food addiction and learning moderationWhat sexual anorexia is and how she worked through itThe role of spirituality in recovery—even when it feels complicatedHow creativity and storytelling can be powerful tools for healingThis is a deep, inspiring, and sometimes funny conversation that reminds us that healing isn’t linear—but it is possible.Connect with Alle C. Hall:InstagramWebsiteLinks:Sisters in Sobriety Substack – where we share more tips, resources, and communitySisters in Sobriety EmailSisters in Sobriety InstagramKathleen’s Website (Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast.)Kathleen’s InstagramOur Sponsors:* Check out TruDiagnostic and use my code SIS2025 for a great deal: https://www.trudiagnostic.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/sisters-in-sobriety/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Welcome back to Sisters in Sobriety! Today, Sonia and Kathleen are here to help you navigate the journey of changing your relationship with alcohol, and we’ve got an incredible guest to guide us. Whitney Combs is a nationally board-certified health and wellness coach specializing in addiction and recovery. She began her career as a Physician Assistant before shifting her focus to holistic recovery coaching after getting sober in 2017. Whitney has since helped countless women build fulfilling lives that don’t require escape. With her extensive training and experience—both personal and professional—she brings a wealth of knowledge to today’s conversation.In this episode, we explore what it truly takes to create lasting change. How do you transition from feeling stuck in a cycle of drinking to living a life that feels nourishing and whole? What role does coaching play in recovery, and how is it different from therapy? How can you begin to trust yourself again after years of self-doubt? Whitney shares insights from her work with women in recovery, breaking down the tools that empower real transformation.Listeners will walk away with a deeper understanding of self-accountability, personal agency in recovery, and how to cultivate habits that support sobriety. Whitney shares practical strategies for identifying and dismantling triggers, building sustainable routines, and using self-reflection as a tool for growth. We also discuss the importance of mindset shifts—moving from deprivation to abundance—and how to stay committed to long-term change.Whitney also shares her own personal story—how she made the difficult decision to quit drinking, the challenges she faced in early sobriety, and how her perspective on life has evolved since then. She opens up about what worked, what didn’t, and how she continues to stay grounded in her recovery today.This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our Substack for extra tips, tricks, and resources.Time-Stamped Highlights[00:03] Kicking off the episode and introducing today’s guest, Whitney Combs[05:12] How Whitney went from Physician Assistant to recovery coach[08:45] Why she stepped away from clinical medicine to take a holistic approach[12:30] Coaching vs. therapy—what’s the real difference in addiction recovery?[15:50] Why self-accountability is a game-changer in sobriety[18:20] Rebuilding self-trust after years of second-guessing yourself[21:45] Breaking free from shame and guilt—because we’ve all been there[25:10] The toughest struggles women face in early sobriety[28:05] How to create routines that support your long-term recovery[32:15] Why alcohol-free living is the ultimate act of self-care[35:40] The power of finding your community in sobriety[38:55] How Whitney helps women design lives they truly love[42:10] Spotting and managing triggers before they derail your progress[45:30] Using self-reflection to fuel growth and healing[48:05] Facing the fear of quitting drinking and embracing a new identity[51:20] Whitney’s personal experiences with socializing sober[54:40] From scarcity to abundance—rethinking what sobriety really means[57:15] How to handle setbacks with kindness (instead of self-criticism)[01:00:30] What Whitney wishes everyone understood about addiction recovery[01:03:50] Whitney’s final words of wisdom for those on the journeyLinksSisters In Sobriety Substack - find more tips, tricks, resources, and communitySisters In Sobriety EmailSisters In Sobriety InstagramKathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcastKathleen’s InstagramGet in Touch WIth Whitney Website: www.whitneycombs.com Instagram: @whitney.combsOur Sponsors:* Check out TruDiagnostic and use my code SIS2025 for a great deal: https://www.trudiagnostic.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/sisters-in-sobriety/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia sits down with Samantha Lander, a functional diagnostic nutritionist and personal trainer who turned her life around after struggling with addiction. Now, she helps people figure out what’s really going on with their health using lab testing, nutrition, and lifestyle tweaks.Ever wonder why quitting drinking doesn’t always make you feel amazing overnight? Why do so many people in recovery crave sugar? And what’s the deal with gut health and hormones? Samantha breaks it all down, sharing insights on how alcohol messes with digestion, metabolism, and overall wellness. She also gives practical tips on balancing blood sugar, avoiding common nutrition mistakes, and getting your energy back.Samantha also opens up about her own story—how she got into addiction, the legal trouble that followed, and what finally helped her get sober. She shares what worked (and what didn’t) in her recovery and how she found her way to helping others through functional medicine.This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our Substack for extra tips, tricks, and resources.Episode Highlights:[00:01:00] Meet Samantha Lander and her background in functional health[00:03:00] Samantha shares her early experiences with addiction and sobriety[00:07:00] The moment she realized she needed a change[00:12:00] Facing legal trouble and what that experience was like[00:17:00] What rehab was really like for her[00:21:00] How she got into functional medicine and nutrition[00:26:00] Why so many people in recovery struggle with sugar cravings[00:30:00] How alcohol affects gut health and hormone balance[00:35:00] The best ways to support your liver and metabolism after quitting[00:40:00] Why some people still feel sluggish even after quitting alcohol[00:44:00] Simple nutrition changes that make a big impact in recovery[00:48:00] How Samantha helps people figure out their unique health needs[00:52:00] Where to find Samantha and how to work with herLinksWork with Samantha: https://linktr.ee/seefitlivingSisters In Sobriety Substack - find more tips, tricks, resources, and communitySisters In Sobriety EmailSisters In Sobriety InstagramKathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcastKathleen’s InstagramOur Sponsors:* Check out TruDiagnostic and use my code SIS2025 for a great deal: https://www.trudiagnostic.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/sisters-in-sobriety/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

It's our first Bravo Sobriety Hot Take! In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, we dive into the sober journey of Summer House's Carl Radke. From his initial decision to quit drinking to his Cali sober lifestyle, we're breaking down what his sobriety looks like today and the challenges of navigating it in the Bravo universe.Carl has been open about his struggles with alcohol, but when Lindsay revealed he had been smoking weed and using psychedelics, many fans were surprised. What does Cali sober really mean? Is it sustainable? How does it impact relationships, especially when one partner drinks? We also explore how filming a reality show in a drinking-heavy environment can affect sobriety.We talk about the personal and emotional aspects of Carl’s sobriety. We discuss the impact of his brother's passing, how that tragedy influenced his decision to quit drinking, and the complexities of familial addiction. We’ll explore the common experience of comparing our drinking to others' and the realization that addiction manifests in different ways.Carl's journey has been filled with ups and downs, from his highly publicized breakup with Lindsay to his efforts to build a life that aligns with his sober values. How does he handle temptation? How does he navigate friendships and career moves while staying committed to his version of sobriety? His decision to open a sober-friendly sports bar is just one example of how he's reshaping the narrative around drinking culture.This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our Substack for extra tips, tricks, and resources.Time-Stamped Highlights:[00:01:00] Sonia introduces the Bravo Hot Topics in Sobriety series. [00:02:00] Carl Radke's sobriety journey—what we knew vs. what we just learned. [00:03:26] The role of reality TV in his decision to get sober. [00:04:28] The heartbreaking loss of Carl’s brother and its impact on his sobriety. [00:05:49] Comparing personal drinking habits to those struggling with addiction. [00:07:40] The anger and resentment Carl felt toward his brother’s addiction. [00:09:23] Carl’s reflection on his past drinking habits and relationship struggles. [00:10:14] The importance of a supportive environment in early sobriety. [00:11:52] What does Cali sober actually mean? How does it work for Carl? [00:13:20] The controversy around Carl taking psychedelics at a music festival. [00:15:00] The challenges of sobriety in relationships—how Lindsay played a role. [00:16:37] The emotional impact of having your sobriety questioned by a partner. [00:17:48] How Summer House’s environment affects Carl’s sobriety. [00:19:20] Does he struggle with temptation on the show? [00:19:46] Carl’s new sober ventures: nonalcoholic bar and Loverboy’s NA teas.[00:20:29] The importance of creating sober-friendly spaces in drinking culture. [00:21:00] The big question: Is Cali sober sustainable for Carl long-term? [00:21:24] Wrapping up—why Carl’s journey is an important conversation.LinksSisters In Sobriety Substack - find more tips, tricks, resources, and communitySisters In Sobriety EmailSisters In Sobriety InstagramKathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcastKathleen’s InstagramOur Sponsors:* Check out TruDiagnostic and use my code SIS2025 for a great deal: https://www.trudiagnostic.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/sisters-in-sobriety/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

How do you rediscover yourself in recovery? In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, hosts Sonia and Kathleen sit down with award-winning author and speaker Patti Clark. Patti shares her deeply personal story of growing up in an alcoholic home, struggling with addiction, and ultimately finding recovery—twice. As the author of This Way Up and Recovery Road Trip, she explores how creativity, self-reflection, and community play a vital role in healing. Sonia and Kathleen guide the conversation, helping listeners unpack key insights that can support their own journeys.What role does creativity play in addiction recovery? How does travel shape self-discovery and healing? What does emotional sobriety truly mean? Patti shares her experience of getting sober, relapsing after 13 years, and finding her way back to a fulfilling life. She also dives into the importance of community, the evolution of recovery beyond traditional 12-step programs, and how addiction can manifest in different ways beyond alcohol.Listeners will gain valuable insights on the power of emotional sobriety, the impact of community in recovery, and why personal growth is an ongoing process. Patti discusses the necessity of taking pauses, embracing self-compassion, and recognizing the various ways addiction can show up in our lives. Whether you’re newly sober or years into your journey, this episode offers inspiration and practical takeaways on finding meaning and connection beyond alcohol.This is Sisters in Sobriety, the support community that helps women change their relationship with alcohol. Check out our Substack for extra tips, tricks, and resources.Episode Highlights00:01 – Patti shares her upbringing in an alcoholic household and early substance use05:16 – The moment she realized she needed to leave Alaska to save herself06:21 – How her relationship with her husband played a role in her decision to get sober07:53 – Patti’s first introduction to Alcoholics Anonymous and the impact of her sister’s recovery09:46 – The pivotal moment when she was directly asked, “Are you an alcoholic?”12:17 – How travel shaped her worldview and also contributed to her relapse14:46 – Defining recovery: Is it abstinence, moderation, or something else?16:42 – The importance of emotional sobriety and personal growth beyond quitting drinking19:16 – The slow build-up to relapse after 13 years of sobriety20:56 – The role of connection in addiction and recovery22:27 – How Patti found her way back to sobriety and created a new community24:08 – Learning from relapse: Why she started researching women’s experiences with it26:58 – Writing Recovery Road Trip and weaving real stories into the book27:50 – Addiction beyond alcohol: Why Patti identifies as an addict rather than just an alcoholic30:06 – Recognizing the ‘whack-a-mole’ nature of addiction (shopping, screens, food, etc.)32:07 – The limitations of traditional 12-step programs and the need for more inclusive recovery spaces35:12 – How she’s working to build an open, all-addictions recovery group in Portugal38:42 – The impact of social media on connection and addiction40:33 – The importance of taking sacred pauses in recovery and daily life42:28 – How creativity plays a key role in Patti’s recovery practice45:33 – Navigating friendships when alcohol is no longer part of your social life50:16 – What Patti is currently working on, including her move to Portugal and ongoing writing projects53:43 – Final words of wisdom on reinvention and embracing sobriety as a lifelong journeyLinksSisters In Sobriety Substack – find more tips, tricks, resources, and communitySisters In Sobriety EmailSisters In Sobriety InstagramKathleen’s Website Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcastKathleen’s InstagramConnect with Patti ClarkWebsite: www.patticlark.orgSubstack: Patti Clark WriterInstagram: @patticlarkauthorOur Sponsors:* Check out TruDiagnostic and use my code SIS2025 for a great deal: https://www.trudiagnostic.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/sisters-in-sobriety/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

So, what happens when you quit drinking but your partner doesn’t? Is your relationship doomed? Will they start side-eyeing your mocktails? Or will love prevail? On today’s episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia and Kathleen are diving into the messy and complicated world of love in sobriety.To help us untangle it all, we’re joined by the incredible Kate Taylor! Kate is a writer who has worked for Disney and the United Nations (yes, she’s that cool), and she’s a big, bold voice in the sobriety space. After drinking a bottle of wine a night for 20 years, she’s been sober for over three years—and she shares her journey with humor and honesty on Instagram. She currently lives in Shropshire, UK, with her husband, two kids, and a massive rescue puppy (who is probably the best listener in the house).So… can your relationship survive sobriety?In this episode, we’re asking the big questions:💡 What happens when one person quits drinking but the other keeps going?💡 Can you really be in a happy relationship with someone who drinks when you don’t?💡 How do you handle resentment, jealousy, and judgement💡 And… is dating sober basically The Hunger Games? (Spoiler: kinda, yeah.)Kate gets real about what it was like to be the fun, party-loving drinker in her marriage—until she decided to stop. She shares the surprising ways her relationship changed (the good, the weird, and the "is that wine I smell?!"). Plus, we get into the emotional rollercoaster of intimacy in sobriety, setting boundaries without being a buzzkill, and what happens when your partner finally decides to take a break from drinking... but doesn’t do the emotional work.What You’ll Take Away (Besides an Urge to DM Kate ‘OMG SAME’)✨ How to set boundaries in your relationship without starting WWIII✨ Why quitting drinking makes you way more self-aware (for better or worse)✨ The truth about emotional vs. physical sobriety (yes, there’s a difference)✨ Why watching your drunk friends repeat themselves for the 5th time is painful✨ Tips for talking to your partner about sobriety without making it weirdOf course, we also get into Kate’s personal story—how she went from blackout nights to the moment that made her quit drinking, and how she’s navigating a marriage where sobriety wasn’t a shared decision.And finally, the million-dollar question: Will her husband stay sober after his one-year experiment, or is Kate in for a plot twist? She’s keeping it real, and we’re here for every juicy detail.This is Sisters in Sobriety—the podcast and community helping women change their relationship with alcohol, one hilarious and heartfelt conversation at a time. Check out our Substack for extra tips, tricks, and resources.Episode Highlights[00:00:00] Welcome to Sisters in Sobriety! Meet Kate Taylor and today’s topic—when one person in a relationship stops drinking.[00:03:00] Kate’s childhood: growing up around famous writers and endless bottles of booze.[00:06:22] Drinking, blackouts, and the morning-after anxiety spiral.[00:08:00] The moment Kate knew she had to quit—drunk Kate leaves sober Kate a message.[00:14:00] How drinking shaped Kate’s marriage (hint: lots of "do you remember what you said last night?" moments).[00:19:25] The dreaded reading the room moment the morning after an argument.[00:22:42] Kate quits drinking, but her husband doesn’t—at first, it’s fine... right?[00:24:49] One year into sobriety: "So, uh, why are you still drinking?"[00:26:13] Her husband decides to take a break from drinking—how did that change their marriage?[00:28:48] Why men (especially in the UK) struggle with socializing sober.[00:32:51] The big fear: what happens if he starts drinking again?[00:36:25] How to have the conversation about drinking without making your partner defensive.[00:38:54] Writing letters instead of talking—Kate’s genius communication hack.[00:42:49] Setting boundaries vs. giving ultimatums (and why it’s not the same thing).[00:44:12] The awkward reality of sober intimacy—yes, it’s weird at first.[00:49:14] The baggage we carry from alcohol-fueled experiences and how it affects intimacy.[00:50:21] What’s next for Kate—career growth, self-discovery, and making up for lost time.[00:51:34] Kate’s honest take: Will her marriage survive if her husband starts drinking again?[00:52:31] Final thoughts from Kathleen and Sonia—relationships in sobriety, part one of many.Links & ResourcesFollow Kate: Walking the Straight LineSisters In Sobriety Substack – Extra tips, tricks, and community support.Sisters In Sobriety Instagram – Let’s connect!Email Us – Got thoughts? We want to hear ‘em.Kathleen’s Website – Kathleen does not endorse any products mentioned in this podcast.Kathleen’s Instagram – Talking relationships & sobriety every day.Our Sponsors:* Check out TruDiagnostic and use my code SIS2025 for a great deal: https://www.trudiagnostic.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/sisters-in-sobriety/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy