Instinctual Perspectives on Relationship

Our group chat finally met together in the flesh after a year of friendship.We (unsurprisingly) discuss our types [seen left to right]:Jack - sx/so 278(367)Hannah - so/sx 397(416)Alexandria - so/sp 693(782)Megan - sp/so 479(368)

Megan [sp/so 479(368)] and Alexandria [so/sp 693(782)] join Jack [sx/so 278(367)] for some ramblings and musings on instinctual impacts on relationship. Most of the episode's focus is on the contrasting experiences between a waxing point of view and a waning point of view.Jack's mic has some technical difficulties for the first few minutes. It doesn't last the whole episode.

Jack and Olivia host their former client (and present friend) Megan to discuss their shared and separate experiences of moving through the world as Heart Types.For your reference, their types are as follows:Jack - sx/so 278(367)Olivia - sx/sp 361(479)Megan - sp/so 479(368)

Olivia and Jack run through common mistypings they see in their clients and discuss what overlaps & misconceptions are likely to cause these phenomena.

Meet NMT's third typist! Originally a client, Olivia's now been typing clients with us since Summer of 2024. Here we discuss her experience with her interesting type setup [sx/sp 361(479)] and our recent discoveries since realizing she is social blind!

Jack and Jessica share the difference in their findings between Attachment fixes with Frustration wings and Attachment fixes with Rejection wings. 0:56 - Attachment Types have either a Frustration wing or a Rejection wing 2:34 - Introduction of Eugene 3:05 - Commonality of Attachment fixes 3:45 - Shielded types - Attachment with Rejection wings 4:32 - Exposed types - Attachment with Frustration wings 5:27 - Eye contact 6:12 - Why Frustration types are not exposed 9:32 - 3w4 appearing self-conscious 10:23 - Jessica's experience being double exposed 13:20 - Single vs. double exposure 13:40 - Social-blindness ruining eye contact 15:44 - Exposed types feeling uncomfortable 16:51 - Jack being obsessed with eye contact 20:34 - Contrasting exposed and shielded iterations of the same type Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠ to check out our site, where you can read our ⁠⁠⁠⁠data-informed type descriptions⁠⁠⁠⁠, learn about ⁠⁠⁠⁠our perspective⁠⁠⁠⁠, and most importantly, ⁠⁠⁠⁠get typed⁠⁠⁠⁠ behaviorally! Join our ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook group⁠⁠⁠⁠ for conversations about the Enneagram from a scientific lens! We make stupid memes and educational content on ⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠, too.

Jack and Jessica discuss a model of Object Relations manifesting on a quarter. 0:40 - Overview / review of Object Relations 3:00 - Assertive Types (3, 7, 8) and the Nurturing Object 4:09 - Compliant Types (1, 2, 6) and the Protecting Object 6:08 - Withdrawn Types (4, 5, 9) and the Belonging Object 7:53 - Hexad vs. Triangle 9:27 - Using a quarter as an "object" lesson: Frustration and Rejection as two sides of the same coin 13:53 - Attachment Types continuing connection to their Objects 15:54 - 7 and 8 having opposite affects toward the Nurturing Object 17:13 - Hexads per Center of Intelligence as inversions of each other 20:56 - Jack vocalizing his opinions 22:15 - Triangle types ending up somewhere they didn't intend to be 24:46 - Hexad types having already toppled / landed 25:37 - Attachment Types refusing to individuate 27:49 - Difference between the life journeys of triangle types and hexad types 30:36 - Jessica's real-time Frustration 33:40 - Sample of a past argument Click ⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠ to check out our site, where you can read our ⁠⁠⁠data-informed type descriptions⁠⁠⁠, learn about ⁠⁠⁠our perspective⁠⁠⁠, and most importantly, ⁠⁠⁠get typed⁠⁠⁠ behaviorally! Join our ⁠⁠⁠Facebook group⁠⁠⁠ for conversations about the Enneagram from a scientific lens! We make stupid memes and educational content on ⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠, too.

Jack and Jessica discuss the movie Saltburn, unpacking the type structures of the characters and overall Enneagram themes throughout the film. 0:40 - How actors' types distort the intended types of the characters they play 2:06 - Overall themes of Saltburn 3:11 - Summary of the film 4:28 - Emerald Fennell (director / screenwriter) 6:25 - Oliver 9:00 - Felix 12:40 - Elspeth 16:00 - Venetia 18:20 - Sir James 18:55 - Duncan 19:45 - Farleigh 23:36 - Michael 24:50 - Pamela 27:00 - sx-blind audience's reactions to Saltburn's shocking scenes 28:35 - Mythological imagery 29:57 - Attachment types in crisis 31:25 - Emerald's 7-1 link incorporating long-game foreshadowing 32:37 - Ignorance of British aristocracy 33:45 - Elspeth being double positive 34:53 - sp-blind's world being highly external / relational 35:30 - Oliver's unbelonging 36:25 - Felix's tour of Saltburn 38:08 - sx/so's singular attention in making a new friend Click here to check out our site, where you can read our data-informed type descriptions, learn about our perspective, and most importantly, get typed behaviorally! Join our Facebook group for conversations about the Enneagram from a scientific lens! We make stupid memes and educational content on TikTok, too.

Melea, Jack, and Jessica unpack the five remaining portions of the instinctual cycle, picking up from where they left off with sx/sp. Be sure to view the diagram of the ⁠instinctual cycle⁠ while you listen! 2:02 - Overview of the terms "waxing" and "waning" 3:04 - sp/so as a singular form maturing into a broader world 6:34 - so/sx as multiplicious procreation 9:10 - How do the waxing stackings show up behaviorally? 12:15 - sx/so as advertisement of remaining fertility 16:15 - Contrasting sx/so with sx/sp 18:37 - so/sp as the mature symbol of its kind 21:05 - sp/sx as decay / death 23:20 - Contrasting sp/sx with sp/so 24:55 - Jessica leaving traces for others in the future 27:06 - How our dominant instinct feels life/death to our psyche 28:45 - GIFs for the sexual instinct as secondary vs. dominant 30:20 - Melea measuring her energy by meaningful interactions 32:05 - Jessica thinks a lot about food Click ⁠⁠here⁠⁠ to check out our site, where you can read our ⁠⁠data-informed type descriptions⁠⁠, learn about ⁠⁠our perspective⁠⁠, and most importantly, ⁠⁠get typed⁠⁠ behaviorally! Join our ⁠⁠Facebook group⁠⁠ for conversations about the Enneagram from a scientific lens! We make stupid memes and educational content on ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠, too.

Melea, Jack, and Jessica explore NMT's discovery of the instinctual cycle, building from David Gray's original concepts of "synflow" and "contraflow." Be sure to view the diagram of the instinctual cycle while you listen! 1:35 - Overview of the three instincts 9:30 - Wondering how the instincts relate to Maslow's hierarchy of needs 10:33 - Overview of instinctual cycle as life and death processes 13:00 - Jack failing at the self-preservation instinct 14:55 - Jessica failing at the social instinct 18:10 - David Gray's "flows" 23:09 - Why is knowing about "flow" helpful? 24:35 - Finding the sexual instinct's location in a vertical diagram 27:20 - sx/sp as conception / creation 30:32 - Self-preservation reinforcing sexual's agenda 34:35 - Renaming "synflow" as "waxing" and "contraflow" as "waning" Click ⁠here⁠ to check out our site, where you can read our ⁠data-informed type descriptions⁠, learn about ⁠our perspective⁠, and most importantly, ⁠get typed⁠ behaviorally! Join our ⁠Facebook group⁠ for conversations about the Enneagram from a scientific lens! We make stupid memes and educational content on ⁠TikTok⁠, too.