
Some stories are so wild, they deserve a reboot.
We’re bringing back an episode that didn't get the attention it deserved:
Rippling vs Deel — the alleged corporate espionage saga.
Inside, we break down:
• The employee who allegedly flipped sides and fed intel
• The Slack searches that were anything but discreet
• A bathroom confrontation that would be hilarious if it weren’t real
• And what does Russia have to do with all this?
Then we step back and tackle the bigger questions:
• Is this just one rogue case or the start of “SaaSpionage”?
• How can scaleups protect themselves from insider threats?
• What happens when growth pressure pushes companies past ethical lines?
If your instinct is “This would never happen to us,” this episode might change your mind.
Available wherever you get your podcasts.
The case is ongoing: https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2025/10/20/deels-billionaire-cofounders-just-got-500-million-richer-but-theyre-still-poorer-than-bitter-rival-ripplings-parker-conrad/
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