
Ken McElroy joins Mark Moss to explain why good debt is how meaningful wealth actually gets built, why somebody else should pay off the loan, and why multifamily looks like 2008 again after cheap-rate buyers got crushed.
They discuss Kiyosaki’s $1.2 billion of good debt, the 1971 shift to a debt-based dollar, 50–60% leverage versus buying cash, depreciation as a tax weapon, getting investor capital back in five years through cash-out refinances, starting in single family before syndications, and why Ken is buying in Dallas, Phoenix, and Salt Lake without betting on rates falling. ___________________________________________________________________________________________
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Episode Trailer
0:49 - If You Don't Understand Debt, You Don't Understand Wealth
2:38 - 1971 Turned the Dollar Into Debt
6:28 - Ken's Rule: Somebody Else Pays Off the Debt
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11:15 - Credit vs Borrowing and Why Velocity Matters
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33:22 - Ken’s Criteria for New Real Estate Deals
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44:35 - Why Multifamily Feels Like 2008
52:14 - Single Family First or Passive Syndications?
54:34 - Where Ken Is Buying Rentals and Why Rates Won't Save You ___________________________________________________________________________________________
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