Episode 709: Lisa Landrum: Building Community Through Running, Making Races More Accessible, and Empowering Young Girls

Jess McClain is back on the podcast ahead of the NYC Marathon! After finishing fifth at the 2026 Boston Marathon in 2:20:49, the fastest time ever run by an American woman on the course, Jess continues to establish herself as one of the top marathoners in the country. Jess and I catch up on her recent 66:53 half marathon PR at the World Road Running Championships in Copenhagen, her progression from running the Mesa Marathon for fun to becoming an Olympic Trials contender, and what she’s looking forward to in New York. We also talk about how she’s approaching the road to the 2028 Olympics after narrowly missing the team in 2024. We get into her relationship with coach David Roche, why she chooses to navigate professional running without an agent, and how she balances elite training with her full-time role as a nonprofit executive director and her new involvement as a part owner of The Marathon Project. Plus, Jess reflects on her decision to return to Brooks, the friendships she’s built in the sport, and why keeping running fun and maintaining perspective have been so important to her success. Support our Sponsors: DONNA Marathon Weekend: Join me February 5–7, 2027 in Jacksonville, Florida, for the 20th anniversary celebration supporting breast cancer patients and research. Register at breastcancermarathon.com with code LINDSEY10 for 10% off. Lagoon – Getting good sleep is one of the best things I can do for my recovery, and I truly love my Lagoon pillow. I sleep hot, so the Cooling Otter Pillow has been a game changer, and I love that I can customize the fill to get just the right amount of support. Take their quick sleep quiz and use code LINDSEY for 15% off your order. BEAM Minerals: Beam Minerals provides mineral and electrolyte replenishment, with the Advanced Set pairing Electrolyze and Micro-Boost in one simple daily routine. Go to BeamMinerals.com/another for 15% off, automatically applied at checkout. Indy Monumental Marathon: Join me, Ally Brettnacher, Athletic Annex, and Brooks for a post-race celebration at Brothers Bar & Grill on Mass Ave from 3–6 PM. Tickets here! Shakeout run details here.  The post Episode 710: Jess McClain: A Full-Time Job, World Champs PR, and NYC Next appeared first on SandyBoy Productions.

I’m really excited to have Lisa Landrum on the podcast today! Lisa is a running and strength coach who has run and paced distances from the 5K to 100 miles. She’s a Boston Marathon finisher and multi-time qualifier, and she’s also completed the Grand Canyon Rim to Rim to Rim. Lisa is the founder of RunCLTRun, a connector of the running community, and co-founder of Crown Collective, a race event community and marketing hub in Charlotte. She’s also a mom of three! One of the things Lisa does that I love so much is host an annual running camp for high school girls. We talk about that, her work building community through running, and her involvement with Around the Crown 10K, which I ran back in August. One of my favorite things about Around the Crown is its pay-what-you-can registration model, which makes racing more accessible. Lisa shares more about how that works, and I really hope more races will consider doing something similar! I hope you enjoy this conversation with Lisa! Links: Learn more about Lisa: https://forwardmotionclt.com/lisa-landrum Around the Crown 10K: https://aroundthecrown10k.com Our Sponsors:  Kava Haven: Kava Haven is a consciously crafted, kava-infused non-alcoholic spirit designed to provide a refreshing alternative to alcohol with a little buzz and none of the booze. Go to KavaHaven.com/IllHaveAnother for 15% off your order, automatically applied through the landing page. AquaOmega: AquaOmega offers concentrated omega-3 supplements made exclusively from anchovies and available in soft gels or liquid form to support heart health, brain function, mood, and healthy aging. Go to MyAquaOmega.com/another and use code ANOTHER for 20% off. Goodr: Goodr sunglasses are no-slip, no-bounce, all polarized, and actually affordable, with tons of fun styles and colors for summer. Go to goodr.com/another for $10 off your first order. The post Episode 709: Lisa Landrum: Building Community Through Running, Making Races More Accessible, and Empowering Young Girls appeared first on SandyBoy Productions.

Emma Grace Hurley is back on the podcast, and this time she’s getting ready for a big first: her marathon debut at the Chicago Marathon. Emma Grace has put together an incredible year across just about every distance. She won the Cherry Blossom 10 Mile, set an American record in the 8K, finished second at the USATF 5K Championships, and most recently placed fifth at the World Half Marathon Championships in Copenhagen, running 66:23 as the top American finisher. In this conversation, I catch up with Emma Grace ahead of Chicago to talk about the decision to move up to the marathon, how training has looked, what she’s learned from racing the half marathon, and how she’s approaching 26.2 for the first time. Emma Grace is sponsored by ASICS and coached by Andrew and Amy Yoder Begley. Support our sponsors: HUUG makes high-quality bras and underwear designed to actually fit and support your body through every phase of life. Their pieces are comfortable, functional, and built for movement, making them a go-to for everyday wear, running, and training alike. Use the code Lindsey for 15% off at huug.com. Previnex – I start my day with Previnex Gut & Green Superfoods and end it with their Sleep Health Plus. I trust Previnex because their products are third-party tested, backed by science, and designed to help support energy, recovery, sleep, immunity, and healthy aging. Use code ANOTHER for 15% off your first order at Previnex.com. If you’ve already used that code, you can also use LindseySuperfoods, LindseySleep, or LindseyStrength depending on the product you’re trying. Lagoon – Getting good sleep is one of the best things I can do for my recovery, and I truly love my Lagoon pillow. I sleep hot, so the Cooling Otter Pillow has been a game changer, and I love that I can customize the fill to get just the right amount of support. Take their quick sleep quiz and use code LINDSEY for 15% off your order. The post Episode 708: Emma Grace Hurley: 5th in the World to Her Marathon Debut in Chicago appeared first on SandyBoy Productions.

Nicky Tamberrino is the host of Maybe Running Will Help, the newest addition to the SandyBoy Productions Podcast Network. She’s a sub-three-hour marathoner, running coach based out of Baltimore, lifelong athlete, and mother. Maybe Running Will Help is powered by Charm City Run, and Nicky has welcomed guests including Zach Bitter, Rory Linkletter, Ashley Paulson, and Killian Korth. In this conversation, Nicky and I have a very casual chat about what she’s up to, her history with running, and how she sees herself in the running space, community, culture, and industry. I definitely go off script in conversations like this, and it ends up being even more of a back-and-forth than my conversations with professional athletes. Hopefully this episode feels like an inside peek and gives you the chance to get to know both of us a little bit better. And if you enjoy I’ll Have Another, I highly recommend checking out Nicky’s podcast, Maybe Running Will Help. Stay connected: Nicky’s website: https://www.mayberunningwillhelp.com/ Nicky on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/1classy_motherunner/?hl=en Maybe Running Will Help? on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mayberunningwillhelp/?hl=en Subscribe to the Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/maybe-running-will-help/id1600171098 Our Sponsors:  Kava Haven: Kava Haven is a consciously crafted, kava-infused non-alcoholic spirit designed to provide a refreshing alternative to alcohol with a little buzz and none of the booze. Go to KavaHaven.com/IllHaveAnother for 15% off your order, automatically applied through the landing page. Lagoon Getting good sleep is one of the best things I can do for my recovery, and I truly love my Lagoon pillow. I sleep hot, so the Cooling Otter Pillow has been a game changer, and I love that I can customize the fill to get just the right amount of support. Take their quick sleep quiz and use code LINDSEY for 15% off your order. Run Hard Half: The Run Hard Half in Lexington, South Carolina, offers a 5K, 10K, and half marathon on November 14, with the event supporting the Run Hard Children’s Program and its work teaching life skills to kids through running. Go to RunHardHalf.org and use code ANOTHER10 for 10% off registration. AquaOmega: AquaOmega offers concentrated omega-3 supplements made exclusively from anchovies and available in soft gels or liquid form to support heart health, brain function, mood, and healthy aging. Go to MyAquaOmega.com/another and use code ANOTHER for 20% off. The post Episode 707: Nicky Tamberrino: Maybe Running Will Help? appeared first on SandyBoy Productions.

Annie Rodenfels is back on the podcast! Annie is one of the seven women we’re sending to the Half Marathon World Championships in Copenhagen, and I’m so excited to see her making this jump up in distance. Annie is a newbie to the half marathon. The U.S. Championships was actually her first half marathon! She’s known for being a steeplechaser and 5K runner, and she’s making the pivot to longer distances while still dabbling in the shorter distances as well. She’s definitely not done there. Annie is a D3 legend. She was a three-time national champion at Centre College, and after college she joined a pro team in Greenville, South Carolina, before eventually joining Team New Balance Boston. Now she’s training under Coach Julie Benson with the Meridian team and landed her first real-deal sponsorship with Salomon about a year ago. We talk about how meaningful it was for her to finally land that deal and what that support has meant for her career. She’s also a three-time champion of the New York Road Runners Abbott Dash to the Finish Line 5K, winning it in 2023, 2024, and 2025. We talk about her excellent half marathon debut at the U.S. Championships and, of course, the finish-line drama. Annie crossed the finish line third, but there was a whole situation with a group of women being taken off course, and she gives us the rundown on what actually happened. Now she’s getting ready to represent Team USA in Copenhagen, and there are definite plans to eventually pursue the marathon. It’s so exciting to see Annie move into these longer distances. She’s such a strong runner, and I personally think the marathon is going to be a great spot for her. And we have a fun little chat about books at the end, too! All right, friends, please enjoy my conversation with Annie Rodenfels! Support our Sponsors: BEAM Minerals: Beam Minerals provides mineral and electrolyte replenishment, with the Advanced Set pairing Electrolyze and Micro-Boost in one simple daily routine. Go to BeamMinerals.com/another for 15% off, automatically applied at checkout. Little Spoon: Little Spoon makes feeding kids easier with clean, nutritious meals designed for every stage, from babies starting solids through elementary-aged kids. Their lineup includes baby blends, toddler-friendly Biteables, and big-kid Plates and Build It Yourself Lunchers, with 100+ ingredients banned across all products. Go to LittleSpoon.com/another and use code ANOTHER for 30% off your first order. Goodr: Goodr sunglasses are no-slip, no-bounce, all polarized, and actually affordable, with tons of fun styles and colors for summer. Go to goodr.com/another for $10 off your first order. The post Episode 706: Annie Rodenfels: Making the Jump to the Half Marathon and Representing Team USA appeared first on SandyBoy Productions.

Today we get to hear from a UTMB finisher and co-host of the Trail Network Podcast, Leah Yingling! It was such an honor to talk with Leah on the show. I’ve looked up to her for a long time, and I can’t believe this is actually her first time being on the podcast one-on-one. Leah is one year postpartum and just completed UTMB with a 12th place finish in just over 24 hours. She’s no stranger to this race. In 2023, she had a top-10 finish at UTMB, and that same year she also finished in the top 10 at Western States. She’s a three-time top-10 finisher at Western States. In this episode, you’re going to hear all about her UTMB experience, but we also bring it way back to her early days of running and talk a lot about what the postpartum process of returning to running has looked like for her. Leah really carved her own path getting to the start line of UTMB, taking her time coming back to running, coaching herself for much of the year, and listening to what her body needed. Leah works full time in biomedical engineering and health data, is a Lululemon ambassador, and is mom to one-year-old Monty. Her husband, Mike, is also deeply involved in the trail world as both a photographer and ultra runner, so we talk a lot about what that balance has looked like for them as they navigate being first-time parents, working, training, and still finding time for each other. And, of course, we get into UTMB. Leah shares what it was like chasing a sub-24-hour finish and a top-10 spot, running the final hours alongside Amanda Basham, and walking away from a really good race while still knowing there’s more she wants to get out of herself. I so enjoyed this conversation with Leah. If you enjoy hearing from her, definitely go check out the Trail Network Podcast, which is part of the Sandy Boy Productions Podcast Network. Thank you so much for being here, and enjoy my conversation with Leah Yingling! Support our Sponsors: Kava Haven: Kava Haven is a consciously crafted, kava-infused non-alcoholic spirit designed to provide a refreshing alternative to alcohol with a little buzz and none of the booze. Go to KavaHaven.com/IllHaveAnother for 15% off your order, automatically applied through the landing page. Lagoon Getting good sleep is one of the best things I can do for my recovery, and I truly love my Lagoon pillow. I sleep hot, so the Cooling Otter Pillow has been a game changer, and I love that I can customize the fill to get just the right amount of support. Take their quick sleep quiz and use code LINDSEY for 15% off your order. Run Hard Half: The Run Hard Half in Lexington, South Carolina, offers a 5K, 10K, and half marathon on November 14, with the event supporting the Run Hard Children’s Program and its work teaching life skills to kids through running. Go to RunHardHalf.org and use code ANOTHER10 for 10% off registration. AquaOmega: AquaOmega offers concentrated omega-3 supplements made exclusively from anchovies and available in soft gels or liquid form to support heart health, brain function, mood, and healthy aging. Go to MyAquaOmega.com/another and use code ANOTHER for 20% off. The post Episode 705: Leah Yingling: One Year Postpartum and 12th at UTMB appeared first on SandyBoy Productions.

Today on the podcast we have Waleed Suliman! Waleed runs with the Brooks Beasts under Coach Danny Mackey. He ran at Ole Miss, where he was a five-time SEC champion and four-time NCAA All-American, and was part of their 2020 SEC Cross Country Championship team. He also placed third in the indoor mile at the NCAA Championships and has competed in both the 2021 and 2024 Olympic Trials in the 1500. When I was prepping for this interview, I heard Danny Mackey describe Waleed as a high risk taker, not afraid to fail, and very talented, and says that very few athletes he’s worked with have had all three of those qualities. I got to know him a little bit when he came to Raleigh for the Sir Walter Mile and knew I had to have him on the podcast. Unfortunately, he took a nasty fall at Sir Walter and ended up with a stress fracture in his sacrum, so his season ended a little earlier than planned. We talk about the injury, what recovery looks like, and why he’s leaning into some of the other things he loves, like fishing and music, while he can’t run. Waleed was born in Jordan after his parents fled Darfur, Sudan, and moved to the United States at 15. He became a 10-time state champion in Virginia before heading to Ole Miss, where his running really took off. I loved hearing more about his family’s story, adjusting to life in the U.S., finding his place through running, and eventually choosing Ole Miss. We also talk about why the team environment of the Brooks Beasts works so well for him, his relationship with Danny Mackey, what it’s like training alongside athletes like Josh Kerr, and where he wants to take his own career. Waleed has a 3:51 mile PR on the track, 3:52 on the roads, and a 3:33 1500 PR, and he feels like he still has a lot of unfinished business in the sport. And, of course, we get into the fun stuff too: fishing, music, his favorite no-skip albums, his girlfriend’s upcoming Berlin Marathon, and a few book recommendations. Enjoy my conversation with Waleed Suliman! Books recommended: Tuesdays with Morrie by Mitch Albom The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho Support our Sponsors: Little Spoon: Little Spoon makes feeding kids easier with clean, nutritious meals designed for every stage, from babies starting solids through elementary-aged kids. Their lineup includes baby blends, toddler-friendly Biteables, and big-kid Plates and Build It Yourself Lunchers, with 100+ ingredients banned across all products. Go to LittleSpoon.com/another and use code ANOTHER for 30% off your first order. HUUG makes high-quality bras and underwear designed to actually fit and support your body through every phase of life. Their pieces are comfortable, functional, and built for movement, making them a go-to for everyday wear, running, and training alike. Use the code Lindsey for 15% off at huug.com. Previnex – I start my day with Previnex Gut & Green Superfoods and end it with their Sleep Health Plus. I trust Previnex because their products are third-party tested, backed by science, and designed to help support energy, recovery, sleep, immunity, and healthy aging. Use code ANOTHER for 15% off your first order at Previnex.com. If you’ve already used that code, you can also use LindseySuperfoods, LindseySleep, or LindseyStrength depending on the product you’re trying. Goodr Goodr sunglasses are no-slip, no-bounce, all polarized, and actually affordable, with tons of fun styles and colors for summer. Go to goodr.com/another for $10 off your first order. The post Episode 704: Waleed Suliman: From Jordan to Ole Miss, the Brooks Beasts, and Unfinished Business in the 1500 appeared first on SandyBoy Productions.

Noah Droddy is back on the podcast! Noah is a 2:09 marathoner, retired professional runner, new dad, co-host of D3 Glory Days, and now works for Blistering Pace, where I’m lucky enough to work with him at a couple of their races each year. In this episode, we talk a lot about the transition from professional running to building a career outside of the sport. Noah opens up about realizing he was ready to walk away from professional running, the difficult period that followed, the rejection and uncertainty of his job search, and how he ultimately landed at Blistering Pace. We also talk about becoming a new dad, supporting his wife Emma as she trains for the Chicago Marathon, his changing relationship with running, some of the highs of his professional career, D3 Glory Days, and why he wants other athletes navigating this transition to know they don’t have to do it alone. I think this conversation is relatable far beyond professional running. Transitions are hard, and Noah speaks so openly about identity, purpose, rejection, and figuring out what comes next. Support our Sponsors: Previnex – I start my day with Previnex Gut & Green Superfoods and end it with their Sleep Health Plus. I trust Previnex because their products are third-party tested, backed by science, and designed to help support energy, recovery, sleep, immunity, and healthy aging. Use code ANOTHER for 15% off your first order at Previnex.com. If you’ve already used that code, you can also use LindseySuperfoods, LindseySleep, or LindseyStrength depending on the product you’re trying. Lagoon Getting good sleep is one of the best things I can do for my recovery, and I truly love my Lagoon pillow. I sleep hot, so the Cooling Otter Pillow has been a game changer, and I love that I can customize the fill to get just the right amount of support. Take their quick sleep quiz and use code LINDSEY for 15% off your order. Run Hard Half: The Run Hard Half in Lexington, South Carolina, offers a 5K, 10K, and half marathon on November 14, with the event supporting the Run Hard Children’s Program and its work teaching life skills to kids through running. Go to RunHardHalf.org and use code ANOTHER10 for 10% off registration. AquaOmega: AquaOmega offers concentrated omega-3 supplements made exclusively from anchovies and available in soft gels or liquid form to support heart health, brain function, mood, and healthy aging. Go to MyAquaOmega.com/another and use code ANOTHER for 20% off. The post Episode 703: Noah Droddy: Life After Professional Running appeared first on SandyBoy Productions.

This episode of I’ll Have Another Podcast is supported by Kava Haven: KavaHaven.com/IllHaveAnother for 15% off your order. Friends, Vanessa Fraser is back on the podcast! She hasn’t been on the show in probably eight years, so I was really excited to reconnect with her and hear everything she’s been up to. Vanessa ran at Stanford, where she was a 10-time All-American, before running professionally with the Bowerman Track Club. She has a 14:48 indoor 5K PR, spent some time training with Team Boss, went back to her college coach Coach Miltenberg, and now she’s announced that she’ll be working with David Roche as she sets her sights on the roads and, eventually, the marathon. Vanessa’s career hasn’t gone exactly how she expected it would when she turned pro. She’s dealt with injuries and a frustrating medical condition that has made fueling incredibly difficult. She recently stepped away from her corporate job and is going all in on running, and I loved hearing her perspective on constantly striving for something that doesn’t always come to fruition in the way you imagined. We talk about her years with Bowerman, Team Boss, going back to Coach Miltenberg, her relationship with Saucony, leaving the corporate world, her health struggles, and why she’s ready for this next chapter with David Roche. And we have to talk about Gigi! Vanessa recently ran a 4:31 mile with her dog, setting an unofficial world record for the dog mile. I loved hearing about their relationship and how much fun Vanessa had getting to race as a team with her dog. This conversation honestly helped me see some things in my own career in a fresh perspective. Vanessa made me feel really seen and cared for, and I hope she felt the same from me. I’m so grateful for conversations like this one, and I know you’re going to enjoy hearing more of Vanessa’s story and what she’s been up to over these past few years. Books recommended: Delusions by Cazzie David Support our Sponsors: Little Spoon: Little Spoon makes feeding kids easier with clean, nutritious meals designed for every stage, from babies starting solids through elementary-aged kids. Their lineup includes baby blends, toddler-friendly Biteables, and big-kid Plates and Build It Yourself Lunchers, with 100+ ingredients banned across all products. Go to LittleSpoon.com/another and use code ANOTHER for 30% off your first order. HUUG makes high-quality bras and underwear designed to actually fit and support your body through every phase of life. Their pieces are comfortable, functional, and built for movement, making them a go-to for everyday wear, running, and training alike. Use the code Lindsey for 15% off at huug.com. Tailwind NutritionTailwind Nutrition creates all-in-one endurance fuel and hydration products designed to be easy to digest while providing calories, electrolytes, and hydration during long efforts. Their products are built specifically for endurance athletes who want simple, effective fueling without GI issues. Kava Haven: Kava Haven is a consciously crafted, kava-infused non-alcoholic spirit designed to provide a refreshing alternative to alcohol with a little buzz and none of the booze. Go to KavaHaven.com/IllHaveAnother for 15% off your order, automatically applied through the landing page. The post Episode 702: Vanessa Fraser on a 4:31 Dog Mile, Health Challenges, and the Marathon Ahead appeared first on SandyBoy Productions.

This episode of I’ll Have Another Podcast is supported by Kava Haven: KavaHaven.com/IllHaveAnother for 15% off your order. Today on the podcast, we’ve got Monica DeVreese, one of the co-founders of Rabbit. Rabbit has been some of my favorite running apparel, especially recently, and when we launched the Female Founded series, I really wanted to have Monica on the podcast. Monica has over 20 years of experience in the industry and owns the Santa Barbara Running Company with her husband. She has experience as a runner, consumer, specialty running store owner, and brand builder. She’s run a 2:57 marathon, completed several 100-mile distances, spends a lot of time on the trails, and is also a mother of two. I have to say, I think it’s pretty obvious that Rabbit is owned by two women because, to me at least, you can tell the female body was taken into deep consideration when designing their apparel. I’m loving their new shorts with the roses on them and have been wearing them all the time. They’re so cute. I love getting to know industry leaders and people in this community outside of the pro runners sometimes. I’m excited to share this conversation with Monica and I know you’re going to find her inspiring just like I did. If you’re enjoying the podcast, leave us a quick rating and review and share it with your friends on social media. I would really appreciate it. Thank you to our sponsors: Kava Haven: Kava Haven is a consciously crafted, kava-infused non-alcoholic spirit designed to provide a refreshing alternative to alcohol with a little buzz and none of the booze. Go to KavaHaven.com/IllHaveAnother for 15% off your order, automatically applied through the landing page. BEAM Minerals: Beam Minerals provides mineral and electrolyte replenishment, with the Advanced Set pairing Electrolyze and Micro-Boost in one simple daily routine. Go to BeamMinerals.com/another for 15% off, automatically applied at checkout. Run Hard Half: The Run Hard Half in Lexington, South Carolina, offers a 5K, 10K, and half marathon on November 14, with the event supporting the Run Hard Children’s Program and its work teaching life skills to kids through running. Go to RunHardHalf.org and use code ANOTHER10 for 10% off registration. AquaOmega: AquaOmega offers concentrated omega-3 supplements made exclusively from anchovies and available in soft gels or liquid form to support heart health, brain function, mood, and healthy aging. Go to MyAquaOmega.com/another and use code ANOTHER for 20% off. The post Episode 701: Monica DeVreese on Building Rabbit, Running 2:57, and a Life in the Running Industry appeared first on SandyBoy Productions.