S2 E9: The Hillsong Chapter with Nate Nakao

What better way to kick off the year than an episode with Marla Taviano! Check out her first episode on the podcast here to hear the backstory behind living wholeFARTedly, and about her amazing trilogy: unbelieve, jaded, and whole. In this episode Marla and I talk about being creative as a way to heal, looking back at our past selves, and Marla’s cool goal of being on 50 podcasts for her 50th year! Check her out on Instagram(s) or her website, and most of all, go buy read and ENJOY her cool cool books 😎 Website: https://itsmemarla.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marlataviano/ White Girl Learning Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whitegirllearning/ Connect with Maggie: Instagram Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠ Join the conversation on discord Visit ⁠dauntless.fm⁠ for more content Learn more about Amy's music: Website Foray Music Instagram This is a Dauntless Media Collective Podcast. Visit dauntless.fm for more content.

Not again… Right? That’s what we’re all thinking over at the Dauntless Media Collective. So we got together to talk about our grief, our anger, and our sadness about the election results on November 5th. We don’t have answers, but grieving together can feel better than grieving alone. So, come sit in your uncomfortable feelings with us.  Connect with Nate and Gail: Full Mutuality Podcast Full Mutuality website Instagram Connect with Scott Scott’s Website Chapel Probation Podcast Horny Chapel Podcast Connect with Jessica Leaving the Village Podcast Learn more about Content Warning Event and register here! And check out the list of amazing collaborators here. Connect with Maggie: Instagram Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠ Join the conversation on discord Visit ⁠dauntless.fm⁠ for more content Learn more about Amy's music: Website Foray Music Instagram This is a Dauntless Media Collective Podcast. Visit dauntless.fm for more content.

Nate co-hosts the Full Mutuality podcast with his wife Gail, and he co-founded the Dauntless Media Collective with their friend Jessica, who hosts the Leaving the Village podcast. In this episode we talk about: Liquid Church Rock God and Pop God (What?!? I know, just listen to the episode.) Some other cool churches Hillsong NY… and the downfall of Hillsong NY Asian erasure Biracial identity  Connect with Nate: Full Mutuality on the Dauntless website  Full Mutuality website Instagram Learn more about Content Warning Event and register here! And check out the list of amazing collaborators here. Connect with Maggie: Instagram Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠ Join the conversation on discord Visit ⁠dauntless.fm⁠ for more content Learn more about Amy's music: Website Foray Music Instagram This is a Dauntless Media Collective Podcast. Visit dauntless.fm for more content.

Nate co-hosts the Full Mutuality podcast with his wife Gail, and he co-founded the Dauntless Media Collective with their friend Jessica, who hosts the Leaving the Village podcast. In this episode we talk about: IFB (Independent Fundamentalist Baptist) Churches Bob Jones University Weird fundamentalist music standards The weird dating scene at BJU Connect with Nate: Full Mutuality on the Dauntless website  Full Mutuality website Instagram Learn more about Content Warning Event and register here! And check out the list of amazing collaborators here. Connect with Maggie: Instagram Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠ Join the conversation on discord Visit ⁠dauntless.fm⁠ for more content Learn more about Amy's music: Website Foray Music Instagram This is a Dauntless Media Collective Podcast. Visit dauntless.fm for more content.

Gail (she/her) is an EXvangelical who is passionate about processing religious trauma and creating spaces to help people heal, deconstruct and decolonize harmful beliefs. She wants to be as determined in her dismantling as she was in her dissonance. She is a Canadian who just assumed American citizenship ready to move and roll up her sleeves to make a difference. Trigger warning: childhood abuse and domestic abuse In this episode we talk about: Foster care Positive aspects of the church  Cognitive dissonance Emotional abuse Embracing autonomy and agency Setting boundaries and prioritizing mental health Divorce and leaving unhealthy marriages  Letting go of the need to forgive Listen to Nate and Gail’s Ash Valentine’s Day episode here, and check out my episode on Full Mutuality here! Connect with Gail: Full Mutuality on the Dauntless website  Full Mutuality website Facebook Instagram  Learn more about Content Warning Event and register here! And check out the list of amazing collaborators here. Connect with Maggie: Instagram Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠ Join the conversation on discord Visit ⁠dauntless.fm⁠ for more content Learn more about Amy's music: Website Foray Music Instagram This is a Dauntless Media Collective Podcast. Visit dauntless.fm for more content.

Janice Lagata (she/her) is a writer, musician and matron saint of cats who is passionate about using humor to tell the truth about heavy things. Her work consistently laces themes of race, religion and gender with threads of witty wordplay and hopeful skepticism. In her capacity as an “exvangelical” person, she is known for being a vocal critic of evangelical megachurch culture in general and the hillsong brand specifically because she believes (almost) everyone involved deserves better. In this episode we talk about: White theology Hillsong College… and Hillsong NY Lack of diversity in church leadership Claiming christianity Revangelicalism  Making new connections in deconstruction  Better things to come! Connect with Janice: Website God Has Not Given Podcast Bad Words Podcast Read her Substack Or connect with Janice in person at Content Warning!  Learn more about Content Warning Event and register here! And check out the list of amazing collaborators here. Connect with Maggie: Instagram Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠ Join the conversation on discord Visit ⁠dauntless.fm⁠ for more content Learn more about Amy's music: Website Foray Music Instagram This is a Dauntless Media Collective Podcast. Visit dauntless.fm for more content.

April Ajoy (she/her) is a content creator and podcast host who uses humor to shine light on harmful, toxic, and sometimes just weird traits of American Evangelicalism. After growing up an evangelist’s kid entrenched in Christian Nationalism and working in conservative Christian media, she saw the harm caused firsthand. Still a Christian, she uses her platform to expose the dangers of Christian Nationalism while promoting a more inclusive faith. She’s been married to Beecher for 10 years and they have two daughters together. In this episode we talk about: April’s book Star-Spangled Jesus: Leaving Christian Nationalism and Finding a True Faith (which you can pre-order here!) America Say Jesus Tour Her father’s death and her brother coming out as gay sparked her shifting beliefs and deconstruction  Being Christian and voting Democrat (and how voting Republican doesn’t actually save babies…) If you’re coming out of Christian Nationalism, look back at the words of Jesus Connect with April: Instagram TikTok Listen to her America Say Jesus clip here Pre-order April’s book: Star-Spangled Jesus Learn more about Content Warning Event and register here! And check out the list of amazing collaborators here. Connect with Maggie: Instagram Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠ Join the conversation on discord Visit ⁠dauntless.fm⁠ for more content Learn more about Amy's music: Website Foray Music Instagram This is a Dauntless Media Collective Podcast. Visit dauntless.fm for more content.

Daniella Mestyanek (she/her) Young, scholar of cults, extreme groups and extremely bad leadership. Daniella is the author of Uncultured, a critically acclaimed memoir of growing up in the children of god cult and then going into the cult of US Army. Daniella holds a masters in organizational psychology from Harvard, and is working on a second book called The Culting of America In this episode we talk about: Children of God Cult Joining and leaving the US Army Control, sexual assault, and preparation for the apocalypse  Wearing wacky clothes as a form of expression Finding joy and happiness after deconstruction Connect with Daniella: Instagram Listen to her TedTalk Join her Deconstruction Book Club Buy and autographed copy of her book TikTok Some delightfully disrespectful merch  Connect with Maggie: Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/hello_deconstructionists/⁠ Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠ Discord Server: ⁠https://discord.gg/C3DUZdF3HJ⁠  Visit ⁠dauntless.fm⁠ for more content Learn more about Amy's music: Website: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.amyazzara.com/⁠ ⁠⁠⁠ Foray Music: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.foraymusic.com/⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/amyazzara/⁠⁠ This is a Dauntless Media Collective Podcast. Visit dauntless.fm for more content.

Sarah McCammon is an NPR Correspondent and author of “The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living, and Leaving the White Evangelical Church.” In this episode we talk about: Growing up evangelical in the midwest Shifting views on LGBTQ+ people  Growing up in the evangelical bubble The evangelical support of Donald Trump  Alternative facts and misinformation Connect with Sarah Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarahmccammon_journalist/?hl=en  Substack: https://sarahmccammon.substack.com/p/misogyny-from-the-pulpit  Connect with Maggie: Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/hello_deconstructionists/⁠  Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠ Discord Server: ⁠https://discord.gg/C3DUZdF3HJ⁠  Visit ⁠dauntless.fm⁠ for more content Learn more about Amy's music: Website: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.amyazzara.com/⁠ ⁠⁠⁠ Foray Music: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.foraymusic.com/⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/amyazzara/⁠⁠ This is a Dauntless Media Collective Podcast. Visit dauntless.fm for more content.

Katrina Ford grew up in a missionary family in Africa. She is now a motivational speaker and life coach that specializes in religious trauma, academic sabotage and good girl syndrome. In this episode we talk about: Religious an spiritual abuse Academic sabotage Good-girl syndrome Transitioning from life as a missionary kid, to life in the US White, Christian Patriarchy  Connect with Katrina Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katrinaford_speaker/  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@katrina.ford  Connect with Maggie: Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/hello_deconstructionists/⁠ Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠ Discord Server: ⁠https://discord.gg/C3DUZdF3HJ⁠  Visit ⁠dauntless.fm⁠ for more content Learn more about Amy's music: Website: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.amyazzara.com/⁠ ⁠⁠⁠ Foray Music: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.foraymusic.com/⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/amyazzara/⁠⁠ This is a Dauntless Media Collective Podcast. Visit dauntless.fm for more content.