Bitcoin Corporate Treasuries with Pierre Rochard | Bitcoin Infinity Show #181

Pierre Rochard joins the Bitcoin Infinity Show to talk about Bitcoin's financial evolution, from his early Lightning Network innovations to defending miners against political attacks and now leading the charge on corporate treasury companies like MicroStrategy and Riot. They dive into the debate over self-custody versus financialized Bitcoin products, the risks and rewards of leveraging debt to stack BTC, and how bridging fiat institutions could accelerate adoption in a world where fiat's collapse looms. This episode unpacks why option value and competitive products might reshape Bitcoin's future, even as self-sovereignty remains the ultimate ideal. Connect with Pierre: https://x.com/BitcoinPierre Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf Join the Bitcoin Infinity Academy at our Geyser page: https://geyser.fund/project/infinity Thanks to our sponsors - check out their websites for info: BitVault: https://bitvault.sv/ - Use Code INFINITY for 10% off! BitBox: https://bitbox.swiss/infinity - Use Code INFINITY for 5% off! Club Orange: https://www.cluborange.org/ Bitcoin Adviser: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/freedom ShopInBit: https://shopinbit.com/bitcoininfinity - Use code INFINITY for a €5 discount! The Bitcoin Infinity Show is a Bitcoin podcast hosted by Knut Svanholm and produced by Luke de Wolf.

This episode of the Bitcoin Infinity Academy cover Bitcoin: Independence Reimagined Chapter 13: Laws and Effects Read the chapter on Nostr: https://primal.net/infinity/independence-reimagined-chapter-13-laws-and-effects Join the academy at our Geyser page: https://geyser.fund/project/infinity The Bitcoin Infinity Academy is an educational project built around Knut Svanholm’s books about Bitcoin and Austrian Economics. Each week, a whole chapter from one of the books is released for free on Highlighter, accompanied by a video in which Knut and Luke de Wolf discuss that chapter’s ideas. You can join the discussions by signing up for one of the courses on our Geyser page! Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf

Natalie Brunell joins the Bitcoin Infinity Show to talk about her new book Bitcoin is for Everyone, blending personal stories from fiat struggles to Bitcoin's empowering hope for skeptics and beginners alike. They explore sound money's role in ending victim mentalities, rebuilding confidence through literacy and Austrian economics insights, and why Bitcoin represents true capitalism and freedom for all. From inflation's hidden toll to Bitcoin 101 fundamentals, this episode unpacks how perfect money rewards value, competition, and long-term thinking in a world of weak fiat illusions. Connect with Natalie: https://x.com/natbrunell Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf Join the Bitcoin Infinity Academy at our Geyser page: https://geyser.fund/project/infinity Thanks to our sponsors - check out their websites for info: BitVault: https://bitvault.sv/ - Use Code INFINITY for 10% off! BitBox: https://bitbox.swiss/infinity - Use Code INFINITY for 5% off! Club Orange: https://www.cluborange.org/ Bitcoin Adviser: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/freedom ShopInBit: https://shopinbit.com/bitcoininfinity - Use code INFINITY for a €5 discount! The Bitcoin Infinity Show is a Bitcoin podcast hosted by Knut Svanholm and produced by Luke de Wolf.

This episode of the Bitcoin Infinity Academy cover Bitcoin: Independence Reimagined Chapter 12: The Secular Individual Read the chapter on Nostr: https://primal.net/infinity/independence-reimagined-chapter-12-the-secular-individual Join the academy at our Geyser page: https://geyser.fund/project/infinity The Bitcoin Infinity Academy is an educational project built around Knut Svanholm’s books about Bitcoin and Austrian Economics. Each week, a whole chapter from one of the books is released for free on Highlighter, accompanied by a video in which Knut and Luke de Wolf discuss that chapter’s ideas. You can join the discussions by signing up for one of the courses on our Geyser page! Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf

Anil Patel joins the Bitcoin Infinity Show to talk about Michael Saylor's Bitcoin treasury playbook, from the 2020 inflation panic that prompted MicroStrategy's first 10K BTC buys to the debt-financed "gears" now holding over 250,000 BTC with yields far below Bitcoin's projected 30% annual growth. They explore Saylor's board orange-pilling via his Mobile Wave thesis, the "bicycle gears" model for layered yield products like preferred shares and convertibles, and Bitcoin's first-principles design as engineered economic energy. Anil's new book The Treasury of Michael Saylor visualizes these strategies, emphasizing custody risks and why corporate treasuries like MicroStrategy enhance but cannot supplant individual self-custody. Connect with Anil: https://x.com/anilpatel Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf Join the Bitcoin Infinity Academy at our Geyser page: https://geyser.fund/project/infinity Thanks to our sponsors - check out their websites for info: BitVault: https://bitvault.sv/ - Use Code INFINITY for 10% off! BitBox: https://bitbox.swiss/infinity - Use Code INFINITY for 5% off! Club Orange: https://www.cluborange.org/ Bitcoin Adviser: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/freedom ShopInBit: https://shopinbit.com/bitcoininfinity - Use code INFINITY for a €5 discount! The Bitcoin Infinity Show is a Bitcoin podcast hosted by Knut Svanholm and produced by Luke de Wolf.

This episode of the Bitcoin Infinity Academy cover Bitcoin: Independence Reimagined Chapter 11: The One Shot Principle Read the chapter on Nostr: https://primal.net/infinity/independence-reimagined-chapter-11-the-one-shot-principle Join the academy at our Geyser page: https://geyser.fund/project/infinity The Bitcoin Infinity Academy is an educational project built around Knut Svanholm’s books about Bitcoin and Austrian Economics. Each week, a whole chapter from one of the books is released for free on Highlighter, accompanied by a video in which Knut and Luke de Wolf discuss that chapter’s ideas. You can join the discussions by signing up for one of the courses on our Geyser page! Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf

Tomer Strolight joins the Bitcoin Infinity Show to talk about the true nature of Bitcoin ownership – why it’s the most powerful form of property ever created, how Bitcoin is literally alive, and why Bitcoin could fuel real-world secession movements like Alberta, Texas, and Madeira breaking free from fiat control. We dive deep into mining decentralization with OCEAN and DATUM, the sacred Satoshi, and why Bitcoin wars are actually healthy for the network. If you’re serious about understanding Bitcoin as money, philosophy, and freedom, this episode is a must-watch. Connect with Tomer: https://x.com/TomerStrolight Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf Join the Bitcoin Infinity Academy at our Geyser page: https://geyser.fund/project/infinity Thanks to our sponsors - check out their websites for info: BitVault: https://bitvault.sv/ - Use Code INFINITY for 10% off! BitBox: https://bitbox.swiss/infinity - Use Code INFINITY for 5% off! Club Orange: https://www.cluborange.org/ Bitcoin Adviser: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/freedom ShopInBit: https://shopinbit.com/bitcoininfinity - Use code INFINITY for a €5 discount! The Bitcoin Infinity Show is a Bitcoin podcast hosted by Knut Svanholm and produced by Luke de Wolf.

This episode of the Bitcoin Infinity Academy cover Bitcoin: Independence Reimagined Chapter 10: Protection from What? Read the chapter on Nostr: https://primal.net/infinity/independence-reimagined-chapter-10-protection-from-what Join the academy at our Geyser page: https://geyser.fund/project/infinity The Bitcoin Infinity Academy is an educational project built around Knut Svanholm’s books about Bitcoin and Austrian Economics. Each week, a whole chapter from one of the books is released for free on Highlighter, accompanied by a video in which Knut and Luke de Wolf discuss that chapter’s ideas. You can join the discussions by signing up for one of the courses on our Geyser page! Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf

Peter St Onge joins the Bitcoin Infinity Show to reveal how Bitcoin shatters 1,000-year empire money cycles, exposes fiat collapse, and flips inflation theft via Cantillon effects—plus Europe's looming 2025 meltdown and Bitcoin as the ultimate escape. As an Austrian economist, he demystifies why governments bungled banning Bitcoin, why hard money empowers the poor, and how tech like the internet echoes Gutenberg 2.0 for liberty. Dive into praxeology, statism critiques, and why Bitcoin reduces violence incentives in this must-watch for sovereign individuals. Connect with Peter St Onge: https://x.com/profstonge Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf Join the Bitcoin Infinity Academy at our Geyser page: https://geyser.fund/project/infinity Thanks to our sponsors - check out their websites for info: BitVault: https://bitvault.sv/ - Use Code INFINITY for 10% off! BitBox: https://bitbox.swiss/infinity - Use Code INFINITY for 5% off! Bitcoin Adviser: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/freedom ShopInBit: https://shopinbit.com/bitcoininfinity - Use code INFINITY for a €5 discount! The Bitcoin Infinity Show is a Bitcoin podcast hosted by Knut Svanholm and produced by Luke de Wolf.

This episode of the Bitcoin Infinity Academy cover Bitcoin: Independence Reimagined Chapter 9: Mainstream Mediocrity Read the chapter on Nostr: https://primal.net/infinity/independence-reimagined-chapter-9-mainstream-mediocrity Join the academy at our Geyser page: https://geyser.fund/project/infinity The Bitcoin Infinity Academy is an educational project built around Knut Svanholm’s books about Bitcoin and Austrian Economics. Each week, a whole chapter from one of the books is released for free on Highlighter, accompanied by a video in which Knut and Luke de Wolf discuss that chapter’s ideas. You can join the discussions by signing up for one of the courses on our Geyser page! Connect with Us: https://www.bitcoininfinityshow.com/ https://bitcoininfinitystore.com https://primal.net/infinity https://primal.net/knut https://primal.net/luke https://twitter.com/BtcInfinityShow https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm https://twitter.com/lukedewolf