Episode 11: Scilla Andreen, CEO & Founder of Impactful Networks, Inc.

Welcome back for another great week on the Digital Health Heavyweights podcast with your host Norm Volsky, this week we sit down for a fascinating conversation with the wonderful Scilla Andreen, CEO and founder of Impactful Networks. Together we discuss her journey from the film industry to mental health education. She emphasizes the importance of storytelling in creating community and connection, the role of ethical AI in emotional wellness, and the need for empathy in mental health technology. Scilla shares insights on the evolution of her organization, the impact of their programs, and the future goals for making mental health education accessible to all. “We are human beings wired to connect.” The conversation highlights the significance of seeking help, building trust, and the power of community in addressing mental health challenges. Learn how they are transforming mental health education through the power of storytelling!Takeaways🎬 Scilla Andreen emphasizes the importance of storytelling in mental health education. 🌍 Impactful Networks aims to make mental health education accessible and engaging. 🌱 The organization has evolved from film to focus on emotional wellness and resilience. 🤝 Community and connection are vital for mental health support. 🛤️ Sheila's journey reflects the organic evolution of her career into healthcare. 🆘 The need for teaching people to seek help is crucial in mental health. 🤖 Ethical AI can support emotional wellness but should not replace human connection. ⚠️ There are risks associated with mental health technology built without empathy. 📱 Misunderstood trends in digital mental health include the reliance on AI as a therapist. 🎓 Success for Impactful Networks includes raising funds to provide free programs in schools. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Impactful Networks02:25 Sheila's Journey from Media to Mental Health04:34 The Power of Storytelling in Mental Health08:48 Creating Change Through Community Engagement10:30 Evolving Focus on Mental Health Education17:20 Preventative Approaches to Emotional Wellness19:51 The Role of Storytelling in Behavior Change25:21 Ethical AI and Human Connection25:56 Balancing AI and Human Connection27:11 The Risks of Technology Without Empathy28:16 Misunderstood Trends in Digital Mental Health30:05 The Power of Storytelling in Mental Health33:58 Success Stories and Corporate Impact40:31 Personal Wellness Practices and Mindset47:24 Outro (1).mp4Follow, connect and subscribe:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/digital-health-heavyweights-podcastYoutube: https://youtube.com/@DigitalHealthHeavyweightsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/digitalhealthheavyweights/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heavyweightspodcast

In this episode of the Digital Health Heavyweights podcast, Norm Volsky interviews Donovan Pyle, founder of Health Compass Consulting, to explore the growing movement of employer-led healthcare reform. Donovan shares his journey into healthcare and explains how hidden costs, misaligned incentives, and outdated consulting models continue to drive unnecessary spending across employer-sponsored health plans. The conversation highlights the need for unbiased, fiduciary-driven consulting and more transparent procurement strategies that empower employers to take control of healthcare costs. Donovan also discusses real-world examples of cost reduction, the evolving digital health vendor landscape, and why employers must rethink how they select benefits partners. This episode offers practical insights into reducing healthcare waste while improving outcomes for employees and organizations alike.  Takeaways 🏢 Employers have significant influence over healthcare costs but often underestimate their power. 💸 Hidden waste and inefficiencies drive a large portion of healthcare spending. ⚖️ Traditional consulting and broker models can contain conflicts of interest. 🔍 Fiduciary, unbiased advice is critical for smarter healthcare decision-making. 📊 Employers need transparent procurement processes for healthcare vendors. 📉 Strategic vendor selection can lead to meaningful healthcare cost reductions. 🚀 Emerging digital health vendors are reshaping the benefits landscape. 📘 Employers benefit from structured playbooks for managing healthcare strategy. 🔄 Reform in healthcare purchasing must be led by employers themselves. 🌱 Personal balance and wellness are essential when advocating for systemic change.  Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Health Compass Consulting 03:01 Donovan's Journey into Healthcare 06:05 Understanding Employer Influence in Healthcare 08:41 The Need for a New Consulting Model 11:38 Identifying Waste in Healthcare Spending 14:34 The Role of Employers in Healthcare Costs 17:34 Case Studies of Successful Cost Reduction 20:16 Emerging Vendors and Market Changes 23:11 Challenges in Managing Healthcare Costs 25:45 Conflicts of Interest in Traditional Consulting 27:01 Broker Incentives and Objectivity 30:52 The Role of Benefits Consultants 36:11 The Need for a Fiduciary Process 38:29 Creating a Playbook for Employers 42:51 Transforming the Healthcare System 45:09 Optimism for Employer-Led Reform 47:04 Disruption in the Digital Health Industry 48:27 Balancing Work and Advocacy 49:37 Healthy Eating and Family Recipes 50:50 OutroFollow, connect and subscribe:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/digital-health-heavyweights-podcastYoutube: https://youtube.com/@DigitalHealthHeavyweightsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/digitalhealthheavyweights/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heavyweightspodcast

In this episode of the Digital Health Heavyweights podcast, Norm Volsky interviews Mark Mincy, Chief Commercial Officer of USRX, to unpack the complex and often opaque world of pharmacy benefit management. They discuss fiduciary risks, conflicts of interest within traditional PBM models, and the structural incentives that drive up pharmacy costs for employers and employees. Mark shares his career journey in the pharmacy benefits space and explains why transparency, accountability, and independent fiduciary oversight are essential to meaningful reform. The conversation also explores specialty drug cost drivers, high-deductible health plans, legislative shifts, and how employers can take greater control of their pharmacy strategy without relying solely on legacy PBMs.  Takeaways 💊 Pharmacy benefit management is one of the most misunderstood drivers of healthcare costs. ⚖️ Fiduciary risk in pharmacy benefits is growing and requires employer attention. 🏦 Traditional PBM models often contain structural conflicts of interest. 🔍 Transparency is critical for controlling pharmacy spending. 📈 Specialty drug costs are a major contributor to rising employer healthcare expenses. 🏢 Employers can reclaim control by reevaluating vendor relationships. 📜 Legislative reform may reshape the future of pharmacy benefit management. 🔄 Alternative PBM models are gaining traction as cost containment solutions. 💡 Evaluating pharmacy vendors requires deeper scrutiny beyond surface-level pricing guarantees. 🧘‍♂️ Maintaining personal wellbeing is crucial in a high-pressure healthcare industry.  Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Pharmacy Benefit Management 03:02 Mark Mincy's Journey in Pharmacy Benefits 05:51 Understanding the Corruption in PBM Systems 08:40 The Role of Fiduciaries in Pharmacy Benefits 11:41 Challenges in the Current PBM Model 14:28 Legislative Recommendations for Pharmacy Benefits 17:15 Innovative Approaches at USRX Care 19:43 The Conflict of Interest in Pharmacy Benefits 22:01 Strategies for Managing Specialty Drug Costs 23:37 Taking Control of Pharmacy Benefits 25:50 The Impact of High-Deductible Health Plans 27:38 Future of Pharmacy Benefit Management 31:01 Evaluating Pharmacy Benefit Vendors 33:50 The Shift Towards Alternative PBMs 37:36 Navigating Change in Pharmacy Benefits 38:28 Maintaining Personal Well-being in a Stressful Industry 42:16 Outro Follow, connect and subscribe:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/digital-health-heavyweights-podcastYoutube: https://youtube.com/@DigitalHealthHeavyweightsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/digitalhealthheavyweights/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heavyweightspodcast

In this episode of the Digital Health Heavyweights podcast, Norm Volsky interviews Sims Tillirson, founder of Tillirson Consulting Group, about his unexpected entry into employee benefits and how his experience has shaped his approach to consulting, sales, and digital health innovation. The conversation covers the importance of storytelling, building relationships, and continuous coaching. Sims shares his views on what consultants and brokers need, how transparency can unlock progress in healthcare, and why vendors must deliver real ROI to stand out in today’s saturated market. They also explore strategies for cost containment, evolving buyer expectations, and the connection between personal wellness and professional success.  Takeaways 🧠 Sims entered the employee benefits industry by accident but saw its long-term potential. 📚 Continuous learning and coaching are essential for personal and career growth. 📖 Storytelling is a powerful tool for building trust in consulting and sales. 💡 Point solution fatigue is real brokers are looking for clarity, not clutter. 💰 Transparency in healthcare pricing is critical for market transformation. 📦 Vendors must guarantee ROI to earn buyer trust in a crowded landscape. 🧭 The employee experience—not just tech—should be the north star. 📉 Cost containment efforts need to focus on high-impact strategies. 🌐 Innovation can stall without real disruption or accountability. 🏃‍♂️ Community engagement helps reduce stress and maintain balance.  Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Sims Tillirson and His Journey 03:04 Career Path and Lessons Learned 05:51 Transitioning to Consulting and Overcoming Challenges 08:57 Identifying Ideal Clients and Business Adjustments 11:41 Insights from Experience in Employee Benefits 14:44 Challenges in the Employee Benefits Ecosystem 17:42 The Need for Transparency in Healthcare 20:18 Coaching Brokers and Consultants 23:18 Common Challenges for Vendors in Employee Benefits 27:42 Standing Out in a Crowded Market 32:11 Changing Expectations of Brokers and Consultants 36:14 The Importance of Results in Vendor Relationships 38:21 Identifying Promising Vendor Pitches 40:32 Hunger for Stability and Accountability 42:06 The Need for Transparency in Healthcare 44:57 Impact of Incentives on Behavior 46:07 Data-Driven Cost Containment Strategies 48:38 Stalled Innovation and the Need for Disruption 50:31 The Importance of Impact Over Intent 51:35 Personal Strategies for Reducing Stress Follow, connect and subscribe:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/digital-health-heavyweights-podcastYoutube: https://youtube.com/@DigitalHealthHeavyweightsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/digitalhealthheavyweights/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heavyweightspodcast

In this episode of the Digital Health Heavyweights podcast, host Norman Volsky welcomes Lee Lewis, the Chief Strategy Officer and General Manager of Medical Solutions at the Health Transformation Alliance (HTA). They discuss the pressing issue of rising healthcare costs and the misconceptions that many leaders have about managing healthcare expenses. Lee shares his insights on the three major dogmas that hinder progress in healthcare cost management: the belief that costs are fixed, that saving money equates to harming people, and the notion that efforts to save money are not worth the trouble. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the disconnect between price and quality in healthcare, urging employers to take a proactive approach in managing their health benefits.Takeaways🔥 Healthcare costs aren’t fixed: the belief that “nothing can be done” is one of the biggest barriers to change🚫 Saving money does NOT mean hurting people: better outcomes often come from lower-cost, higher-value care⚠️ Doing nothing is the biggest risk: an 8–10% trend is far more disruptive than thoughtful change🎯 Incentives drive behavior: benefits leaders are punished for one bad call but barely rewarded for massive savings🧠 Employer decisions are rational… just misaligned: fear of disruption outweighs upside without leadership support🔍 Price ≠ quality in healthcare: some of the best outcomes come at the lowest prices🧾 Transparency without steerage can backfire: members may assume higher price means better care🤝 HTA’s power is benchmarking + real-world performance data: RFPs don’t predict outcomes, current results do🧪 Point solutions must earn their seat at the table: 1% impact, 2x+ ROI, clean math, and pay-for-performance only🧙‍♂️ The best point solutions are invisible: show up at the moment of need, solve the problem, then disappear🚪 Primary care is the front door to cost control: whoever controls primary care controls downstream spend🧭 Steer referrals with data:  aligned PCPs + high-value referral pathways can reset system incentives💰 Employers must reward value creators and punish profiteers: otherwise prices will keep rising💊 GLP-1s and specialty drugs are the next battleground: employers want direct purchasing at rational prices🧬 Cell & gene therapies need adult supervision — saying “yes” to any price sets a dangerous precedent👥 The right benefits team can flatten trend: talent + permission + incentives matter more than tools📉 Tie benefits leader comp to CPI:  hit CPI without cost shifting and eliminate constant plan design churn🚀 Healthcare innovation must break the “10% better for 10x cost” rule: real disruption requires order-of-magnitude value🧠 Culture change starts with rejecting bad dogma: flat trend is possible when leaders believe it isChapters00:00 Introduction to Lee Lewis and HTA01:37 The Fight Against Rising Healthcare Costs03:18 Misconceptions in Healthcare Management06:55 Understanding Price vs. Quality in Healthcare11:36 Employer Accountability in Healthcare14:37 The Role of HTA in Healthcare Solutions17:23 Structural Issues in Employer-Sponsored Healthcare20:54 Point Solutions: Successes and Failures31:15 The Importance of Advanced Primary Care35:41 Data Transparency and Performance Measurement46:57 Emerging Demands in Healthcare56:27 OutroFollow, connect and subscribe:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/digital-health-heavyweights-podcastYoutube: https://youtube.com/@DigitalHealthHeavyweightsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/digitalhealthheavyweights/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heavyweightspodcast

In this episode of the Digital Health Heavyweights podcast, Norm Volsky interviews Anish Sebastian, co-founder and CEO of Baby Scripts, a digital health startup transforming prenatal care through technology and data. Anish shares his journey into healthcare, the founding vision of Baby Scripts, and how the pandemic accelerated innovation in maternal care. The conversation highlights alarming U.S. maternal mortality rates, the importance of virtual monitoring, and how digital tools empower both patients and providers. They also dive into how AI could shape the future of maternal health, the need for system-level collaboration, and the role of active listening in effective innovation. Takeaways🤰 Baby Scripts is focused on improving prenatal care through digital health.📉 Maternal mortality rates in the U.S. are alarmingly high and rising.📲 Virtual care models can enhance access and outcomes for expectant mothers.👂 Active listening is essential in healthcare product innovation.📈 The pandemic accelerated the adoption of digital maternal health solutions.🧠 AI has the potential to redefine how care is delivered and accessed.🌍 Healthcare transformation requires collaboration among providers, payers, and patients.📦 Product-market fit evolved as Baby Scripts responded to market needs.👩‍⚕️ Personal health stories drive innovation in maternal care.🥗 Nutrition and wellness practices are part of the prenatal care equation. Chapters00:00 Introduction to Baby Scripts and Anish Sebastian04:36 The Birth of Baby Scripts09:30 Early Days and Product Market Fit12:05 Addressing Maternal Mortality14:50 Virtual Care and Access to Outcomes15:51 Impact of COVID on Maternal Health18:50 Future Innovations in Maternal Health19:07 Understanding Racial Inequality in Maternal Health23:05 Obesity and Pregnancy Complications24:32 Evolution of Baby Scripts' Product26:53 Accessing Baby Scripts and Partnerships28:40 Accessing Baby Scripts: A Patient's Journey30:35 Impactful Patient Stories: Real-Life Transformations32:24 Improving Patient Outcomes: The Baby Scripts Advantage35:51 Healthcare Transformation: The Role of Startup Health36:58 Active Listening: Keys to Success in Healthcare39:02 The Future of Digital Health: AI and Beyond40:34 Next Decade in Maternal Care: Innovations Ahead43:12 Living Health: Personal Wellness Practices46:26 Healthy Eating: Recipes and Tips for FamiliesFollow, connect and subscribe:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/digital-health-heavyweights-podcastYoutube: https://youtube.com/@DigitalHealthHeavyweightsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/digitalhealthheavyweights/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heavyweightspodcast

In this episode of the Digital Health Heavyweights podcast, host Norm Volsky speaks with Jacob Peters, founder of Superpower, and Prabhat Dhar, Executive Vice President of Enterprise at Superpower. They discuss their personal journeys into healthcare, the founding of Superpower, and the challenges and opportunities in the preventative health space. The conversation covers the importance of proactive healthcare, the need for actionable health data, and the role of technology in transforming the healthcare experience. They also touch on the challenges of scaling a health tech company, measuring success, and the importance of personal health intelligence. Takeaways🧠 Jacob Peters’ personal health journey was the catalyst behind founding Superpower.❤️ Prabhat Dhar emphasizes the humanity that must remain central to healthcare.🚀 Superpower is reimagining preventative health through a technology-enabled approach.🧪 The platform turns biomarker testing into clear, actionable insights.👥 Consumer education and awareness are critical drivers of enterprise health adoption.💪 Superpower’s model empowers individuals to take ownership of their health.📊 Digital health often prioritizes engagement metrics over true outcomes.🧩 Employers face point-solution fatigue across today’s healthcare ecosystem.📈 Preventative health ROI can be demonstrated through early risk identification.🧘 Stress management is essential for executives in high-pressure environment Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Superpower and Founders' Backgrounds02:08 Jacob Peters' Journey into Healthcare04:17 Prabhat Dhar's Perspective on Healthcare and Technology08:54 The Early Days of Superpower and Founding Vision12:44 Prabhat's Personal Experience and Motivation16:47 Investor Interest and the Future of Preventative Health19:25 Challenges in Preventative Healthcare21:28 The Need for Proactive Health Models24:13 Defining Success in Preventative Health26:22 Making Biomarker Data Actionable26:58 Transforming Healthcare with AI and Intelligence29:46 Navigating the Point Solution Landscape33:56 ROI in Preventative Healthcare Solutions37:53 Scaling Superpower: Challenges and Successes40:42 Measuring Impact: Success Stories from Superpower43:21 The Digital Health Ecosystem: What’s Missing?45:46 Managing Stress in a High-Stakes Environment48:26 Healthy Eating: Recipes for Optimal Health49:56 OutroFollow, connect and subscribe:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/digital-health-heavyweights-podcastYoutube: https://youtube.com/@DigitalHealthHeavyweightsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/digitalhealthheavyweights/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heavyweightspodcast

In this episode of the Digital Health Heavyweights podcast, Norm Volsky interviews Kris Davis, the Chief Operating Officer at OneImaging. Kris shares his journey from Google to the startup world, discussing his experiences at Virta and Sword Health, and the lessons learned from each role. He emphasizes the importance of customer success, leadership styles, and the need for a strong product focus in the digital health space. Kris also highlights the unique value proposition of OneImaging, which aims to cut imaging costs significantly while improving patient care. The conversation touches on maintaining balance in high-stress environments and the importance of healthy living performance.  Takeaways 🚀 Kris transitioned from Google to startups for the thrill of building something valuable. 📈 At Virta, Kris focused on customer success and implementation, scaling the company significantly. 🧠 Leadership styles can greatly impact team motivation and performance. 🎯 A strong product focus and customer experience are crucial for success in digital health. 🩺 Kris learned the importance of clinical integrity from Sami at Virta. 🛠️ Building a customer success function from scratch requires a solid blueprint. 💸 One Imaging's value proposition is centered around significant cost savings in imaging. ⚖️ Maintaining balance in a high-stress startup environment is essential for long-term success. 🥗 Healthy living and nutrition play a key role in performance and stress management. 🤝 Collaboration and team dynamics are vital for startup success.  Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Kris Davis and OneImaging 02:07 Transition from Google to Startups 03:51 Joining Virta and Its Mission 06:16 Building Customer Success at Virta 09:51 Lessons Learned from Sami at Virta 13:27 Leadership Styles and Team Dynamics 17:12 The Importance of Product and Customer Experience 18:57 Scaling Customer Success at Sword 22:55 The Journey from Zero to One at Sword 26:36 Joining One Imaging and Future Aspirations 28:25 Choosing One Imaging: A Strategic Decision 32:51 Elan: A Visionary Leader in Radiology 38:53 Pivotal Year for One Imaging: Growth and Challenges 44:23 Innovative Technology: Beyond Radiology 51:34 Maintaining Balance in a High-Stress EnvironmentFollow, connect and subscribe:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/digital-health-heavyweights-podcastYoutube: https://youtube.com/@DigitalHealthHeavyweightsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/digitalhealthheavyweights/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heavyweightspodcast

In this episode of the Digital Health Heavyweights podcast, Norm Volsky interviews Nandan Rao, CEO of Starlight, a virtual proactive care clinic. Nandan shares his background, including his experience founding Virtual Lab and his transition from international public health to digital health. He discusses the importance of culturally sensitive coaching, the mission of Starlight to improve patient adherence, and the successes the company has achieved in partnership with major health systems. Following the model of CMS ACCESS, Starlight coordinates closely with provider groups for referrals and co-management The conversation also touches on the challenges of navigating the healthcare system, the importance of technology in enhancing patient care, and the personal experiences that shape Nandan's leadership style.Check out their website here: https://hellostarlight.com/Takeaways🧠 Nandan Rao has a diverse background in public health and technology. 🌟 Starlight focuses on improving patient adherence through health coaching.🤝 Culturally sensitive coaching is crucial for patient engagement.💻 The integration of technology with healthcare can enhance patient outcomes.📉 Value-based care is essential for improving healthcare efficiency.🩺 Patient relationships with coaches drive better health outcomes.🏥 Starlight has successfully partnered with major health systems.🧩 Understanding patient behavior is key to increasing program participation.💰 The healthcare system often prioritizes profit over patient care.🧘‍♂️ Nandan emphasizes the importance of self-care and stress management for leaders. Chapters00:00 Introduction to Nandan Rao and Starlight01:27 Founding Virtual Lab and Its Impact04:41 Comparing International Public Health and Digital Health07:13 The Value of an Eclectic Career in Leadership12:17 The Inspiration Behind Starlight23:48 Starlight's Mission and Approach24:58 Success Stories and Outcomes from Starlight29:15 Enhancing Patient Engagement through Referrals32:15 The Balance of Technology and Human Touch in Healthcare36:06 Leveraging Technology for Better Patient Outcomes39:28 Creating Meaningful Patient Experiences40:23 Scaling Healthcare Solutions Across Diverse Populations44:14 Navigating the Financial Landscape of Healthcare55:30 Personal Well-being in a High-Stress EnvironmentFollow, connect and subscribe:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/digital-health-heavyweights-podcastYoutube: https://youtube.com/@DigitalHealthHeavyweightsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/digitalhealthheavyweights/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heavyweightspodcast

In this episode of the Digital Health Heavyweights podcast, Norm Volsky interviews Dr. Kumar Dharmarajan, co-founder and chief medical officer of World Class Health. They discuss Dr. Dharmarajan's journey in healthcare, the challenges of patient experience, and the importance of technology in improving healthcare delivery. The conversation delves into the economics of employer-sponsored healthcare, the mission behind founding World Class Health, and the potential of direct contracting and global healthcare solutions. Dr. Dharmarajan shares insights on engagement strategies, innovations, shaping the future of healthcare, and his personal health practices. Takeaways 💡 Clinical inspiration matters in healthcare operations ⚙️ Building technology for doctors requires understanding their workflow 🧑‍⚕️ Patient experience is often poor and needs improvement 🏢 Employer-sponsored healthcare is the largest payer in the U.S. 💰 Direct contracting can lead to significant cost savings 🌎 Global healthcare can offer high-quality care at lower prices 📈 Engagement strategies must be tailored to the audience 🔍 Data transparency is crucial for innovation and accountability 📊 Incentives should align between providers, employers, and patients 🧘‍♂️ Wellness and personal health practices are vital for healthcare leaders Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Kumar Dharmarajan and World Class Health 02:40 Lessons from Clover Health: Clinical Inspiration and Successes 05:17 Building Tech for Doctors and Patients: Key Principles 07:27 The Importance of Reducing Friction in Healthcare 09:55 Transitioning to Global Care Delivery: Motivations and Market Opportunities 12:28 Understanding Cost Disparities in Healthcare 14:25 Challenges in the Healthcare System: Misalignments and Transparency 17:38 Founding World Class Health: Personal Stories and Market Gaps 29:06 Global Centers of Excellence: Engagement and Cost Reduction 31:37 The Role of Nurses in Patient Care 34:23 Cost Savings in Healthcare 36:36 Demand for Specific Healthcare Services 38:32 Misconceptions About International Healthcare 41:39 Innovations in Global Healthcare 44:58 Engagement Strategies in Healthcare 51:59 Personal Wellness PracticesFollow, connect and subscribe:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/digital-health-heavyweights-podcastYoutube: https://youtube.com/@DigitalHealthHeavyweightsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/digitalhealthheavyweights/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heavyweightspodcast