#349 From AI Governance to AI Enablement with Stijn Christiaens, CEO at Collibra

Across the AI industry, high-stakes tools are being deployed in places where errors can harm people: sepsis alerts in hospitals, identity checks, welfare fraud detection, immigration enforcement, and recommendation systems that shape life outcomes. The pattern is familiar: scale and speed go up, while human review becomes rushed, shallow, or punished for disagreeing. In daily work, that can look like a nurse forced to act on false alarms, or a team using an LLM summary in ways the designers never planned. When should you slow down deployment? How do you detect new “wild” use cases early? And what does responsible tracking and oversight look like under real pressure?Atay Kozlovski is a Postdoctoral Researcher at the University of Zurich’s Center for Ethics. He holds a PhD in Philosophy from the University of Zurich, an MA in PPE from the University of Bern, and a BA from Tel Aviv University. His current research focuses on normative ethics, hard choices, and the ethics of AI.In the episode, Richie and Atay explore why AI failures keep happening, from automation bias to opaque targeting and hiring models. They unpack “meaningful human control,” accountability, and design in healthcare, government, and warfare. You’ll also hear about deepfakes, consent, digital twins, and AI-driven civic engagement, and much more.Links Mentioned in the Show:“Lavender” IDF recommendation systemAmnesty International reports on AI/automation in welfare systems“Meaningful Human Control” (MHC) frameworkConnect with AtayAI-Native Course: Intro to AI for WorkRelated Episode: Harnessing AI to Help Humanity with Sandy Pentland, HAI Fellow at StanfordExplore AI-Native Learning on DataCampNew to DataCamp?Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile appEmpower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

Data governance has been around long enough to develop playbooks, but AI governance is evolving in real time. Industry trends like LLMs, agents, and emerging “swarms” are changing what oversight even means, from data lineage to agent-to-agent provenance.For working teams, the questions are immediate: who leads—legal, security, IT, data, or a new AI role? How do you set standards so engineers aren’t using a different tool for every task? What maturity framework should you measure against, and how often should you reassess as technology shifts? How do you help teams move fast without breaking trust?Stijn is a data governance veteran and one of the leading thinkers in the space. He runs data strategy, data infrastructure, and product evangelism at the data and AI governance company Collibra. Since founding Collibra 18 years ago, Stijn has held several executive positions, including COO and CTO.In the episode, Richie and Stijn explore AI governance failures and wins, risks from agents that can act on systems, creating visibility with an agent registry, how AI governance differs from data governance, ownership across legal, security, IT, and data teams, EU AI Act risk tiers, and much more.Links Mentioned in the Show:CollibraConnect with StijnAI-Native Course: Intro to AI for WorkRelated Episode: The New Paradigm for Enterprise AI Governance with Blake Brannon, Chief Innovation Officer at OneTrustExplore AI-Native Learning on DataCampNew to DataCamp?Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile appEmpower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

Automation is moving from APIs to full “computer use,” where agents click through screens like a human. That power is transforming evidence collection, access reviews, and repetitive security tasks, but it also raises new risk. In everyday workflows, the safest gains often start with read-only actions, sandboxes, and clear opt-in for anything that writes changes. Do your tools know when an access request is an anomaly? Can you keep humans in the loop with fast review-and-approve steps? And if an agent can browse your systems, how do you stop data from walking out the door before customers or attackers notice?Jeremy Epling is Chief Product Officer at Vanta, where he leads product strategy and execution for the company’s trust management platform. He focuses on helping organizations automate security and compliance, enabling them to build and scale with confidence.Previously, he was VP of Product at GitHub, overseeing Actions, Codespaces, npm, and Packages—core components of the modern developer workflow used by millions worldwide. Before GitHub, Jeremy spent more than 16 years at Microsoft, leading product teams across Azure DevOps Pipelines and Repos, OneDrive, Outlook, Windows, and Internet Explorer. His work has centered on developer platforms, cloud infrastructure, and productivity tools at global scale.In the episode, Richie and Jeremy Epling explore AI-driven security risks, vendor data use and trade-secret leakage, governance and access controls, compliance beyond audits, how agents automate security questionnaires and vendor reviews, how to ship faster safely, human-in-the-loop design, and “computer use” automation, and much more.Links Mentioned in the Show:VantaVanta State of Trust ReportConnect with JeremyAI-Native Course: Intro to AI for WorkRelated Episode: Governing Pandora's Box: Managing AI Risks with Andrea Bonime-Blanc, CEO at GEC Risk AdvisoryExplore AI-Native Learning on DataCampNew to DataCamp?Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile appEmpower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

Physical AI is showing up across the industry as sensors, connected devices, and foundation models move from the cloud into the real world. After years of IoT wiring everything to the internet, the big shift is turning raw measurements and video into meaning, not just dashboards. For day-to-day teams, that changes how you monitor equipment, detect failures, and decide what to do next. When thousands of sensor streams hit storage, who turns them into insights and recommendations fast enough to matter? Can one model generalize across different sensors and conditions? And what must run on the asset versus the cloud?Dr. Ivan Poupyrev is CEO and Founder of Archetype AI, where he is building a multimodal AI foundation model that combines real-time sensor data and natural language to help people and organizations better understand and act on the physical world. The company is developing a developer platform to unlock new applications of Physical AI across industries.Previously, he was Director of Engineering at Google’s Advanced Technology and Projects (ATAP) division, where he founded and led large cross-functional teams to create Soli, a radar-based sensing platform, and Jacquard, a connected apparel platform powered by smart textiles and embedded ML. These technologies shipped in more than 15 products across 33 countries, including collaborations with Levi’s, YSL, Adidas, and Samsonite, and were integrated into flagship devices such as Pixel 4 and Nest products. His work has been widely published, recognized with major international awards, and featured in global media.In the episode, Richie and Ivan explore physical AI beyond robotics, turning IoT sensor streams into insights, recommendations, and automation, why physical foundation models differ from LLMs, sensor-fusion wins like wind-turbine failure alerts, edge deployment and privacy, how to pick a first project in practice, and much more.Links Mentioned in the Show:Archetype AIAttention Is All You Need (Original Transformer Architecture Paper)A Mathematical Theory of Communication (Shannon, 1948)Connect with IvanAI-Native Course: Intro to AI for WorkRelated Episode: Enterprise AI Agents with Jun Qian, VP of Generative AI Services at OracleExplore AI-Native Learning on DataCampNew to DataCamp?Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile appEmpower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

Quantum computing is advancing fast, but it comes with a core industry challenge: noise. The big promise—better simulations, faster optimization, and maybe new kinds of AI—depends on quantum error correction and scaling from physical qubits to reliable logical qubits. For working professionals, that translates into system design questions, not just theory. How do you budget for the overhead of error correction? What does a hybrid quantum‑classical workflow look like when classical processors must process error data in real time? If a quantum approach shows “advantage” today, how do you know a better classical heuristic won’t catch up next month? Where should you focus first: hardware readiness or use cases?Dr. Yonatan Cohen is a physicist, entrepreneur, and co-founder of Quantum Machines, where he serves as Chief Technology Officer. He earned his Ph.D. at the Weizmann Institute of Science in Israel, focusing on quantum electronics, superconducting–semiconducting devices, and microfabrication. He is also a co-founder and former managing director of the Weizmann Institute’s entrepreneurship program and has published extensively in peer-reviewed journals, with recognized contributions to quantum computing. As CTO, Dr. Cohen has played a key role in developing the Quantum Orchestration Platform, a first-of-its-kind control and operating system for quantum computers that accelerates the path to practical, useful quantum systems.In the episode, Richie and Yonatan explore near-term quantum simulation, encryption risks, the open question of quantum AI, noisy qubits and error correction, physical vs logical scaling, the need for algorithms and use cases, how to try quantum coding via Amazon Braket, and much more.Links Mentioned in the Show:Quantum MachinesAmazon BraketIBM QiskitNVIDIA Cuda QuantumGoogle CirqConnect with YonatanAI-Native Course: Intro to AI for WorkRelated Episode: Developing Better Predictive Models with Graph Transformers with Jure Leskovec, Pioneer of Graph Transformers, Professor at StanfordExplore AI-Native Learning on DataCampNew to DataCamp?Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile appEmpower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

AI moves fast, and the news cycle can feel like a fire hose. New tools like agents and digital twins promise to help, but they also add more choices and noise. In day-to-day work, the challenge is less about knowing every breakthrough and more about deciding what matters, then making time to act. How do you cut meetings down, say no without friction, and still ship real work? How do you open your mind to new ideas while avoiding hype? And when you do spot a signal, how do you turn it into action across teams, stakeholders, and shifting priorities.As the Head of Global Innovation at ServiceNow, Brian Solis drives vision and strategy for future-focused innovation. He has three decades of experience as a technology leader, and Forbes called him "one of the more creative and brilliant business minds of our time". Previously, Brian was VP of Global Innovation at Salesforce. He has written nine books, including the best selling "Mindshift". Brian is an author of the ServiceNow Enterprise AI Maturity Index 2025 Report.In the episode, Richie and Brian explore the challenges of staying updated with AI advancements, the importance of mindset shifts for innovation, the role of storytelling in driving change, and practical strategies for managing information overload, fostering organizational transformation, and much more.Links Mentioned in the Show:Brian’s Book: MindshiftServiceNowConnect with BrianAI-Native Course: Intro to AI for WorkRelated Episode: The New Paradigm for Enterprise AI Governance with Blake Brannon, Chief Innovation Officer at OneTrustExplore AI-Native Learning on DataCampNew to DataCamp?Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile appEmpower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

AI leaders talk about innovation, but the wider reality is messy: fast change, uneven guardrails, and threats that span cyber, reputation, and customer harm. Industry-wide, organizations are shifting from one-off compliance to lifecycle governance—from inception to decommissioning—supported by boards, CEOs, and frontline teams. For professionals, that shows up as coordination work: shared metrics, incentives for responsible delivery, embedded ethics partners, and rapid-response groups when a new risk appears. How do you decide who is accountable for model behavior? What signals should trigger escalation? And what sources can you trust to stay informed without getting overwhelmed?Andrea Bonime-Blanc, JD/PhD, is founder and CEO of GEC Risk Advisory, a board member, strategic advisor, and award-winning author. She specializes in the governance of change, advising companies, NGOs, and governments on global strategic risk, leadership trust, geopolitics, sustainability, cyber resilience, and exponential technologies. A former C-suite executive at four global companies, including Bertelsmann and PSEG, she has held roles spanning legal, risk, ethics, sustainability, and cybersecurity, and currently serves on multiple boards and advisory boards.Andrea is a Senior Fellow at The Conference Board, NYU’s Center for Global Affairs, and an AI Ethics Strategy Fellow at the American College for Financial Services. She is a sought-after keynote speaker and media commentator, appearing in outlets such as Bloomberg, the Financial Times, and The New York Times. She is the author of several books, including Gloom to Boom and most recently, Governing Pandora: Leading in the Age of Generative AI and Exponential Technology.In the episode, Richie and Andrea explore the rapid advancements in AI, the balance between innovation and risk, the importance of adaptive governance, the role of leadership in tech governance, and the integration of ethics in AI development, and much more.Links Mentioned in the Show:Andrea’s Book—Governing Pandora: Leading in the Age of Generative AI and Exponential TechnologyMIT AI Risk RepositoryConnect with AndreaAI-Native Course: Intro to AI for WorkRelated Episode: Rebuilding Trust in the Digital Age with Jimmy Wales, Founder at WikipediaExplore AI-Native Learning on DataCampNew to DataCamp?Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile appEmpower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

Data and AI teams are drowning in tools, but the big trend is consolidation and speed. AI-driven building is making dashboards, internal apps, and even data workflows feel more like products than reports. Custom interfaces, interactive presentations, and ad hoc apps are becoming easier to create than traditional BI artifacts.For working professionals, this raises practical questions: should you build a bespoke reporting site instead of another spreadsheet? Can you connect secure data views and prevent leaks by design? What does quality control look like when an agent writes the code—separate chats, clear plans, and tests? And what’s the real cost of going from idea to deployed app: a few dollars, or hundreds?Matt Palmer works at the intersection of developer experience, product marketing, and AI education. Leading Developer Relations at Replit, he helped grow Replit's revenue from $5M to $100M+. He creates content on vibe-coding, data transformation, AI, and more—blending technical depth with accessibility to empower developers and make complex tools approachable.In the episode, Richie and Matt explore the power of vibe coding, how non-developers are building impactful tools, the potential of AI in app development, the role of Replit in simplifying coding, and the future of personalized applications in data teams, and much more.Links Mentioned in the Show:ReplitCourse: Vibe Coding with ReplitYour Guide to ReplitConnect with MattAI-Native Course: Intro to AI for WorkRelated Episode: Building & Managing Human+Agent Hybrid Teams with Karen Ng, Head of Product at HubSpotExplore AI-Native Learning on DataCampNew to DataCamp?Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile appEmpower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

AI tools are becoming part of daily work for more professionals than ever before, yet adoption rates vary significantly across functions and company sizes. What separates organizations that successfully integrate AI from those that struggle? How do psychological factors like identity and autonomy shape how workers respond to AI implementation? And what role does corporate culture play in determining whether AI becomes a source of innovation or a point of resistance?Stefano Puntoni is the Sebastian S. Kresge Professor of Marketing at The Wharton School. Prior to joining Penn, Stefano was a professor of marketing and head of department at the Rotterdam School of Management, Erasmus University, in the Netherlands. He holds a PhD in marketing from London Business School and a degree in Statistics and Economics from the University of Padova, in his native Italy. His research has appeared in several leading journals, including Journal of Consumer Research, Journal of Marketing Research, Journal of Marketing, Nature Human Behavior, and Management Science. He also writes regularly for managerial outlets such as Harvard Business Review and MIT Sloan Management Review. Most of his ongoing research investigates how new technology is changing consumption and society, including how humans are adopting and evolving with AI.He is a former MSI Young Scholar and MSI Scholar, and the winner of several grants and awards. He is currently an Associate Editor at the Journal of Consumer Research and at the Journal of Marketing. Stefano teaches in the areas of marketing strategy, new technologies, brand management, and decision making.In the episode, Richie and Stefano explore the challenges of AI adoption in businesses, the psychological impacts on workers, the balance between human expertise and AI, the potential mental health effects of AI chatbots, and much more.Links Mentioned in the Show:Wharton SchoolConnect with StefanoMIT Report—The GenAI Divide: State of AI in Business 2025Wharton Report—Gen AI Fast-Tracks Into the EnterpriseAI-Native Course: Intro to AI for WorkRelated Episode: How to Build AI Your Users Can Trust with David Colwell, VP of AI & ML at TricentisExplore AI-Native Learning on DataCampNew to DataCamp?Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile appEmpower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

2026 is shaping up to be a pivotal year for data, AI, and how we work. From step-change improvements in foundation models to AI-native workflows reshaping careers, commerce, and education, the pace of change shows no signs of slowing. After revisiting and scoring their previous predictions, Richie, Jo, and Martijn turn their focus to what’s coming next in 2026.Building on last year’s discussion, we explore how AI will transform hiring and career progression, why personal AI tutors could become the default learning experience, how AI agents may begin executing real economic activity, and whether we’re on the brink of another “GPT-3 moment” driven by new hardware and scaling.Links Mentioned in the Show:Blog: The Junior Hiring CrisisBlog: The agentic commerce opportunity: How AI agents are ushering in a new era for consumers and merchantsAlex Banks on the ChatGPT era endingSpec & Evals Driven Agent Development (SEDAD) TemplateAI-Native Course: Intro to AI for WorkRelated Episode: Reviewing Our Data Trends & Predictions of 2025 with DataCamp's CEO & COO, Jonathan Cornelissen & Martijn TheuwissenExplore AI-Native Learning on DataCampNew to DataCamp?Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile appEmpower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business