CD166: JEFF GARDNER AND MAX HILLEBRAND - WHITE NOISE PRIVATE CHAT

Vertex is an open source nostr web of trust provider. Webs of trust are a method of quantifying verifiable reputations for spam mitigation, user discovery, social feeds, better app stores, and more.Pip on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqs0dqlgwq6l0t20gnstnr8mm9fhu9j9t2fv6wxwl3xtx8dh24l4auswr6u0j Vertex on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqstq4j6pk2sgaupru6l7ah9nq0dueafq356jllwcy7uzlek9yx7hlsel8nqn Vertex: https://vertexlab.io/ EPISODE: 167BLOCK: 905116PRICE: 847 sats per dollar(00:00:01) CNBC Intro(00:02:00) Happy Bitcoin Friday(00:04:27) Pip and Webs of Trust(00:06:49) Understanding Webs of Trust(00:14:16) App Store Security and Trust(00:18:53) Spam Mitigation(00:28:11) Client Side Solutions and Performance(00:35:33) Trust Models and Censorship Risks(00:45:02) Use Cases for Vertex(01:03:04) Relay Operations and Spam Control(01:11:01) Current State of the Nostr Ecosystem(01:17:10) Community Building and Onboarding(01:24:08) Closing Thoughts and Future PlansVideo: https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqs8vy4xuuny2hejghpjl57f77hh0t65gthaqhmjdwlwy7rr4ng3pzslchs0g support dispatch: https://citadeldispatch.com/donatenostr live chat: https://citadeldispatch.com/streamodell nostr account: https://primal.net/odelldispatch nostr account: https://primal.net/citadelyoutube: https://www.youtube.com/@CitadelDispatchpodcast: https://serve.podhome.fm/CitadelDispatchstream sats to the show: https://www.fountain.fm/rock the badge: https://citadeldispatch.com/shoplearn more about me: https://odell.xyz

White Noise is a secure private messenger that aims to provide similar functionality to Signal in a more open, interoperable, and robust way. The app uses the nostr protocol for identity and data transmission, and the MLS protocol for secure messages. Jeff on Nostr: https://primal.net/jeffg Max on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqst0mtgkp3du662ztj3l4fgts0purksu5fgek5n4vgmg9gt2hkn9lqv6g2cl White Noise on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqs8t4ehcdrjgugzn3zgw6enp53gg2y2gfmekkg69m2d4gwxcpl04ac04xqkmJeff on X: https://x.com/erskingardner White Noise on X: https://x.com/whitenoisechat White Noise: https://www.whitenoise.chat/ EPISODE: 166BLOCK: 904942PRICE: 898 sats per dollar(00:00:02) Trump Intro(00:02:10) Happy Bitcoin Thursday(00:04:00) Secure Private Messaging(00:06:56) Signal Protocol vs MLS Protocol(00:15:25) Nostr's Role in Secure Messaging(00:24:38) Privacy and Metadata Concerns(00:31:02) White Noise App Overview(00:36:37) Mesh Networking and Future Plans(00:45:00) Interoperability with Other Clients(00:52:53) MLS Protocol Features and Upgrades(00:58:07) Funding and Development of White Noise(01:04:29) Vibe Coding vs Traditional Coding(01:09:09) Community Involvement and Future PlansVideo: https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqswn6te79hfcr6mehrepgugtmvhcpn458fsk38c9yxs87pdyv39sms8zy3jtsupport dispatch: https://citadeldispatch.com/donatenostr live chat: https://citadeldispatch.com/streamodell nostr account: https://primal.net/odelldispatch nostr account: https://primal.net/citadelyoutube: https://www.youtube.com/@CitadelDispatchpodcast: https://serve.podhome.fm/CitadelDispatchstream sats to the show: https://www.fountain.fm/rock the badge: https://citadeldispatch.com/shoplearn more about me: https://odell.xyz

Praveen is the creator and maintainer of Cove Wallet. An open source mobile wallet focused on easy and powerful self custody. We discuss the current features of Cove, future roadmap, and his perspective on balancing tradeoffs when using bitcoin.Praveen on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsy8us3d6u5ynddk7lq7yz365hqqsptzd2923fvkgj4eepsady08uszccr0l Praveen on X: https://x.com/PraveenPereraCove Wallet: https://covebitcoinwallet.com/EPISODE: 165BLOCK: 903685PRICE: 923 sats per dollar(00:00:01) Jack Mallers Intro(00:03:14) Happy Bitcoin Wednesday(00:05:56) Cove Wallet Features and Goals(00:08:22) Technical Aspects of Cove Wallet(00:13:32) Future Plans for Cove Wallet(00:19:05) Node Connectivity and Privacy Features(00:29:01) Cove Wallet and Hardware Wallet Integration(00:36:00) Onboarding and User Experience(00:45:07) Seed Words and Alternative Backups(01:02:02) Collaborative Custody and Security(01:14:45) Future Features and Feedback for Cove Wallet(01:19:03) Bitcoin Industry and Market Thoughts(01:28:08) Custodial vs Self-Custodial Solutions(01:31:56) Closing Remarks and Future PlansVideo: https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqswqykpw9ufytzqgfsvcku58vv5plyu42jmu73lchuz2uwtldwszhqxt6dn8 support dispatch: https://citadeldispatch.com/donatenostr live chat: https://citadeldispatch.com/streamodell nostr account: https://primal.net/odelldispatch nostr account: https://primal.net/citadelyoutube: https://www.youtube.com/@CitadelDispatchpodcast: https://serve.podhome.fm/CitadelDispatchstream sats to the show: https://www.fountain.fm/rock the badge: https://citadeldispatch.com/shopjoin the chat: https://citadeldispatch.com/chatlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz

Alex Gleason was one of the main architects behind Donald Trump's Truth Social. Now he focuses on the intersection of nostr, ai, and bitcoin. We dive deep into how he thinks about the future of nostr and vibe coding: using ai tools to rapidly prototype and ship apps with simple text based prompts.Alex on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsqgc0uhmxycvm5gwvn944c7yfxnnxm0nyh8tt62zhrvtd3xkj8fhggpt7fyStacks: https://getstacks.dev/EPISODE: 164BLOCK: 901101PRICE: 957 sats per dollar(00:00:02) Alex's Presentation at the Oslo Freedom Forum(00:01:31) Challenges and Opportunities in Decentralized Platforms(00:02:31) The Role of AI in Decentralized Social Media(00:05:00) Happy Bitcoin Friday(00:06:09) Guest Introduction: Alex Gleason(00:07:02) Truth Social(00:10:35) Challenges of Centralized vs Decentralized Platforms(00:14:01) Bridging Platforms(00:19:13) Limitations and Potential of Mastodon and Bluesky(00:24:08) The Future of AI and Vibe Coding(00:31:08) Empowering Developers with AI(00:38:09) The Impact of AI on Software Development(00:47:02) Building with Getstacks.dev(00:53:04) Impact of AI Models(01:02:01) Monetization and Future of AI Development(01:14:07) Open Source Development in an AI World(01:22:17) Data Preservation Using NostrVideo: https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqs96kxmxc7mufgt6n2rxpphg8ptyx2kl47a7rj389jrwmvjy6rhuhgmfel87support dispatch: https://citadeldispatch.com/donatenostr live chat: https://citadeldispatch.com/streamodell nostr account: https://primal.net/odelldispatch nostr account: https://primal.net/citadelyoutube: https://www.youtube.com/@CitadelDispatchpodcast: https://serve.podhome.fm/CitadelDispatchstream sats to the show: https://www.fountain.fm/rock the badge: https://citadeldispatch.com/shopjoin the chat: https://citadeldispatch.com/chatlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz

Femi Longe is the Global Bitcoin Development Lead at the Human Rights Foundation. The HRF has been supporting bitcoin developers, designers, and educators with grants and assistance for over five years with a focus on expanding bitcoin's usage as freedom money.Femi on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsrjp40qtt73860r6ptfgr0ejwgl58s499egfvlvs49zszy4u2unaq6k0ry9Femi on X: https://x.com/femilongeHRF Dev Fund: https://hrf.org/devfundFive Year Report: https://hrf.org/latest/bitcoin-development-fund-5-year-report/EPISODE: 163BLOCK: 900510PRICE: 925 sats per dollar(00:00:00) AlJazeera Intro Clip(00:03:19) Happy Bitcoin Monday(00:04:26) Guest Introduction: Femi from HRF(00:05:13) Oslo Freedom Forum and Bitcoin's Role(00:09:04) HRF's Bitcoin Development Fund(00:14:15) Bitcoin's Global Impact and Challenges(00:21:15) Funding and Supporting Bitcoin Projects(00:31:29) Earning and Spending Bitcoin Globally(00:39:02) Innovations in Bitcoin Transactions(00:50:43) Investment and Support for Global Bitcoin Projects(01:00:09) The Importance of the Africa Bitcoin Conference(01:07:09) Final Thoughts and Call to ActionVideo: https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqsxfuxzcrnnp6l4u0q3t8p36g2nj984l5mzv0xw457yh9z0sqtc8rcu84ulssupport dispatch: https://citadeldispatch.com/donatenostr live chat: https://citadeldispatch.com/streamodell nostr account: https://primal.net/odelldispatch nostr account: https://primal.net/citadelyoutube: https://www.youtube.com/@CitadelDispatchpodcast: https://serve.podhome.fm/CitadelDispatchstream sats to the show: https://www.fountain.fm/rock the badge: https://citadeldispatch.com/shopjoin the chat: https://citadeldispatch.com/chatlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz

Seth is VP of Cake Wallet, a self custody bitcoin wallet available on ios, android, and desktop. We discuss their privacy focused features and how they plan to iterate going forward. We also discuss various other developments throughout the wider open source ecosystem.Seth on Nostr: https://primal.net/sethforprivacySeth on X: https://x.com/sethforprivacyCake Wallet: https://cakewallet.com/EPISODE: 162BLOCK: 899540PRICE: 959 sats per dollar(00:00:00) CNBC Intro(00:03:07) Happy Bitcoin Monday(00:04:34) Guest Introduction: Seth for Privacy(00:12:23) Cake Wallet Overview(00:17:25) Shitcoin Support and Strategy(00:26:17) Silent Payments Explained(00:50:51) Lightning Network Integration Challenges(00:56:31) Payjoin Implementation(01:09:05) Cashu and Custodial Wallets Discussion(01:36:12) Nostr and Distributed Social Media(02:06:42) Seedless Wallets DebateVideo: https://primal.net/citadelsupport dispatch: https://citadeldispatch.com/donatenostr live chat: https://citadeldispatch.com/streamodell nostr account: https://primal.net/odelldispatch nostr account: https://primal.net/citadelyoutube: https://www.youtube.com/@CitadelDispatchpodcast: https://serve.podhome.fm/CitadelDispatchstream sats to the show: https://www.fountain.fm/rock the badge: https://citadeldispatch.com/shopjoin the chat: https://citadeldispatch.com/chatlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz

Arbedout is the creator of Sigbash, a novel new collaborative custody tool, and author of Something More Profound, a book focused on the political economy of network protocols. Highlighting his deep experience working with open protocols we dive into topics including secure custody, inheritance, nostr, and potential bitcoin protocol changes.Arbedout on Nostr: https://primal.net/arbedoutSigbash: https://www.sigbash.comSomething More Profound: https://somethingmoreprofound.comEPISODE: 161BLOCK: 899077PRICE: 951 sats per dollar(00:00:00) Ross Ulbricht Intro Clip(00:04:04) Happy Bitcoin Friday(00:06:49) Guest Introduction: Arbedout(00:14:54) Exploring Sigbash: A New Multisig Solution(00:49:36) Launching a Book: Something More Profound(01:04:38) The Future of Nostr and Protocol Development(01:08:48) Bitcoin's Current State and Future Prospects(01:26:54) Soft Forks vs. Hard ForksVideo: https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqsxzqjw7qxg7n925prmpldcflax4yy2wdjh226h76048nzyzxfjk0g8xjzpdsupport dispatch: https://citadeldispatch.com/donatenostr live chat: https://citadeldispatch.com/streamodell nostr account: https://primal.net/odelldispatch nostr account: https://primal.net/citadelyoutube: https://www.youtube.com/@CitadelDispatchpodcast: https://serve.podhome.fm/CitadelDispatchstream sats to the show: https://www.fountain.fm/rock the badge: https://citadeldispatch.com/shopjoin the chat: https://citadeldispatch.com/chatlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz

John is an integral part of our five person team at Ten31 and we dive deep into how we think about deploying funds throughout the ecosystem. We explore topics such as merchant adoption, bitcoin treasury companies such as MSTR, and other trends to watch going forward.John on Nostr: https://primal.net/johnTen31: https://ten31.xyz EPISODE: 160BLOCK: 897442PRICE: 954 sats per dollarVideo: https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqsvnz85zs4x8qfzvr67a2c64nurmc88lv6rcwhpgwj7wnxjts9pckq6gshsmsupport dispatch: https://citadeldispatch.com/donatenostr live chat: https://citadeldispatch.com/streamodell nostr account: https://primal.net/odelldispatch nostr account: https://primal.net/citadelyoutube: https://www.youtube.com/@CitadelDispatchpodcast: https://serve.podhome.fm/CitadelDispatchstream sats to the show: https://www.fountain.fm/rock the badge: https://citadeldispatch.com/shopjoin the chat: https://citadeldispatch.com/chatlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz(00:00:00) OCC Intro Clip(00:02:17) Happy Bitcoin Monday(00:03:18) Guest Introduction: John Arnold(00:04:45) Discussion on Banks Holding Bitcoin(00:07:22) Bitcoin as Money for Enemies(00:10:19) John Arnold's Background and Bitcoin Journey(00:18:09) Steak and Shake Accepting Bitcoin(00:28:48) Bitcoin Treasury Companies(00:36:00) MicroStrategy's Bitcoin Strategy(00:51:58) Investment Strategy at Ten31(01:02:30) Bitcoin as Shared Equity(01:10:03) Missing Bitcoin Infrastructure(01:18:01) Bitcoin's Impact on Small Businesses(01:29:15) Current Bitcoin Market Analysis(01:42:01) Retail Demand and Bitcoin's Future(01:56:55) Final Thoughts and Sats Discussion

VNPRC is the lead maintainer of the Hashpool project, which aims to make mining more accessible using the cashu ecash protocol. He also runs Triangle BitDevs, a technical bitcoin meetup based in North Carolina.VNPRC on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsdxpfv503a2ga3ajqxw843hws9z7302ghpj4mcmjpa6qagmp9pwrs8222jg Hashpools: https://hashpool.dev Recent Hashpool Presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=F2p_V0svDTo&t=3h15m30s EPISODE: 159BLOCK: 896433PRICE: 974 sats per dollarVideo: https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqs0a5xzmsevjav509ngl6accy3utclesqm4azqkyh6xwylphwyqves4z9yt5 support dispatch: https://citadeldispatch.com/donatenostr live chat: https://citadeldispatch.com/streamodell nostr account: https://primal.net/odelldispatch nostr account: https://primal.net/citadelyoutube: https://www.youtube.com/@CitadelDispatchpodcast: https://serve.podhome.fm/CitadelDispatchstream sats to the show: https://www.fountain.fm/rock the badge: https://citadeldispatch.com/shopjoin the chat: https://citadeldispatch.com/chatlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz(00:00:00) Bill Miller IV on CNBC(00:01:24) Happy Bitcoin Monday(00:02:57) Triangle BitDevs(00:07:25) The Importance of Local Bitcoin Communities(00:11:05) Hashpools: A New Concept in Mining(00:16:43) Challenges and Development of Hashpools(00:25:02) EHash Tokens and Futures Market(00:36:42) Project Timeline and Call for Contributors(00:54:03) Technical Setup and User Experience(00:56:12) Open Source Collaboration and Future Plans(01:00:12) Reflections on BTC++ and Community Dynamics

Stephen Pollock is the SVP of Development at the Bitcoin Policy Institute. BPI is the leading bitcoin focused think tank in the United States. We discuss the current regulatory environment, status of the Samourai Wallet case, and the strong success so far shaping bitcoin policy in America.Disclosure: I am a founding board member of BPI.Stephen on X: https://x.com/spollockbtcBitcoin Policy Institute: https://btcpolicy.org BPI Summit: https://btcpolicysummit.orgP2P Rights Fund: https://p2prights.org EPISODE: 158BLOCK: 895392PRICE: 1061 sats per dollarVideo: https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqszeskwh7yg32c3xnxfvtq765rl9udu24ayeqsk3apfzm8xk5284wc46aa4x  support dispatch: https://citadeldispatch.com/donatenostr live chat: https://citadeldispatch.com/streamodell nostr account: https://primal.net/odelldispatch nostr account: https://primal.net/citadelyoutube: https://www.youtube.com/@CitadelDispatchpodcast: https://serve.podhome.fm/CitadelDispatchstream sats to the show: https://www.fountain.fm/rock the badge: https://citadeldispatch.com/shopjoin the chat: https://citadeldispatch.com/chatlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz(00:04:33) Bitcoin Policy Institute Overview(00:06:12) Guest Introduction: Stephen Pollock(00:09:20) Bitcoin for America Event Recap(00:12:16) Bitbonds and Strategic Bitcoin Reserve(00:16:43) Bitcoin Policy Institute's Mission and Impact(00:21:18) Congressional Fellowship Program(00:26:04) Stephen Pollock's Journey to Bitcoin Policy Institute(00:34:36) P2P Rights Fund and Samourai Developer Case(00:50:15) Bitcoin's Political Influence and Grassroots Support(01:09:44) Upcoming Bitcoin Policy Summit(01:26:22) Conclusion and Final Thoughts