
Vince Fakhoury Horn lays out three ways to prepare a dharma talk for teachers-in-training, exploring how detailed notes can polish a talk into dead words, why speaking with no preparation depends on being prepared not to be prepared, and whether minimal preparation is really the middle way between the previous two, or just the approach he happens to prefer.
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Vince: The dharma talk. Itâs a public talk in a way, but itâs a unique kind of public talk, because youâre talking about something of such deep importance and intimacy, and yet something that can be easily misunderstood or misconstrued.
So thereâs some need to be precise at times in the dharma talk, right, to say things in a way that are easily understood and not easily misconstrued. And at the same time, thereâs, I think, a recognition, right, as dharma students, that sometimes, like after youâve heard the same story 10,000 times from your favorite teacher, or whatever, it starts to sound kind of like dull, or like it lacks the same kind of aliveness that it used to have.
Part of the reason could be because it is actually in fact dull and just kind of like old hat and rehearsed to death. And so as a dharma teacher, we want to talk in a way thatâs alive and fresh and relevant to the moment and to who weâre speaking with, that is enacting that ideal of skillful means thatâs so important here in the Second Turning. How do we do that in reality? And here I want to present a model of preparation for the dharma talk in which there are three positions that Iâll throw out there. One is the detailed preparation approach. This is the position in which you spend a good amount of time preparing your dharma talk.
And you get whatâs basically like a close to script level detail. You almost could read the dharma talk from your notes. Itâs that detailed. It may not be completely script, but itâs close enough that you can gather all of the relevant information directly from your notes. And it has a very clear and planned out structure, and logical flow from one thing to another, perhaps building on a point, or presenting a list and going very methodically from one point to another subpoint of the list, the overall list youâre teaching, or whatever it might be. Thereâs some very clear and planned out structure. So thatâs the detailed preparation.
On the other end, the other side here is no preparation. So this is where you do little to no upfront preparation, aside from trusting your practice and trusting all the preparation youâve already done. Youâre really responding to the moment as itâs arising and changing, whoâs present. Maybe you have kind of a theme or title to work with, or maybe youâre just responding to questions in the moment. Maybe thereâs some very minimal structure, but thereâs within that a lot of formlessness in terms of your preparation. So thatâs the no-prep dharma talk. And then if you imagine these as two existing on a spectrum, right? Detailed preparation, no preparation. Then I want to present an apex position here called minimal preparation.
In the minimal preparation mode, there is a core structure, that you can see an overall flow or logic to the talk, but there are as few bullet points needed as possible to describe and detail out the subject matter that youâre getting into. In fact, within minimal preparation notes, for me, I wouldnât expect to see any quotes. I would have a separate page, maybe just one page for quotes, if I have stuff I want to share that I canât, you know, remember all the specifics from. But within my actual just minimal prep thing, itâs just bullet points, some basic subject headlines and some basic points.
Just something to remind me of what it is Iâm talking about. And then within that minimal structure, thereâs a lot of space for improvisation and for flow. So I want to talk about each of these a little bit more, and the relative upsides and downsides, and then just open it up for conversation.
So in terms of the detailed preparation mode, this is kind of how I started teaching, in which you spend a lot of time, painstaking effort, in getting your presentation prepared. And so thereâs a lot of upside to this.
You have a lot of control over what you end up saying. And if you get good at using these detailed notes, youâre not going to make a lot of flubs, verbally, linguistically. Youâre not going to sound like youâre all over the place. Itâll actually sound pretty logical, and itâll be easier to follow, more cognitively coherent.
Thereâs a way in which over time, youâre constantly editing your notes from dharma talk to dharma talk. So you give the same dharma talk over and over again, and you kind of get to perfect it.
Thatâs one thing I really noticed at IMS and Spirit Rock. The Insight Meditation tradition teachers is like, some of them had these dharma talks that theyâd been perfecting for decades, and like, they were brilliant. Like, they were like a really well-performed comedy act that had been refined to the nth degree. And the only reason it would be no longer relevant anymore is it just has been around long enough that culture changes and times change. You know, in terms of the form of it, itâs perfect, perfect as you can get for the relative world. But there are downsides to this approach, and Iâm sure youâre aware of at least some of them just thinking about them now, right? I mean, for one thing, itâs hard to change that much. You know, you could change things, but if you change things a lot, itâs a lot of work. So this kind of form of really detailed notes are kind of hard to adapt. They can be a little rigid. Can be hard to edit, since everything is so detailed and refers to everything else.
You know, if you change one thing, you have to change five, 10 other things. Whereas with, you know, the minimal preparation approach, for instance, you might just change one bullet point, and then over here, another bullet point. Because of the increased detail, thereâs more maintenance to maintain the style of notes.
The other thing, I think the main downside with these kind of notes, is if we get disconnected from the deeper spirit of what weâre saying and we start to just sound rehearsed, then this comes across asâin the Zen tradition, they call this dead words. We start sounding like weâre just saying some dead words.
And I shared this experience with many of you before, but I had the ultimate detailed-note, dead-word teaching experience with Kenneth Folk one day on retreat, when I was teaching on Dongshanâs Five Ranks. And it was so sad to me too, because I had taught on this in a previous retreat, and had really been alive and very much live words.
And so because I was trying to look good in front of my teacher and be, you know, I guess like, validated, I ended up making the mistake of just too much reliance on the words, and got lost in words. And I think thatâs what can happen. We get lost in these kind of concepts, and weâre just throwing around words and trying to make this beautiful word salad. And itâs like, no, itâs a salad. Itâs a word salad. Thereâs something missing underneath it. You know, thereâs some sustenance and some substance thatâs lacking. So thatâs the dead word challenge. Now, no preparation can respond to that challenge, right? If you come in without any preparation, if you come in and youâre just like, âOkay, here we go. Uh, whatâs the topic? Whatâs the question? Go.â Then there is this potential for more flow and more spontaneity. And if you really have done some training, and youâve learned some stuff, and you have access to it, then itâll comeâat least some of it will. And so you can kind of trust that these words will be alive.
I have some notes here. Iâm using the minimal preparation method for this presentation. Here, the upside of the no preparation is you can learn how to trust your intuitive wisdom. You can start to kind of get a sense for what yoâŚ
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