S23 - Ep 10 - A Complete Unknown

How do you bring a game world to life for the screen — especially when that world already has millions of devoted fans? Cinematographer Catherine Goldschmidt knows firsthand — and her work on The Last of Us reveals just how complex that challenge can be. Catherine Goldschmidt joins Robert “Skid” Skidmore to discuss her work on the second season of HBO's The Last of Us, with co-host Gianni Damaia bringing the perspective of a longtime fan and gamer. Together, they dig into the complex visual language of an adaptation that blurs the line between game and cinema — from shot-for-shot recreations to bold deviations. We cover: Catherine’s approach to adapting game cinematics into film language — including when to match and when to break away How The Last of Us uses space, light, and camera movement to draw viewers into Ellie’s experience Constructing visual set pieces like the subway ambush and Jackson assault with a blend of practical stunts, VFX, and strategic camera placement The emotional and logistical challenges of staging Joel’s death The visual shift from chaos to quiet in Episode 2’s final montage — and how that deliberate pacing reshapes the episode’s emotional impact Catherine also reflects on how her collaboration with multiple directors and departments shaped the season’s look and feel, and how visual storytelling can remain grounded even in the most heightened, post-apocalyptic moments. 🎧 Listen now to join us Below the Line with Catherine Goldschmidt — and explore more at www.belowtheline.biz.

What does it mean to "edit for emotion" in a show built around crime, identity, and betrayal? Eric Litman knows — and his work on Dope Thief proves it. Eric Litman returns to the cutting room — this time, with Robert “Skid” Skidmore and co-host Christopher Angel — to share how he approached the editorial storytelling in Apple TV+’s Dope Thief, a show that lives or dies by its tonal precision and dual-lead structure. Guided by Chris’s thoughtful questions, the conversation digs into Eric’s instincts as an editor, the creative latitude he was given on the show, and the real collaboration that happens between editors, directors, and showrunners — all while serving a distinct visual and emotional tone. 🎞 How does an editor decide when to hold or cut away from a performance? 🧩 What does Eric look for when selecting alternate takes during tense scenes? 🧠 How does post shape the story, not just the footage? Whether you’re a film editor yourself, a creative working in episodic TV, or just a fan of layered, propulsive storytelling — this episode is for you. 🎧 Press play and go Below the Line with Eric Litman — and explore more at www.belowtheline.biz.

What does it take to keep track of iconic props across the Marvel Cinematic Universe? Assistant Property Master Travis Bobbitt would know—he’s been doing it for over a decade. In this episode of Below the Line, Robert “Skid” Skidmore and co-host Gianni Damaia sit down with (returning guest) Travis Bobbitt to talk about his journey through the MCU, culminating in his latest work on Thunderbolts. From organizing massive prop warehouses to navigating the fast-paced demands of a Marvel set, Travis shares what it’s really like working behind the scenes on some of the biggest blockbusters of our time. Whether you're a filmmaker curious about the property department's role or a Marvel fan eager for behind-the-scenes stories, this episode offers a rare glimpse into the creative logistics that keep superhero worlds believable. 🎬 How do props evolve from concept to screen? 🛠 What’s the pressure like working on a franchise with millions of fans? 🧠 What does continuity actually look like across ten-plus Marvel projects? Listen in for practical insights, war stories from the lot, and a few laughs with someone who’s helped shape the MCU from the inside out. 🎧 Hit play and go Below the Line with Travis Bobbitt — and explore more at www.belowtheline.biz.

Set Decorator Regina Graves, Property Master Michael Jortner, and 2nd Assistant Director Brad Robinson provide a plethora of insights from behind the scenes of “A Complete Unknown”, the 2024 Bob Dylan biopic starring Timothée Chalamet and directed by James Mangold. 

Cinematographer Pedro Gomez Millan shares stories from the set of “Daredevil: Born Again”, Disney’s 2025 continuation of the live action superhero saga that aired on Netflix between 2015 and 2018. Also continuing his co-host streak: Gianni Damaia!

Film Editor Matthew Barber returns to the podcast to discuss his work on “Long Bright River”, the limited series starring Amanda Seyfried that is currently streaming on Peacock. Gianni Damaia joins us again as co-host!

For today’s conversation, Assistant Directors Robert Scott and Kevin Koster reminisce about their time on “JAG”, the long-running legal drama that aired 10 seasons from 1995 to 2005. Robert was there for Season 1, which aired on NBC, and Kevin joined the AD team for Season 2, when CBS picked up the show. Both ADs were there at the end, and have stories to share about the various studios that hosted production, how the show’s relationship with the military evolved over the years, and the overlapping seasons when the “NCIS” spinoff was waxing ascendant. Also some namedropping and a lot of laughs along the way.

Amazon Prime’s “The Sticky” is a clever bit of storytelling: the tale, inspired by the real-life heist of $18 million worth of maple syrup from Quebec’s national reserves, combines drama, suspense and comedy in equal parts. Helping knit together these disparate elements is the work of Score Composer FM Le Sieur, who joins us today to discuss his musical influences, his composing process and the specific inspirations for this very Canadian piece of work. Also happy to have fellow composer Louis Weeks join us as co-host, offering additional insights as we explore what makes the score for this six-episode series truly unique.

Kevin Bacon returns to the small screen with “The Bondsman”, and today we welcome back two veterans of the podcast, Production Designer Eve McCarney and Costume Designer Liz Vastola, to discuss the challenges of a show that’s balancing genre spectacle and family drama. Co-host Gianni Damaia has some good questions, but primarily he wants to know what it’s like working with Kevin Bacon (he has a “Tremors” image on his wall). All eight episodes of the first season are currently available on Prime.

One more look back at the 2025 Awards Season, and I’m joined by my go-to panel of fellow below-the-liners: Katie Carroll, Bill Hardy, Roger Mendoza and Shaun O’Banion. Did “Anora” deserve all those statues? Should “Dune: Part Two” have been awarded more? Who got snubbed, and which losses are we cheering? That and more, with lots of laughs.