Type 2 Travel

Fifty episodes. One season. And the announcement I've been keeping secret from almost everyone in my life, until now.This is the Season One finale of the Type 2 Travel Podcast, and it's the sequel to Under Construction, the biggest episode in the history of this show. That one was recorded days before I left for a two-month trip through India, Kenya, Egypt, and Morocco. This one is everything that happened after I hit publish: the phone call that changed the trajectory of my business on day one, the house that refused to sell until I came home to say goodbye, and the realization that snuck up on me somewhere in between: for the first time in five years, I don't need this business to survive.Which left me holding a question I couldn't put down all spring...if it's not about survival anymore, what is it for?This episode is the answer. The whole five-year story — where I started, what it cost me, what it quietly built while I wasn't looking — and a first look at what's coming next.Trips Mentioned in This EpisodeCamp Lola Whiskey (Hayward, WI): August 27–30, 2026Greece (coed): September 19–27, 2026Georgia (coed): October 2–11, 2026 2027Waitlists for Colombia, Kenya, Morocco, Egypt, Greece (+ more)Links & Resources (This Episode)Join the email list — the next chapter of Type 2 Travel lands there firstRead: "No Mud, No Lotus"Read: "Under Construction”Links & Resources (Laura)See upcoming trips: type2travel.com/group-tripsJoin the email list to get new trips before they go public: type2travel.comFollow Type 2 Travel on Instagram: @type2travelcoFollow Laura on Instagram: @lolawhiskeyFollow the podcast on Instagram: @type2travelpodcastJoin Lola Loves Travel, our Facebook community for women who travel: facebook.com/groups/lolalovestravelThanks for being here! As always, rate, review, share with a friend, and tag us if you're listening.

In this episode, I sit down with Andrea and Megan on The Cabin, a podcast all about the best of Wisconsin.This episode is all about the best of summer in Wisconsin. We're talking camping in the middle of the Wisconsin River, a floating bar on an island, pizza farms, alpacas, dark sky parks, and a cheese curd crawl in my hometown of Eau Claire, Wisconsin.If you thought Type 2 Travel only happened abroad, think again, because it's alive and well right here, and I think we do it best. And I might spend a third of my year on the other side of the world, but I'm a Wisconsin girl at heart and always long to be home.We also get into Camp Lola Whiskey, my adult summer camp happening August 27–30 in Hayward. If a pickle fountain, bloody mary bar, adult spelling bee, and brandy old fashioned happy hour sound good to you, then make sure you sign up now. There are only a few spots left, and camp closes for booking on July 31.Trips Mentioned in This EpisodeCamp Lola Whiskey (August 27-30, 2026)Greece (September 19-27, 2026)Georgia (October 2-11, 2026)Links & Resources (The Cabin)Listen: The Cabin PodcastFollow on IG: @thecabinpodLinks & Resources (Laura)See upcoming trips: type2travel.com/group-tripsJoin the email list to get new trips before they go public: type2travel.comFollow Type 2 Travel on Instagram: @type2travelcoFollow Laura on Instagram: @lolawhiskeyFollow the podcast on Instagram: @type2travelpodcastJoin Lola Loves Travel, our Facebook community for women who travel: facebook.com/groups/lolalovestravelThanks for being here! As always, rate, review, share with a friend, and tag us if you're listening.

Nikki turned 40 last September, and she hadn't traveled internationally in almost half that time. So she decided to give herself the gift of getting back out there by joining a group trip to Cuba with her best friend of 28 years and one of my frequent travelers, Danielle.In this episode, we talk about being intentional with how you define yourself when the old labels start falling away, the fear of letting more time pass versus the fear of finally taking the plunge, and what it means to feel financially, emotionally, and physically ready in a way you weren't in earlier seasons of life.And since this is Cuba, the conversation is also about choosing gratitude in hard places, singing at the top of your lungs in the back of a classic car, and the kind of female friendship that lifts you up instead of competing with you.If you've ever stuck a trip on the back burner because life kept getting in the way, this one's for you.Trips Mentioned in This EpisodeCamp Lola Whiskey (August 27-30, 2026)Greece (September 19-27, 2026)Links & Resources (Danielle + Nikki)Danielle's Instagram: @yeahdaniNikki's Instagram: @w0witsnikki Links & Resources (Laura)See upcoming trips: type2travel.com/group-tripsJoin the email list to get new trips before they go public: type2travel.comFollow Type 2 Travel on Instagram: @type2travelcoFollow Laura on Instagram: @lolawhiskeyFollow the podcast on Instagram: @type2travelpodcastJoin Lola Loves Travel, our Facebook community for women who travel: facebook.com/groups/lolalovestravelThanks for being here! As always, rate, review, share with a friend, and tag us if you're listening.

Most of us have grabbed a bottle of SPF 50 at the airport without reading a single ingredient. And most of us have stood at the edge of the water thinking we're doing the right thing because the label says "reef safe." Christina Kuklinski would like a word.She quit a career that was killing her, spent two years diving the world's most protected reef systems, watched her hair break off from daily saltwater exposure, and couldn't find a single product that solved the problem without making the reef situation worse. So she built one.Kook is an ocean-first beauty brand that's B Corp certified and donates 5% of revenue to mangrove restoration. But most importantly, the products actual work and don't damage the ocean's fragile ecosystem.In this episode, Christina pulls back the curtain on what "clean beauty" and "reef safe" really mean, how your sunscreen is affecting the ocean (even on days you never get in the water), and what self-care actually looks like when you're sweaty, sun-baked, and bouncing between time zones.She also gets real about burnout, the identity crisis that comes with walking away from a high-earning career, and why the best business ideas usually come from the thing that's been driving you absolutely crazy.And if you're coming to Camp Lola Whiskey this summer, you'll get to try Kook firsthand — Christina is one of our amazing sponsors and will have samples at camp.If you can't wait until camp, all listeners can use code TYPE2TRAVEL20 for 20% off your first order at gotkook.com.Trips Mentioned in This EpisodeCamp Lola Whiskey (August 27-30, 2026)Greece (September 19-27, 2026)Links & Resources (Christina)Website: gotkook.comInstagram: @got.kookLinks & Resources (Laura)See upcoming trips: type2travel.com/group-tripsJoin the email list to get new trips before they go public: type2travel.comFollow Type 2 Travel on Instagram: @type2travelcoFollow Laura on Instagram: @lolawhiskeyFollow the podcast on Instagram: @type2travelpodcastJoin Lola Loves Travel, our Facebook community for women who travel: facebook.com/groups/lolalovestravelThanks for being here! As always, rate, review, share with a friend, and tag us if you're listening.

Katie Holden didn't come to the points and miles game because she wanted a hobby. She came because she needed to make travel work on a real budget. Like funding a nine-month family gap year on $50 a day budget. Once she did, she realized there wasn't a lot of good information out there for people in her exact situation. So she built it herself.Katie is the founder of Katie's Travel Tricks, and her philosophy is simple: you shouldn't have to pay money to learn how to save money. Whether you're brand new to this or you've been at it for years, her approach is the kind of refreshingly practical advice that actually sticks.In this episode, we get into the mistakes most beginners make, the Chase 5/24 rule, a card combo she swears by that most people have never heard of, and why she won't let anyone on her team use the word "devaluation."If points and miles have ever felt overcomplicated or just not designed for the way you actually travel, this is the conversation you've been waiting for.Links & Resources (Katie)Website: katiestraveltricks.com Podcast: Points for Normal PeopleInstagram: @katiestraveltricksLinks & Resources (Laura)See upcoming trips: type2travel.com/group-tripsJoin the email list to get new trips before they go public: type2travel.comFollow Type 2 Travel on Instagram: @type2travelcoFollow Laura on Instagram: @lolawhiskeyFollow the podcast on Instagram: @type2travelpodcastJoin Lola Loves Travel, our Facebook community for women who travel: facebook.com/groups/lolalovestravelThanks for being here! As always, rate, review, share with a friend, and tag us if you're listening.

There are friends who come to your city and let you take them wherever, and then there are friends who have a whole system. Alec Johnson is that guy, and New York City is his city.In this episode, we cover the Instagram problem that broke the "trust the line" rule, why Times Square restaurants don't have to even try to be good, the tourist spots that are actually worth it (I was wrong for years--Katz's Deli is not overrated), and how eating exceptional food in one place ruins you for the mediocre version everywhere else.Plus: the epic Portland vegan strip club story. You'll understand when you get there.Listen to hear all of Alec's food wisdom, his takes on the best neighborhoods, and why our recent group trip to Georgia changed his mind about group travel forever.Trips mentioned:Georgia - October 2 - 11, 2026 (coed)Links & Resources (Alec)He doesn't have social media. He doesn't do podcasts. Getting him on this one was a minor miracle.Links & Resources (Laura)See upcoming trips: type2travel.com/group-tripsJoin the email list to get new trips before they go public: type2travel.comFollow Type 2 Travel on Instagram: @type2travelcoFollow Laura on Instagram: @lolawhiskeyFollow the podcast on Instagram: @type2travelpodcastJoin Lola Loves Travel, our Facebook community for women who travel: facebook.com/groups/lolalovestravelThanks for being here! As always, rate, review, share with a friend, and tag us if you're listening.

What happens when you stop avoiding discomfort and start chasing it? Tom Williams — founder of Desert Island Survival and winner of Alone UK Season 1 — has built his entire life around that question. In this episode, Tom shares how a childhood defined by failure, bullying, and being written off by his own teacher led to one of the most remarkable reinvention stories you'll hear.We talk about his pivot moment mapping coral reefs in Honduras, walking 370 miles to the North Pole, and what 35 days alone in the Canadian wilderness taught him about happiness, health, and what human beings are actually built for. Tom came out of that experience physically transformed, mentally reset, and genuinely convinced that modern life has us living at a fraction of our actual capacity — and that the antidote is simpler than we think.We also dig into Desert Island Survival — what really happens on one of his expeditions, who goes, and why the most transformative breakthroughs tend to happen in the moments that scared you a little when you first signed up.If you've ever needed a push to book something that makes you slightly nervous, this episode is it.Links & Resources (Tom)Learn more about Tom: https://tomwilliams.tv/Use code DIS150 for £150 off a Desert Island Survival Expedition: desertislandsurvival.comInstagram: @tomwilliamsaloneLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/desertislandtom/Links & Resources (Laura)Links & Resources (Laura)See upcoming trips: type2travel.com/group-tripsJoin the email list to get new trips before they go public: type2travel.comFollow Type 2 Travel on Instagram: @type2travelcoFollow Laura on Instagram: @lolawhiskeyFollow the podcast on Instagram: @type2travelpodcastJoin Lola Loves Travel, our Facebook community for women who travel: facebook.com/groups/lolalovestravelThanks for being here! As always, rate, review, share with a friend, and tag us if you're listening.

Sahara Rose DeVore is someone I've been connected to in the travel industry for over four years, but we've never met in person.She's a fellow Wisconsinite, founder of the Travel Coach Network, and the creator of the world's first ICF-accredited certification program for travel coaches. She's traveled solo to 84 countries--and not from privilege, but from sheer determination, working five jobs while finishing college to save enough for that first one-way ticket. Her story is a reminder that the desire to travel will find a way.But this episode isn't really about the countries. It's about the why behind the wanderlust. Sahara has spent years studying the psychology of why we travel, and the conversation we had honestly changed how I think about the trips I plan, the travelers I lead, and my own deeply personal reasons for doing this work.We're talking about what we're really searching for when we book a flight, how travel builds confidence in ways nothing else can, what to do with post-travel depression when you land back in reality, the difference between using travel as escape versus using it as a tool for transformation, and how to actually bring those hard-won lessons home with you instead of losing them in the laundry pile.Sahara also shares something she rarely talks about publicly — the real, raw reason she started traveling in the first place.Links & Resources (Sahara)Learn more about Sahara: https://thetravelcoachnetwork.com/Follow Sahara on socials: @saharaRosethetravelcoach and @thetravelcoachnetworkLinks & Resources (Laura)See upcoming trips: type2travel.com/group-tripsJoin the email list to get new trips before they go public: type2travel.comFollow Type 2 Travel on Instagram: @type2travelcoFollow Laura on Instagram: @lolawhiskeyFollow the podcast on Instagram: @type2travelpodcastJoin Lola Loves Travel, our Facebook community for women who travel: facebook.com/groups/lolalovestravelThanks for being here! As always, rate, review, share with a friend, and tag us if you're listening.

What happens when everything goes catastrophically wrong while traveling abroad? You get the best stories of your life.In this episode, I sit down with Jenna Farber, a travel industry professional who represents luxury safari operators across Africa, but whose real education in travel came from years of beautifully messy cultural exchange programs in Latin America. From living with host families in the Dominican Republic and Ecuador to navigating language barriers that led to truly catastrophic miscommunications, Jenna shares the kind of vulnerable, hilarious travel disasters that most people are too embarrassed to talk about.If you've ever been too afraid to share your embarrassing travel stories, or if you've been playing it safe because you're terrified of looking stupid abroad, this episode is your permission slip to embrace the chaos and laugh at yourself. Because the truth is, your most mortifying moments are often the ones that shape you most as a traveler and give you the best dinner party stories for the rest of your life.Links & Resources (Jenna)Find Jenna on InstagramFind Jenna on FacebookLinks & Resources (Laura)See upcoming trips: type2travel.com/group-tripsJoin the email list to get new trips before they go public: type2travel.comFollow Type 2 Travel on Instagram: @type2travelcoFollow Laura on Instagram: @lolawhiskeyFollow the podcast on Instagram: @type2travelpodcastJoin Lola Loves Travel, our Facebook community for women who travel: facebook.com/groups/lolalovestravelThanks for being here! As always, rate, review, share with a friend, and tag us if you're listening.

Emmanuel LaRoche is the kind of person who makes you look at a vanilla bean, a jar of honey, or a tincan of caviar completely differently. He's a flavor industry insider, a podcaster, and now a two-time author, and this conversation genuinely changed how I think about the ingredients in my kitchen.We talk about Emmanuel's fascinating journey from growing up in France, learning to cook quiche Lorraine from his mom, landing in the flavor and fragrance industry, and going to Madagascar for vanilla but staying for so much more.Emmanuel's second book, A Taste of Madagascar, is part travel log, part ingredient deep-dive, and part love letter to the farmers, beekeepers, and entrepreneurs who rarely get credit for the extraordinary things we eat every day. He also shares what responsible food travel actually looks like, both in your own grocery store and halfway around the world, and why understanding where ingredients come from can genuinely change lives, including your own.Trips Mentioned in This Episode:Mexico City Foodie Tour WaitlistJapan WaitlistLinks & Resources (Emmanuel)Learn more: flavorsunknown.comPodcast: Flavors UnknownBook: A Taste of Madagascar Conversations Behind the Kitchen DoorInstagram/Facebook/TikTok: @flavorsunknownLinkedIn: Emmanuel LaRocheLinks & Resources (Laura)See upcoming trips: type2travel.com/group-tripsJoin the email list to get new trips before they go public: type2travel.comFollow Type 2 Travel on Instagram: @type2travelcoFollow Laura on Instagram: @lolawhiskeyFollow the podcast on Instagram: @type2travelpodcastJoin Lola Loves Travel, our Facebook community for women who travel: facebook.com/groups/lolalovestravelThanks for being here! As always, rate, review, share with a friend, and tag us if you're listening.