3547: Telus Digital on the Human Role in the Final Mile of AI Safety and Security

Today's episode is a conversation with Bret Kinsella, recorded while he was in Las Vegas for CES and preparing to step onto the AI stage. Bret brings a rare combination of long-term perspective and hands-on experience. As General Manager of Fuel iX at TELUS Digital, he operates generative AI systems at a scale most enterprises never see, processing trillions of tokens and delivering measurable business outcomes for global organizations. That vantage point gives him a clear view of both the promise of generative AI and the uncomfortable truths many teams are still avoiding. Together, we unpack why generative AI breaks so many of the assumptions security teams have relied on for decades. Bret explains why these systems are probabilistic rather than deterministic, and how that single shift creates what he calls an unbounded attack surface. Users are no longer limited to predefined buttons or workflows, and outputs are no longer constrained to a fixed database. The same prompt can succeed or fail depending on subtle changes, which makes single-pass testing and checkbox compliance dangerously misleading. If you have ever wondered why an AI system feels safe one day and unpredictable the next, this conversation offers a grounded explanation. We also explore why focusing on the model alone misses the real risk. Bret makes a strong case that the model is only one part of a much larger system shaped by system prompts, connected data sources, tools, and guardrails. Change any one of those elements and behavior shifts. This is why automated, continuous red teaming has become unavoidable. Bret shares how Telus Digital's Fortify AI attack model uncovered hundreds of vulnerabilities in hours, far beyond what human teams could realistically surface on their own. Yet automation is not the end of the story. The final decisions still depend on people who understand context, trade-offs, and business impact. Throughout the discussion, we return to a simple but uncomfortable idea. AI safety is not something you bolt on after deployment. It demands a different mindset, broader testing, repeated validation, and ongoing human judgment. For leaders moving from experimentation to real-world deployment, this episode is a clear-eyed look at what responsible progress actually requires. So, as more organizations rush to deploy agents and autonomous systems in 2026, are we truly prepared for software that learns, adapts, and occasionally surprises us, and what does that mean for how you test and trust AI inside your own business? Useful Links Connect with Bret Kinsella Telus Digital Website Fuel iX Thanks to our sponsors, Alcor, for supporting the show.

What does it actually take to move beyond AI pilots and turn enterprise ambition into real productivity gains? That question sat at the center of my conversation with Olivia Nottebohm, Chief Operating Officer at Box, and it is one that every boardroom seems to be wrestling with right now. AI conversations have matured quickly. The early excitement has given way to harder questions about return, trust, and what changes when software stops assisting work and starts acting inside it. Olivia brings a rare vantage point to that discussion, shaped by leadership roles at Google, Dropbox, Notion, and now Box, where she oversees global go to market, customer success, and partnerships at a time when AI is becoming embedded in everyday operations. We talked about why early adopters are already seeing productivity lifts of around thirty seven percent, while others remain stuck in experimentation. The difference, as Olivia explains, is rarely the model itself. Strategy matters more. Teams that treat AI as a chance to rethink how work flows through the organization are pulling away from those that simply layer automation on top of broken processes. This is where unstructured content, often described as dark data, becomes a competitive asset rather than a liability. When that information is curated, permissioned, and ready for agents to use, entire workflows start to look very different. A large part of our discussion focused on AI agents and why 2026 is shaping up to be the year they move from novelty to necessity. Agents are already joining the workforce, taking on tasks that used to require multiple handoffs between teams. That shift brings speed and autonomy, but it also raises new questions about trust.  Olivia shared why governance has become one of the biggest blind spots in enterprise AI, especially when agents act independently or interact across platforms. Her perspective was clear. Without strong security, permissioning, and oversight, the risks grow faster than the rewards. We also explored why companies using a mix of models and agents tend to see stronger returns, and how Box approaches this with a neutral, customer choice driven philosophy while maintaining consistent governance. From the five stages of enterprise AI maturity to the idea of a future agent manager role, this conversation offers a grounded look at what AI at scale actually demands from leadership, culture, and operating models. So as investment accelerates and AI becomes part of the fabric of work, the real question is this. Are organizations ready to redesign how they operate around agents, data, and trust, or will they keep experimenting while others pull ahead, and what do you think separates the two?   Useful Links Connect with Olivia Nottebohm The State of AI in the Enterprise Report Becoming an AI-First Company Follow on LinkedIn Thanks to our sponsors, Alcor, for supporting the show.

What happens when the systems we rely on every day start producing more signals than humans can realistically process, and how do IT leaders decide what actually matters anymore? In this episode of Tech Talks Daily, I sit down with Garth Fort, Chief Product Officer at LogicMonitor, to unpack why traditional monitoring models are reaching their limits and why AI native observability is starting to feel less like a future idea and more like a present day requirement. Modern enterprise IT now spans legacy data centers, multiple public clouds, and thousands of services layered on top. That complexity has quietly broken many of the tools teams still depend on, leaving operators buried under alerts rather than empowered by insight. Garth brings a rare perspective shaped by senior roles at Microsoft, AWS, and Splunk, along with firsthand experience running observability at hyperscale. We talk about how alert fatigue has become one of the biggest hidden drains on IT teams, including real world examples where organizations were dealing with tens of thousands of alerts every week and still missing the root cause. This is where LogicMonitor's AI agent, Edwin AI, enters the picture, not as a replacement for human judgment, but as a way to correlate noise into something usable and give operators their time and confidence back. A big part of our conversation centers on trust. AI agents behave very differently from deterministic automation, and that difference matters when systems are responsible for critical services like healthcare supply chains, airline operations, or global hospitality platforms. Garth explains why governance, auditability, and role based controls will decide how quickly enterprises allow AI agents to move from advisory roles into more autonomous ones. We also explore why experimentation with AI has become one of the lowest risk moves leaders can make right now, and why the teams who treat learning as a daily habit tend to outperform the rest. We finish by zooming out to the bigger picture, where observability stops being a technical function and starts becoming a way to understand business health itself. From mapping infrastructure to real customer experiences, to reshaping how IT budgets are justified in boardrooms, this conversation offers a grounded look at where enterprise operations are heading next. So, as AI agents become more embedded in the systems that run our businesses, how comfortable are you with handing them the keys, and what would it take for you to truly trust them? Useful Links Connect with Garth Fort Learn more about LogicMonitor Check out the Logic Monitor blog Follow on LinkedIn, X, Facebook, and YouTube. Alcor is the Sponsor of Tech Talks Network

Are we asking ourselves an honest question about who really owns automation inside a business anymore? In my conversation with Darin Patterson, Vice President of Market Strategy at Make, we explore what happens when speed becomes the default requirement, but visibility and structure fail to keep up.  Make has become one of the breakout platforms for teams that want to build automated workflows without writing code, and now, with AI agents joining the mix, the stakes feel even higher. Darin talks candidly about the tension between empowerment and chaos, especially in organizations that embraced no-code tools fast and early, only to discover that automation can quietly turn into sprawl if left unchecked. What struck me most is how strongly Darin challenges the idea that documentation alone can save modern IT teams. He argues that traditional monitoring tools and workflow documentation are breaking down under the weight of constant iteration. That's where Make Grid comes in. Make Grid creates an auto-generated, real-time visual map of a company's automation ecosystem, something Darin describes as a turning point for governance. He explains why this matters now, not later. As companies deploy AI into processes that used to be owned by specialists, Grid provides a shared lens for understanding what is running, who built it, and where dependencies exist. It's an answer to a problem many IT leaders are reluctant to admit publicly, that automation systems often grow faster than oversight systems ever could. Darin also offers a refreshingly grounded take on the psychology of ambitious teams. He talks about the need to prevent "no-code anarchy," a phrase I've heard whispered at conferences, but rarely unpacked with clarity. His view is simple, trust teams to build, but give them shared maps, guardrails, and governance that don't slow them down. That balance between autonomy and oversight becomes even more meaningful when AI is introduced into workflows that touch security, IT performance, and cross-team accountability. Make Grid attempts to solve that balance by showing the automation architecture visually, even when internal documentation has gone stale. So here's the question I want to leave you with, if AI agents can now design, connect, and deploy workflows across an organization, what role will visual governance play in keeping businesses both fast and accountable? And what does good oversight look like when humans are no longer the only builders in the system? Useful Links Learn more about Make Connect with Darin Patterson Thanks to our sponsors, Alcor, for supporting the show.

Was 2025 the year the games industry finally stopped talking about direct-to-consumer and started treating it as the default way to do business? In this episode of Tech Talks Daily, I'm joined by Chris Hewish, President at Xsolla, for a wide-ranging conversation about how regulation, platform pressure, and shifting player expectations have pushed D2C from the margins into the mainstream. As court rulings, the Digital Markets Act, and high-profile battles like Epic versus Apple continue to reshape the industry, developers are gaining more leverage, but also more responsibility, over how they distribute, monetize, and support their games. Chris breaks down why D2C is no longer just about avoiding app store fees. It is about owning player relationships, controlling data, and building sustainable businesses in a more consolidated market. We explore how tools like Xsolla's Unity SDK are lowering the barrier for studios to sell directly across mobile, PC, and the web, while handling the operational complexity that often scares teams away from global payments, compliance, and fraud management. We also dig into what is changing inside live service games. From offer walls that help monetize the vast majority of players who never spend, to LiveOps tools that simplify campaigns and retention strategies, Chris shares real examples of how studios are seeing meaningful lifts in revenue and engagement. The conversation moves beyond technology into mindset, especially for indie and mid-sized teams learning that treating a game as a long-term business needs to start far earlier than launch day. Here in 2026, we talk about account-centric economies, hybrid monetization models running in parallel, and the growing role of community-driven commerce inspired by platforms like Roblox and Fortnite. There is optimism in these shifts, but also understandable anxiety as studios adjust to managing more of the stack themselves. Chris offers a grounded perspective on how that balance is likely to play out. So if games are becoming hobbies, platforms are opening up, and developers finally have the tools to meet players wherever they are, what does the next phase of direct-to-consumer really look like, and are studios ready to fully own that relationship? Useful Links Connect with Chris Hewish on LinkedIn Learn more about Xsolla Follow on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Facebook Thanks to our sponsors, Alcor, for supporting the show.

In this episode of Tech Talks Daily, I'm joined by Kiren Sekar, Chief Product Officer at Samsara, to unpack how AI is finally showing up where it matters most, in the frontline operations that keep the global economy moving. From logistics and construction to manufacturing and field services, these industries represent a huge share of global GDP, yet for years they have been left behind by modern software. Kiren explains why that gap existed, and why the timing is finally right to close it. We talk about Samsara's full-stack approach that blends hardware, software, and AI to turn trillions of real-world data points into decisions people can actually act on. Kiren shares how customers are using this intelligence to prevent accidents, cut fuel waste, digitize paper-based workflows, and scale expert judgment across thousands of vehicles and job sites. The conversation goes deep into real examples, including how large enterprises like Home Depot have dramatically reduced accident rates and improved asset utilization by making safety and efficiency part of everyday operations rather than afterthoughts. A big part of our discussion focuses on trust. When AI enters physical operations, concerns around monitoring and surveillance surface quickly. Kiren walks through how adoption succeeds only when technology is introduced with care, transparency, and a clear focus on protecting workers. From proving driver innocence during incidents to rewarding positive behavior and using AI as a virtual safety coach, we explore why change management matters just as much as the technology itself. We also look at the limits of automation and why human judgment still plays a central role. Kiren explains how Samsara's AI acts as a force multiplier for experienced frontline experts, capturing their hard-won knowledge and scaling it across an entire workforce rather than trying to replace it. As AI moves from pilots into daily decision-making at scale, this episode offers a grounded view of what responsible, high-impact deployment actually looks like. As AI continues to reshape frontline work, making jobs safer, easier, and more engaging, how should product leaders balance innovation with responsibility when their systems start influencing real-world safety and productivity every single day? Useful Links Connect with Kiren Sekar Learn more about Samsara Tech Talks Daily is Sponsored by Denodo

What if airlines stopped thinking in terms of seats and schedules and started designing for the entire journey instead? In this episode of Tech Talks Daily, I'm joined by Somit Goyal, CEO of IBS Software, to talk about how travel technology is being rebuilt at its foundations. Since we last spoke, AI has moved from experimentation into everyday operations, and that shift is forcing airlines to rethink everything from retailing and loyalty to disruption management and customer trust. Somit shares why AI can no longer sit on the edge of systems as a feature, and why it now has to be embedded directly into how decisions are made across the business. We discuss the growing gap between legacy airline technology and rapidly rising traveler expectations, and why this tension has become a defining moment for the industry. For Somit, travel tech is no longer back office infrastructure. It is becoming the operating system for customer experience and revenue. That shift changes how airlines think about retailing, moving away from selling flights toward curating outcomes across a multi day journey that includes partners, servicing, and real time operational awareness. The conversation also explores why agility now matters more than scale, and how airlines are approaching this transformation without breaking what already works. A major part of this episode focuses on IBS Software's deep co-innovation partnership with Amazon Web Services. Somit explains why this is far more than a cloud hosting arrangement, covering joint R&D, shared roadmaps, and AI labs designed to help airlines build modern retailing capabilities faster. We also unpack what "AI first" really means in practice, how intelligence is reshaping offer creation, pricing, order management, and disruption handling, and why responsible AI must be treated as a product rather than a legal safeguard. We also spend time on loyalty, one of the industry's most stubborn challenges. Somit outlines why converging reservations and loyalty systems is such a powerful unlock, how it enables real time personalization instead of generic segmentation, and why loyalty should evolve from a points ledger into an experience engine that delivers value before, during, and after a trip. As airlines race toward 2026, the big question is no longer whether transformation will happen, but who will move with enough clarity and trust to earn long-term loyalty. In a world where AI knows more about travelers than ever before, how do airlines use that intelligence to create better outcomes without crossing the line, and are they ready to rethink the journey from end to end? Useful Links Connect with Somit Goyal Learn more about IBS Software Tech Talks Daily is Sponsored by Denodo  

What happens when a podcast stops being something you listen to and becomes something you physically show up for? In this episode of Tech Talks Daily, I wanted to explore a different kind of tech story, one rooted in community, endurance, and real human connection. I was joined by Sam Huntington, a Business Development Officer at Wells Fargo, who has quietly built something special at the intersection of technology, entrepreneurship, and cycling through his podcast and community project, Hill Climbers. Sam's story starts far from a studio. It begins on a bike, moving through Philadelphia, Los Angeles, and eventually Austin, where chance conversations on group rides turned into friendships, business relationships, and eventually a podcast. We talk about why endurance sports and startups share the same mental terrain, the moments when you want to quit, and how those moments often define the outcome. Sam explains how Hill Climbers evolved from recorded conversations into weekly rides, live podcast tapings, and in person events that bring founders, investors, and operators together without name badges or pitch decks. We also dig into what makes Austin such a magnetic place for founders right now, and why community building outside Silicon Valley feels different when it is built around shared effort rather than curated networks. Sam shares lessons learned from taking a podcast offline, including the early weeks when hardly anyone showed up, the temptation to stop, and the persistence required to build momentum. There is a refreshing honesty in how he describes growing something slowly, resisting shortcuts, and letting trust compound over time. This conversation is also a reminder that meaningful networks are rarely built through algorithms. They are built through shared experiences, discomfort, friendly competition, and showing up consistently when no one is watching. Whether you are a founder, an investor, or someone trying to build a community of your own, there is something grounding in hearing how relationships form when work is not the opening line. As more of our professional lives move online, are we losing the spaces where real connection happens, and what would it look like for you to build community around a shared passion rather than a job title? Userful Links Connect with Sam Huntington Hill Climbers Website Instagram Tech Talks Daily is Sponsored by Denodo

What happens to patient care when hospital systems suddenly go dark and clinicians are forced back to pen and paper in the middle of a crisis? In this episode of the Tech Talks Daily Podcast, I speak with Chao Cheng-Shorland, Co-founder and CEO of ShelterZoom, about a problem that many healthcare leaders still underestimate until it is too late. As ransomware attacks, cloud outages, and system failures become more frequent, electronic health record downtime has shifted from a rare incident to a recurring operational risk with real consequences for patient safety, staff wellbeing, and hospital finances. Chao explains why traditional disaster recovery plans fall short in live clinical environments and why returning to paper workflows is no longer viable for modern healthcare teams. We discuss how EHR downtime can stretch from hours into weeks, how reimbursement delays and cash flow pressure compound the damage, and why younger clinicians are often unprepared for manual processes they were never trained to use. The conversation also explores the mindset shift now taking place among CIOs and CISOs, as resilience moves from a compliance checkbox to a survival requirement. At the heart of the discussion is ShelterZoom's SpareTire platform and the thinking behind treating uninterrupted access to clinical data as a baseline rather than a backup. Chao shares how the idea emerged directly from hospital conversations, why an external, always-available system is essential during cyber incidents, and how ShelterZoom's tokenization roots shaped a design focused on security without disruption. We also look at how rising AI adoption is changing the threat landscape and why many healthcare organizations are reordering priorities to secure continuity before rolling out new AI initiatives. As we look toward 2026, this episode offers a grounded view of how healthcare organizations must rethink downtime tolerance, data governance, and operational readiness in a world where digital outages can quickly become clinical emergencies. If downtime is now inevitable rather than hypothetical, what does real resilience look like for hospitals, and are healthcare leaders moving fast enough to protect patients when systems fail? Useful Links Connect with Chao Cheng-Shorland Learn more about ShelterZoom Tech Talks Daily is Sponsored by Denodo

Is your website still the front door to your business, or has AI already quietly changed where customers first meet your brand? In this episode of the Tech Talks Daily Podcast, I sit down with Dominik Angerer, Co-founder and CEO of Storyblok, to unpack how content, search, and discovery are shifting in an AI-first world. As search behavior moves away from blue links toward direct answers inside tools like ChatGPT and Google summaries, Dominik explains why many businesses are seeing traffic decline even while signups and conversions continue to grow. We explore how AI is reshaping the role of content management systems, from automation and orchestration to personalization at scale. Dominik shares why consistency now matters more than volume, how outdated content can actively harm brand visibility inside AI answers, and why the technical foundations built for SEO still play a major role as generative search takes hold. This conversation also dives into headless CMS architecture, why separating content from presentation has become even more valuable, and how structured, well maintained content gives AI systems something reliable to work with. Dominik also introduces the idea of joyful content, a belief that better tools lead to better work and ultimately better experiences for audiences. From AI-powered support workflows to personalized retail and loyalty experiences, he shares real examples of how forward-looking teams are already using content as an active system rather than a static archive. As businesses look toward 2026 and rethink how they show up across websites, apps, agents, and answer engines, this episode offers a grounded look at what needs to change and where to start. As AI becomes the place people go for answers rather than search results, how are you rethinking your content strategy, and what will you do differently after hearing this conversation? Connect with Dominik Angerer Learn more Storyblok Tech Talks Daily is Sponsored by Denodo