The Mark Divine Show

What do you do when hope feels completely out of reach?In this episode of The Mark Divine Show, Mark sits down with Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe, award-winning resilience researcher, educator, and known globally as The Hope Scientist, to unpack what hope really is—and why it’s not just wishful thinking.Dr. Robyne shares her remarkable story of dropping out of high school, navigating addiction, surviving a near-fatal car accident, and rebuilding her life from the ground up. Together, they explore why so many high performers feel burned out, disconnected, and stuck—even when they “have it all”—and how hope can be trained as a science-backed strategy for mental fitness, leadership, and long-term wellbeing.You’ll learn:- Why traditional motivation fails when identity doesn’t change- The difference between optimism and real hope- How stress, burnout, and hyper-arousal shut down clarity- Why belonging is the missing link in performance and fulfillment- How to build daily systems that rewire the brain for resilience- What to do when life forces a complete resetThis conversation is for leaders, parents, entrepreneurs, and anyone navigating uncertainty who wants to reclaim agency, purpose, and calm—without bypassing reality.Hope isn’t passive. It’s a practice.Join the Community & Go DeeperSubscribe to the NewsletterGet weekly insights on leadership, resilience, mental fitness, and purpose-driven living.👉 Sign up here: www.markdivine.com/newsletterJoin the Unbeatable Tribe CommunityConnect with leaders and high performers committed to training their minds, leading with courage, and building lives of meaning.👉 Join the community here: https://join.unbeatablemind.com/join-community#Hope #MentalFitness #Resilience #LeadershipDevelopment #BurnoutRecovery #PersonalGrowth #Belonging #StressManagement #Neuroscience #TheMarkDivineShow #MarkDivine #DrRobyneHanleyDafoe #IHopeSoSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Stress is preventing learning, leadership, and healing—and most people don’t know why.In this episode of The Mark Divine Show, Dr. Jeannie Iberlin—transformational coach, former school administrator, and author of The Unbelievable Power of Feelings—explains why mindfulness isn’t about escaping emotions, but learning how to feel without being overwhelmed.You’ll learn:- Why anxiety shuts down learning and decision-making- The difference between “thinking about feelings” vs actually feeling them- How short, consistent mindfulness practices rewire the nervous system- Why meditation doesn’t require bliss, silence, or perfection- How teachers, leaders, parents, and children can regulate emotions daily - The overlooked connection between trauma, stress, and emotional suppression- What “waking up” and “waking down” really means for personal growthThis conversation is practical, grounded, and deeply human—offering tools you can use immediately, whether you’re leading a classroom, a team, or your own inner work.📬 Join the NewsletterIf this conversation resonated, subscribe to the Mark Divine Newsletter for weekly insights on leadership, resilience, mental fitness, and spiritual growth.👉 Sign up here: https://www.markdivine.com🤝 Join the Unbeatable CommunityContinue the conversation inside our private Unbeatable community—connect with leaders committed to courage, self-mastery, and conscious living.👉 Join here: https://join.unbeatablemind.com/join-community#Mindfulness #EmotionalHealing #MentalFitness #TraumaRecovery #LeadershipDevelopment #MeditationPractice #NervousSystemRegulation #ConsciousLeadership #EmotionalIntelligence #markdivine #markdivineshow #UnbeatableMind #JeanieIberlinSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

What happens when high performers ignore their body, suppress vulnerability, and power through for too long?In this episode of The Mark Divine Show, entrepreneur and author Melissa Gonzalez shares the pivotal moment that forced her to rethink leadership, success, and wellbeing. After years on Wall Street and building fast-growing companies, her body finally demanded attention—triggering a profound shift in how she leads, lives, and listens.This conversation explores:-Why high achievers ignore early warning signs until crisis hits-The hidden cost of “powering through” in leadership and life-How intuition and vulnerability become leadership advantages—not liabilities-Why slowing down actually increases clarity, impact, and performance-How purpose isn’t something you do—but something you embodyMelissa breaks down the lessons behind her book The Purpose Pivot, revealing how leaders—especially women—can build sustainable success without sacrificing their health, family, or identity.If you’re leading at a high level but feeling disconnected, depleted, or stuck in constant output mode, this episode will challenge how you define strength—and show you a better way forward.Join the Community & Go Deeper📩 Join the NewsletterGet weekly insights on leadership, mental fitness, intuition, and human performance.👉 Sign up here: https://markdivine.com/newsletter🤝 Join the Unbeatable Mind CommunityTrain alongside leaders committed to growth, resilience, and purpose-driven leadership.👉 Join here: https://join.unbeatablemind.com/join-communityConnect & Explore MoreLearn more about Mark’s leadership programs: https://markdivine.com/Follow Mark on Instagram & LinkedIn for daily leadership insights: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/markdivineofficialLinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdivinePick up The Purpose Pivot by Melissa Gonzalez: https://www.melissagonzalez.comTimestamps: 00:00 Introduction to Leadership and Women in Leadership01:17 Guest Introduction: Melissa Gonzalez02:01 Melissa's Career Journey and First Pivot03:37 Starting the Lions Group and Design Path04:14 Acquisition by MG2 and Colliers06:27 Personal Health Crisis and Realizations11:16 The Importance of Vulnerability19:33 Sharing Stories and Creating Safe Spaces22:22 Facing Doubts and Embracing Vulnerability24:03 Understanding and Teaching Intuition25:53 The Importance of Presence and Mindfulness31:36 Balancing Productivity and Well-being42:27 Discovering and Living Your Purpose47:01 Conclusion and Final Thoughts#LeadershipDevelopment #WomenInLeadership #PurposeDrivenLeadership #IntuitionInBusiness #BurnoutRecovery #MentalFitness #HighPerformance #VUCALeadership #HumanCenteredLeadership #markdivine #unbeatablemind #themarkdivineshow #melissagonzaleSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Most people think confidence comes from success.In reality, confidence comes from self-trust—and most people never learn how to build it.In this episode of The Mark Divine Show, Mark sits down with Shadé Zahrai, award-winning leadership strategist, Harvard-trained researcher, and author of Big Trust.Together, they unpack why:Self-doubt is not the enemy—it’s a signal- Psychological safety fails when people don’t trust themselves- Waiting to “feel confident” keeps people stuck- Inner critics sabotage leadership, performance, and relationships- True confidence is built through trust, not validationShadé introduces her Big Trust framework, breaking down:- The four core traits that shape self-image- The internal archetypes that quietly run your behavior- How to turn doubt into data instead of self-sabotage- Why self-trust must come before action, not after- Practical tools to quiet the inner critic and lead with clarityThis conversation bridges neuroscience, leadership psychology, and lived experience to help you stop outsourcing your worth—and start trusting yourself under pressure.If you’ve ever felt capable but hesitant, accomplished but unsure, or driven but internally conflicted—this episode will give you language, structure, and tools to change that.🔔 Go Deeper📩 Join Mark’s Newsletter Weekly insights on leadership, mental toughness, self-mastery, and purpose-driven performance. 👉markdivine.com/newsletter🏛 Join the Unbeatable Tribe on Skool Train alongside leaders committed to clarity, discipline, and building real inner strength. 👉 skool.com/unbeatable-mastery-tribeShade Links:Website: https://www.shadezahrai.com/Book: https://www.shadezahrai.com/bigtrustLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shadezahrai/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Dr.ShadeZahraiInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/shadezahrai/#SelfTrust #ConfidenceBuilding #LeadershipDevelopment #MentalFitness #PersonalGrowth #PsychologyOfSuccess #EmotionalIntelligence #InnerCritic #HighPerformance #MarkDivine #ShadeZahrai #BigTrustTimestamps:00:00 Introduction: Journey into Big Trust00:44 Join The Unbeatable Tribe02:04 Meet Dr. Sade Rai03:20 The Path to Leadership and Performance Psychology07:11 The Role of Self-Doubt and Trust12:10 Understanding Self-Image and Core Self-Evaluations20:47 The Four Archetypes of Self-Doubt31:55 Visualizing and Reclaiming Ownership32:30 Personal Example of Managing Thoughts33:24 Understanding the Root Cause35:15 The WIRM Process38:29 The Story of the Golden Buddha42:04 Building Self-Esteem and Agency46:21 The Power of Hope and Emotional Adaptability52:19 Addressing the Victimizer Archetype56:49 Practical Steps to Develop Trust01:01:15 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Most people believe insight alone creates transformation.But insight without daily practice fades—and self-sabotage takes over.In this episode of The Mark Divine Show, Mark sits down with Shirzad Chamine, New York Times bestselling author of Positive Intelligence and one of the world’s leading experts on mental fitness, leadership performance, and mindset mastery.Shirzad shares his journey from a traumatic childhood marked by generational rage and depression to building a globally recognized framework used by Fortune 100 companies, Stanford faculty, and over two million leaders worldwide.Together, they unpack:- Why high performers sabotage themselves under pressure-The 10 mental “Saboteurs” that destroy wellbeing, performance, and relationships- Why workshops and motivation don’t create lasting change- How to rewire the brain through short, daily mental fitness practices- The difference between insight and transformation- How to shift from fear-based reactions to calm, focused, purposeful actionThis conversation bridges neuroscience, leadership, spirituality, and practical tools you can use in the middle of real life, not just in meditation or reflection.If you want more clarity, resilience, and control over how you show up under stress—this episode gives you a repeatable system to build it.🔔 Join the Unbeatable Community:🧠Take the challenge to discover the Unbeatable mindset secrets that allowed 90% of Navy SEALS and fortune 100 executives successfully build elite focus, emotional control, and disciplined execution👉 https://www.unbeatableleader.com📩 Subscribe to the Divine Inspiration NewsletterWeekly insights on leadership, mental toughness, resilience, and purposeful performance.👉 https://www.markdivine.com/newsletter🏛 Join the Unbeatable Tribe on SkoolTrain alongside leaders committed to self-mastery, discipline, and growth.👉 https://www.skool.com/unbeatable-mastery-tribeShirzad Links:Website: https://www.positiveintelligence.com/Book: https://a.co/d/evVc59lLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shirzad-chamineX: https://x.com/ShirzadPQInspirational Quote: “Most feelings of stress, anxiety, frustration, disappointment, regret, and guilt are the direct results of judging yourself, others, situations, or outcomes.” - Shirzad ChamineSubscribe to https://www.youtube.com/@markdivineofficial for more inspiring conversations on elite leadership, mental toughness, and impact.Rate and review the show to help us reach more listeners.Share your thoughts and takeaways in the comments!#MarkDivine #ShirzadChamine #PositiveIntelligence #MentalFitness #SelfSabotage #LeadershipDevelopment #PeakPerformance #MindsetTraining #Neuroplasticity #EmotionalResilience #HighPerformanceLeaders #PersonalGrowth #SageMindTimestamps:00:00 Growing Up in Tehran: A Story of Poverty and Fear00:56 The Unbeatable Leader Challenge: Transform Your Mind01:22 Welcome to the Mark Divine Show01:44 Introducing Shazad Shain: A Journey of Positive Intelligence02:29 Shazad's Early Life: Overcoming Fear and Depression06:03 The Whisper That Guided Shazad's Life08:03 The Importance of Daily Practices for Transformation09:25 The Unbeatable Tribe: Whole Person Integration13:08 Understanding Mental Fitness and Emotional Resiliency14:55 Shazad's Pivotal Moment: From Visionary Leader to Humiliation18:12 Discovering the Saboteurs: Fear-Based Voices27:16 The Universality of Saboteurs Across Cultures29:08 Identifying and Managing Your Saboteurs32:47 Identifying and Understanding Saboteurs33:14 Introducing the Sage and Its Superpowers35:15 Three-Step Process to Combat Saboteurs38:13 The WIRM Process and Rewiring the Brain41:18 Practical Techniques for Mindfulness and Self-Command46:20 Visualization Techniques for Compassion and Healing50:50 Sage Perspective and the Power of Positive Intelligence56:47 Scaling Positive Intelligence Through Technology01:02:31 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Mark Divine and Bill Murphy share insights on cultivating a warrior mindset and building mental toughness, essential for effective leadership strategies. This episode explores the principles of navy seal leadership and how to embrace resilience training. Discover how to integrate high performance habits into your daily routine for personal and professional growth, aligning with the unbeatable mind philosophy.Bill shares how his worst business year in nearly three decades forced a deeper internal reckoning—and why pursuing extreme physical challenges, including seven marathons on seven continents in seven days, became a catalyst for inner transformation rather than ego-driven achievement.This conversation goes far beyond endurance sports. Together, they explore:-Why most goals fail without a strong emotional “why”-How to build a bag of whys that sustains commitment under pressure-The mental frameworks that eliminate quitting without suppressing emotion-How breath control, mindset, micro-goals, and service to others work together-Why growth requires both individual strength and team connection-The difference between suffering that builds you and suffering that breaks youIf you’re a leader, entrepreneur, or high performer navigating uncertainty—and you’re looking for a grounded way to stay disciplined, purposeful, and resilient—this episode provides a clear, actionable path forward.Unlock your full potential and lead with courage, clarity, and purpose—join The Unbeatable Tribe and become truly unbeatable in life and leadership.Join for free for 7 days: The Unbeatable Tribe → https://www.skool.com/unbeatable-mastery-tribe/aboutThe Unbeatable Leader Challenge is back starting January 13th, this time we're making it FREE to join on this training. Kick off 2026 with a growth mindset to win the winner war, achieve front-sight focus, and build an unbeatable team in 2026.Join for free: The Unbeatable Leader Challenge → https://www.unbeatableleader.comMark uses BUBS Naturals daily for focus, recovery, and hydration—all built on a mission to honor a fallen Navy SEAL. Use code UNBEATABLE for 20% off any one time purchase or subscription at bubsnaturals.comBill Links:Website: https://thebillmurphy.com/Book: https://a.co/d/aBBiPHXInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/billmurphy_thriveLinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/williambmurphy/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thrivinginthestormMark Links: Website: https://markdivine.comThe Unbeatable Tribe: https://www.skool.com/unbeatable-mastery-tribe/aboutDivine Inspiration Newsletter: https://markdivine.com/newsletterYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@markdivineofficial/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/markdivineofficialLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdivine/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/markdivineofficial/Subscribe to https://www.youtube.com/@markdivineofficial for more inspiring conversations on leadership, growth, and impact.Rate and review the show to help us reach more listeners.Share your thoughts and takeaways in the comments!#MarkDivine #BillMurphy #Resilience #MentalToughness #LeadershipPodcast #HighPerformance #ThrivingInTheStorm #EnduranceMindset #Discipline #PurposeDrivenLife #PersonalGrowth #NeverQuit #UnbeatableMindTimestamps:00:00 Introduction: bubsnaturals.com Code: Unbeatable01:13 Guest Introduction: Bill Murphy01:38 Bill's Athletic Achievements01:50 The Great World Race: 7 Marathons on 7 Continents03:09 Mental and Physical Challenges of the Race08:03 Training and Preparation Insights12:04 Reflections on the Experience18:46 Leadership and Mental Toughness23:37 Understanding the 'Big I' and 'Little i'24:19 The Importance of Knowing Your 'Why'25:57 Heart vs. Ego in Overcoming Challenges27:05 The Power of Teamwork and Character in SEAL Training28:43 Balancing Individualism and Teamwork31:17 Transforming Through Training and Resilience37:40 Setting Goals and the FITS Model46:09 The Importance of Continuous Challenges48:58 Concluding Thoughts on Growth and DisciplineSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

What happens when life takes everything from you—and you’re forced to decide who you become next?In this deeply moving conversation, Mark Divine sits down with Cody Lakefield, co-founder of Long Ship Men and Look Health, to explore the intersection of trauma, healing, proactive health, brotherhood, and purpose.Cody shares his journey through profound personal loss, responsibility, and suffering—and how those experiences led him to build systems that help men reclaim ownership of their health, their inner lives, and their relationships with other men.From personalized biomarker testing and preventative health… to grief, PTSD, faith, and the power of men rowing together… this episode is about moving from survival to meaning.If you’re a leader, father, entrepreneur, or man navigating pressure in silence, this conversation offers a different path forward—one rooted in awareness, courage, and community.In this episode, you’ll discover:Why proactive health matters more than “sick care”How understanding biomarkers gives you agency over your bodyWhy trauma doesn’t resolve itself through willpower aloneThe danger of carrying everything in isolationHow brotherhood accelerates healing and resilienceWhy purpose is often forged through suffering, not comfortHow to move from surviving life to living it intentionallyJoin The Unbeatable Leader Challenge - January 13thThe Unbeatable Leader Challenge is back starting January 13th, this time we're making it FREE to join on this training. Kick off 2026 with a growth mindset to win the winner war, achieve front-sight focus, and build an unbeatable team in 2026. → https://www.unbeatableleader.comUnlock your full potential and lead with courage, clarity, and purpose—join The Unbeatable Tribe and become truly unbeatable in life and leadership.Join for free for 7 days: The Unbeatable Tribe → https://www.skool.com/unbeatable-mastery-tribe/aboutBUBS NATURALS - Use Code Unbeatable for 20% OFFI use BUBS Naturals daily for focus, recovery, and hydration—all built on a mission to honor a fallen Navy SEAL. Use code UNBEATABLE for 20% off any one time purchase or subscription at bubsnaturals.comCody Links:Website: https://www.lookhealth.com/, https://www.longshipmen.com/Book: https://a.co/d/2iDuYdy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/raven_cody7/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-lakevold-458b311b/?originalSubdomain=caX: https://x.com/CodyLakevoldMark Links: Website: https://markdivine.comThe Unbeatable Tribe: https://www.skool.com/unbeatable-mastery-tribe/aboutDivine Inspiration Newsletter: https://markdivine.com/newsletterYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@markdivineofficial/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/markdivineofficialLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdivine/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/markdivineofficial/Subscribe to https://www.youtube.com/@markdivineofficial for more inspiring conversations on leadership, growth, and impact.Rate and review the show to help us reach more listeners.Share your thoughts and takeaways in the comments!#MarkDivine #CodyLakefield #MensWork #MentalHealth #TraumaHealing #PreventativeHealth #Biomarkers #Brotherhood #PurposeDrivenLife #LeadershipDevelopment #Resilience #UnbeatableMind #LongShipTimestamps:00:00 Introduction to the Biomarkers, LookHealth, Longship Men00:38 Mark Divine's Leadership Challenge01:28 Welcome to the Mark Divine Show01:54 Introducing Cody Lakevold02:52 Cody's Health Ventures04:30 Challenges in Healthcare Access06:39 Cody's Personal Journey Begins12:38 Family Struggles and Personal Loss20:32 Coping with Family Tragedies40:31 Struggling with Nightmares and Suicidal Thoughts42:16 Turning to Alcohol for Relief43:41 Seeking Therapy and Finding Hope45:35 Discovering MDMA Therapy46:16 A Life-Changing MDMA Session53:04 Rebuilding Life and Relationships54:12 Creating Raven Lake Investments01:00:05 The Birth of Long Ship01:11:24 The Vision for Long Ship01:21:03 Conclusion and Future PlansSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Become Unbeatable!Join The Unbeatable Leader Challenge: https://unbeatableleader.com/products/two-day-opt-inIn this deeply honest conversation, Mark Divine sits down with entrepreneur, consciousness leader, and author Scott Britton to explore the missing link between success, fulfillment, and awakening.Scott shares his journey from building and selling a venture-backed tech company to Salesforce to confronting the inner emptiness that achievement alone could not solve. Together, they unpack the intersection of spiritual practice, discipline, identity, leadership, and purpose—and why true growth requires integration, not escape.This episode challenges the belief that spirituality means retreating from life, ambition, or responsibility. Instead, it reveals why awakening is meant to deepen your engagement with the world, sharpen your leadership, and align you with your true dharma.If you’re a founder, leader, high performer, or seeker who feels called to more—but doesn’t want to abandon excellence, discipline, or impact—this conversation will meet you exactly where you are.In this episode, you’ll discover:Why success without awareness leads to burnout and emptinessThe danger of using spirituality as an escape instead of an integrationHow achievement can become a path to awakening—not a distraction from itThe difference between ego-driven ambition and aligned purposeWhy warriors, leaders, and builders are needed more than everHow meditation, discipline, and embodiment support real spiritual growthWhy life itself is the practice—not retreats, substances, or titlesUnlock your full potential and lead with courage, clarity, and purpose—join The Unbeatable Tribe and become truly unbeatable in life and leadership.Join for free for 7 days: The Unbeatable Tribe → https://www.skool.com/unbeatable-mastery-tribe/aboutJoin The Unbeatable Leader Challenge: https://unbeatableleader.com/products/two-day-opt-inRob Links:Website: https://scottbritton.me/Book: https://a.co/d/1JT8D84LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jscottbritton/X: https://x.com/brittonSubstack: https://blog.scottbritton.me/Mark Links: Website: https://markdivine.comUnbeatable Leader Challenge: Join The Unbeatable Leader Challenge: https://unbeatableleader.com/products/two-day-opt-inThe Unbeatable Tribe: https://www.skool.com/unbeatable-mastery-tribe/aboutDivine Inspiration Newsletter: https://markdivine.com/newsletterSubscribe to https://www.youtube.com/@markdivineofficial for more inspiring conversations on leadership, growth, and impact.Rate and review the show to help us reach more listeners.Share your thoughts and takeaways in the comments!#MarkDivine #ScottBritton #ConsciousLeadership #SpiritualGrowth #HighPerformance #PurposeDrivenLife #Awakening #EntrepreneurMindset #SelfMastery #MentalToughness #ConsciousAccomplishment #LeadershipPodcastTimestamps:00:00 Introduction to Spiritual Practice00:53 Sponsor Message: Indeed02:15 Welcome to the Mark Divine Show02:53 Guest Introduction: Scott Britton04:29 Scott Britton's Entrepreneurial Journey09:49 Unbeatable Leader Challenge Announcement10:46 Scott's Spiritual Awakening14:19 Mark Divine's Psychedelic Experience17:43 Unbeatable Leader Challenge - Join Now23:44 The Power and Risks of Psychedelics34:51 Join The Unbeatable Tribe43:11 Exploring the Purpose of the Soul43:53 The Teacher Archetype and Personal Journey44:17 The Realization of Worthlessness and Awakening46:08 The Importance of Dharma and Karmic Duty48:06 The Warrior's Path and Spiritual Practice52:41 The Integration of Body, Mind, and Spirit01:05:52 The Role of Conscious Accomplishment01:16:45 The Future of Consciousness and Leadership01:20:27 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Most people think performance is about more reps, more data, more tech, or more intensity. But according to human performance educator Rob Wilson, the truth is far more uncomfortable: most elite performers don’t actually understand their own bodies, identities, or inner signals—and it’s costing them years of longevity, clarity, and resilience.In this powerful conversation, Mark Divine and Rob Wilson break down the real keys to performance longevity, emotional resilience, identity beyond your job title, and why self-awareness is the most underrated skill in elite sport, tactical teams, and everyday life.From breathwork, interoception, and spinal health… to transitions out of high-status careers… to the hidden dangers of burnout and tech dependency… this episode explores the deep work behind staying healthy, powerful, and fully human in a high-performance world.If you’re an athlete, coach, operator, or leader who wants to sustain excellence without breaking your body, mind, or identity—this conversation will shift how you train, lead, and live.In this episode, you’ll learn:1. Why high performers must become “problem seekers,” not just problem solvers2. How to become the observer of your own training instead of a consumer of metrics3. Why tech overload is weakening self-awareness and decision-making4. How breathwork and spinal health unlock long-term resilience5. Why identity collapse affects elite operators and athletes after transition6. How emotional intelligence amplifies performance and protects mental health7. What it really takes to prevent burnout and injury in high-stress environments8. Why ancient mind-body practices still outperform the newest fitness techJoin The Unbeatable Tribe on SkoolA leadership community for high performers who want to grow with purpose, courage, and accountability.https://www.skool.com/unbeatable-mastery-tribe/aboutSubscribe to Mark’s Leadership & Mental Toughness NewsletterWeekly insights to help you build elite resilience, discipline, and clarity.https://markdivine.com/newsletterRob Links:Website: https://www.wilsonhealthandperformance.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecheckenginelight/?hl=enLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-wilson-929b6a152Simplifaster.com: https://simplifaster.com/articles/author/robwilson/Mark Links: Website: https://markdivine.comThe Unbeatable Tribe: https://www.skool.com/unbeatable-mastery-tribe/aboutDivine Inspiration Newsletter: https://markdivine.com/newsletterYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@markdivineofficial/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/markdivineofficialLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdivine/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/markdivineofficial/Subscribe to https://www.youtube.com/@markdivineofficial for more inspiring conversations on leadership, growth, and impact.Rate and review the show to help us reach more listeners.Share your thoughts and takeaways in the comments!#MarkDivine #RobWilson #HumanPerformance #EliteTraining #PerformanceLongevity #MentalToughness #Breathwork #Interoception #IdentityShift #LeadershipDevelopment #SpecialOperations #PeakPerformance #MindBodyTraining #ResilienceBuilding #UnbeatableMindTimestamps00:00 Introduction and Current Focus00:26 Health Monitoring Technology Debate01:02 Welcome to the Mark Divine Show01:31 Rob Wilson's Background and Achievements02:52 Challenges of Transitioning from Military Life07:21 The Importance of Pre-Resilience Training13:04 The Role of Education in Strength and Conditioning21:48 Breath Control and Interoception34:02 Understanding Contextual Shifts in Health and Longevity34:39 Injury and Burnout in High-Performance Environments35:27 The Complex System of Human Stress Load36:48 Emotional and Mental Health in Elite Performers44:20 The Importance of Empathy and Emotional Regulation48:34 Meditation and Breath Work for Integrated Health55:18 Writing and Publishing Insights01:04:21 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Unlock your full potential and lead with courage, clarity, and purpose—join The Unbeatable Tribe and become truly unbeatable in life and leadership: https://www.skool.com/unbeatable-mastery-tribe/about?ref=1a923afc32cd46168547585c83eea4adMost people think they communicate well. Most people think they’re emotionally intelligent. But according to SEL expert Lori Woodley, mother of Shailene Woodley, we’re getting the most important human skill completely wrong.In this powerful conversation, Mark Divine sits with nationally recognized SEL leader and author Lori Woodley Langendorff to explore why emotional literacy is collapsing inside homes, schools, and workplaces—and how we can rebuild the skills that actually create resilient kids, stronger families, and healthier communities.From redefining accountability, to breaking the habit of taking everything personally, to shifting from blame to responsibility, Lori reveals the six SEL muscles that determine how we relate, communicate, and lead.This episode unpacks the real emotional crisis behind student behavior, teacher burnout, parental overwhelm, and the widening disconnect between generations.If you’re a parent, educator, leader, or someone who wants to build deeper connection and stronger relationships, this conversation will change the way you listen, respond, and lead.In this episode, you’ll learn:-Why emotional literacy is declining and how to rebuild it-Why “quit taking it personal” is the foundational SEL muscle-How reframing with “I statements” shifts you from victimhood to accountability-Why storytelling and vulnerability improve connection-How to model emotional intelligence at home and at work-How schools, parents, and leaders can restore resilience in the next generationGuest Links:Website: https://www.selmuscles.com/, https://www.allittakes.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/allittakesorg/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/allittakesorgMark Divine Links: Website: https://markdivine.comThe Unbeatable Tribe: https://www.skool.com/unbeatable-mastery-tribe/about?ref=1a923afc32cd46168547585c83eea4adNewsletter: https://markdivine.com/newsletterYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@markdivineofficial/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/markdivineofficialLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdivine/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/markdivineofficial/Subscribe to https://www.youtube.com/@markdivineofficial for more inspiring conversations on leadership, growth, and impact.Rate and review the show to help us reach more listeners.Share your thoughts and takeaways in the comments!#Leadership #Parenting #EmotionalIntelligence #SEL #LoriWoodley #MarkDivine #MentalToughness #EducationReform #Resilience #HumanConnectionSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.