Orange Business Radio

Episode 23: Orange Business Next-Gen and the value of the Graduate ProgramOur guest in this episode is Ricardo Laanen, who is one of the many "second generation employees" in Orange Business. We discuss what it is like to work in the same company as your dad, but more importantly about how the Orange Graduate Program has helped Ricardo to kickstart his career in Orange.Guest: Ricardo Laanen - Smart Industries | Orange Business | Orange Graduate ProgramRicardo's LinkedIn profileUseful information:Orange Graduate ProgramAbout the hosts:Frank de JongFrank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Francine Linzell"The best Industry Analyst Relations director on the internet." ~ her momLinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinelinzell/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Disclaimer:This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 22: Pi-cast! The Why Of PiIn episode #2 of this podcast, we spoke with Michael Deheneffe and we briefly talked about his fascination for the number Pi. We suggested we may need a dedicated episode about Pi and here it is! This episode my not be for the faint of heart, but if you would like to understand more about Pi and how someone can become so fascinated, this one is for you! Guest: Michael Deheneffe - Director Marketing & Innovation at Orange Business Services, Digital & DataLinkedin: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaeldeheneffe/Useful information:The Pi‑Search Page About the hosts:Frank de JongFrank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Francine Linzell"The best Industry Analyst Relations director on the internet." ~ her momLinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinelinzell/⁠⁠⁠⁠Disclaimer:This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 21: Landing In The Uncanny ValleyThis episode is recorded at Insights 2026, the yearly analyst event hosted by Orange Business. In this episode Francine shares with us a real-life experience on how AI can be used and how it made her feel uncomfortable. Together with Leslie Rosenberg, Research Vice President at IDC, we explore the uncanny valley of AI.Guests: Leslie Rosenberg, Research Vice President at IDC⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠About the hosts:Frank de JongFrank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Francine Linzell"The best Industry Analyst Relations director on the internet." ~ her momLinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinelinzell/⁠⁠⁠Disclaimer:This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 20: The Infinite Loop Of InsightsThis episode is recorded at Insights 2026, the yearly analyst event hosted by Orange Business. In this episode we discuss the value Analyst Relations brings to an organization, the role of AI in analyst relations and the subtle difference between a feedback loop and an echo chamber. Guests: Catherine Freiberg, Head of IAR⁠LinkedIn⁠Francine Linzell"The best Industry Analyst Relations director on the internet." ~ her momLinkedInAbout the hosts:Frank de JongFrank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Francine Linzell"The best Industry Analyst Relations director on the internet." ~ her momLinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinelinzell/⁠⁠Disclaimer:This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 19: Light, AI, Action!Ai is changing the game in movies, music and art. But what does that mean for creativity? Will all actors soon be out of a job? Is art created by Ai even art - and who's the boss of defining that? In this episode we discuss the future of AI in the entertainment industry from the perspective of the audience and the people in the industry. Guests: Alaeddine Hajjem, AI enthusiast, photographer and much more.LinkedInJohn Rinaldi, Actor, Singer, Voice Teacher/Coach, Piano Teacher.Johns websiteUseful links:Sienna Rose, the mysterious singerAI-generated art at SFO sparks backlash prompting artist to speak outAbout the hosts:Frank de JongFrank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠⁠⁠⁠Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠ Francine Linzell"The best Industry Analyst Relations director on the internet." ~ her momLinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinelinzell/⁠Disclaimer:This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 18: What if work would be good for your mental health?In this episode we talk with Petra Velzeboer about Digital Wellbeing, at work and at home. Petra is the author of two books on mental health and a Global Keynote and TEDx speaker. We discuss the impact of social media, AI and other digital tools on our daily lives and Petra provides valuable insights and some good tipsGuest: Petra Velzeboer, Global Keynote and TEDx speaker, author of Begin With You and Digital WellbeingUseful links:Petra's website with her books and lots moreDisrupting Wellbeing, Petra's own podcast.The offline-clubCenter For Humane TechnologyAbout the hosts:Frank de JongFrank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠⁠⁠Email: ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ Francine Linzell"The best Industry Analyst Relations director on the internet." ~ her momLinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/francinelinzell/Disclaimer:This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 17: Do we REALLY need all those datacenters?In this episode we talk with Vlad Galabov about the ever growing demand for data center capacity worldwide. We talk about the impact of AI on that demand and how the data center providers are trying to address environmental challenges.Guest: Vlad Galabov, Senior Director Enterprise Infrastructure Research at ⁠Omdia⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠About the hosts:Frank de JongFrank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠⁠Email: ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠ Kerem ArsalKerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sportscommentator. LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/⁠⁠Email: ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠Disclaimer:This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 16: Fiber To The Home is (finally) picking upIn this episode we talk with Stephen Wilson about how and why FttX (Fiber to the Premise) is finally becoming a big success for operators after being a promise for more than 20 years.We discuss how the technology works and what the pros (and some cons) are, compared to other (old and new) technologies.Guest: Stephen Wilson, senior principal analyst at OmdiaLinkedInAbout the hosts:Frank de JongFrank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠ Kerem ArsalKerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sportscommentator. LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/⁠Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠Disclaimer:This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 15: A (slightIy) deeper dive into QuantumIn this episode we talk with Dr. Andrew Shields about Quantum Technology, Quantum Computers and Quantum (Safe) Networks. We learn more about the current state of technology and what the future has in store for us.Guest: Andrew Shields, Vice President and General Manager of the Quantum Technology Division at Toshiba Europe LtdLinkedInLee Johnson, Business Development Manager at Toshiba Europe LtdLinkedInAbout the hosts:Frank de JongFrank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/Email: [email protected] Kerem ArsalKerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sportscommentator. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/Email: [email protected]:This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.

Episode 14: How to successfully transform an enterprise into a digital native enterprise.This episode is recorded at #Insights2025, the yearly analyst event of Orange Business. Our guests are Hriday Ravindranath, CDIO at Orange Business and Emma Buckland, Principal Analyst at STL partnersIn this episode we discuss what it takes to transform an enterprise from legacy to a digital company. Hriday describes how building a completely new IT stack will help organizations provide next-generation-products to their customers.Emma explains what she see happening in the market and how this transformation not only is technical but also has a large impact on how people need to be educated and that it requires a fundamental change in the way we look at work.Guests: Hriday Ravindranath, Chief Digital and Information Officer at Orange BusinessLinkedInEmma Buckland, Principal Analyst - Telco Cloud & Networks at STL PartnersLinkedInAbout the hosts:Frank de JongFrank has over 30 years of experience in the world of telecommunications and IT. Having held several roles at several different telecom operators and technology companies, he now works as Program Director and Tech Evangelist at Orange Business. In his spare time, Frank flies planes, does nerdy stuff and even recently started learning woodworking and furniture restoration.LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/fjdejong/⁠Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠ Kerem ArsalKerem has spent nearly 20 years in telecoms and IT as an analyst, consultant, and strategist at multiple companies, including several years at British Telecom most recently.Now, he covers networks and edge computing at Omdia, a part of Informa plc. Kerem holds a PhD in Information Systems from Boston University, but he is also a failed rock singer, an ex-music journalist, and a defunct live sportscommentator. LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerem-arsal-phd/⁠Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠Disclaimer:This podcast is provided as-is and for informational purposes only. The opinions voiced by the hosts and their guests do not necessarily represent the opinions and beliefs of their respective employers or Orange Business, the sponsor of this podcast.Being passionately curious also means that the hosts will sometimes ask provocative questions to get “a peek behind the curtains”. Whilst we do the utmost to thoroughly research the topics we are discussing, we may be working with incomplete information at times. If you feel we have been making false statements, feel free to reach out to us, so we can all learn from it.