My guest is Alan McDougall, whose latest book, Dreams and Songs to Sing, is a people's history of Liverpool FC. We discuss the club's role in the city and abroad, Liverpool's identity, and how the club's success has often been at odds with the city's fortunes. Visit Outside Write on Substack for more groundhopping and football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, Instagram, and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football  

I am joined for a second time by Christopher Evans, author of Los Leones, the definitive biography in English of Athletic Club de Bilbao, to discuss the incredible story of several Basque refugee children who came to Britain to escape the Spanish Civil War and ended up becoming prominent footballers. This is the post I referenced in the interview about the Clapton Community Football Club International Brigades away shirt.  The second part of the podcast is a talk I gave recently on the history of football against fascism for Brigata Ultra Clapton and the Associazione Nazionale Partigiani d'Italia (ANPI - the National Italian Partisans' Association) Visit Outside Write on Substack for more groundhopping and football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, Instagram, and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football

My guest is Rory Bryce from the Football Heritage website and podcast. We're looking at how clubs and nations are, or should, celebrate their football history. Visit Outside Write on Substack for more groundhopping and football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, Instagram, and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football  

My guest is Dr Pavel Brunssen from the University of Heidelberg in Germany. His new book explores four European clubs with a Jewish connection: Ajax, Bayern München, FK Austria Wien and Tottenham Hotspur. How did these identities come about, and why are they often problematic? Visit Outside Write on Substack for more groundhopping and football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, Instagram, and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football

Latin Americanist, Dr Pete Watson from the University of Leeds in England, joins me for a record fifth appearance to discuss the cultural significance of Diego Armando Maradona ahead of the fifth anniversary of his passing later this year. Visit Outside Write on Substack for more groundhopping and football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football  

My guest is Eli Mengem from the YouTube channel, Copa90. We discuss his career highlights, such as the Copa Libertadores final that never was between Boca and River, and 'Once in a Lifetime' about Argentina's 2022 World Cup win. We also discuss his favourite groundhopping experiences and where he'd like to go but hasn't yet... Visit Outside Write on Substack for more groundhopping and football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football

My guest is Shafik Meghji, author of Small Earthquakes, in which he explores British involvement and legacy in South America. The most prominent legacy is probably football, so we look at the pioneers in Argentina, Uruguay, Chile and beyond. Other podcasts we mention in this podcast include: Everton in England and Chile The Kentish Roots of Newell's Old Boys The Roots of Argentine Football Argentina v England at Mexico '86 Visit Outside Write on Substack for more groundhopping and football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football  

My guest is Shafik Meghji, author of Small Earthquakes, in which he explores British involvement and legacy in South America. The most prominent legacy is probably football, so we look at the pioneers in Argentina, Uruguay, Chile and beyond. Other podcasts we mention in this podcast include: Everton in England and Chile The Kentish Roots of Newell's Old Boys The Roots of Argentine Football Argentina v England at Mexico '86 Visit Outside Write on Substack for more groundhopping and football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and X Check out Chris Lee’s three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football  

My guest is Will Dalton, author of 'Oh, San Lorenzo', a new book all about San Lorenzo de Almagro, one of Argentina's traditional 'Big Five'. Visit Outside Write on Substack for more groundhopping and football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football  

Tim Vickery is the leading English-language expert on Brazilian football. Tim joins me to discuss the current state of football in Brazil. We discuss a broad range of topics on contemporary Brazilian football, including the gentrification of the sport, the legacy of the 2014 World Cup, and the state of the national side. Visit Outside Write on Substack for more groundhopping and football history. Follow Outside Write on social media, on Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and X Check out Chris Lee's three books: ·      Origin Stories: The Pioneers Who Took Football to the World ·      The Defiant: A History of Football Against Fascism ·      Shades of Green: A Journey into Irish Football